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[obsidian76]

You've proved why stopping these nuclear programs early is so crucial .... Don't repeat this canard, please. Iraq's arsenal came almost entirely from the USSR and France, and its chemical weapons plant was built by Germany.

All I have proved is that hindsight is a great thing.

As for the Canard, I specifically said 'both Super Powers' because while the USSR supplied much of the hardware, the US and the UK were deeply involved in supplying Iraqs military in its war against Iran, and after. I guess you have not heard of the 'super gun' scandal and other clandestine transfers of weapons and technology to Iraq by the UK during the 1980s? No way would US approval not have been sought by the UK.

And still, we saw "armed to the teeth" with those low-grade weapons meant that the average US soldier fighting in the Iraq War was statistically safer in combat than he was walking the streets of an urban center like Chicago.....

Perhaps I should have been clearer, "armed to the teeth" was in reference to the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s.

By the time of the Invasion of Kuwait and the subsequent Gulf War on 1990/91 its military while numerous was clearly inferior.

I was at secondary school in a garrison town at the time of the 1st Gulf War, the town had the biggest ordnance depot in Europe (at that time) on its doorstep (across the road from where I lived), the USAFE 20th Tactical Fighter Wing based at RAF Upper Heyford 10 minutes down the road. RAF Greenham Common, Croughton and Brize Norton all within an hour's drive. F111s were a common sight in our skies during the 1980s and early 90s.

My school mates family members fought in the 1st Gulf War in 1990/91, it dominated the community. I worked with veterans of that War a few years later in a food factory where they would tell us of their experience in the Gulf.

I do know the US military killed 9 of the 47 British Troops KIA in Desert Storm.

I dont know what the relevance of the conditions for US troops in the 2003 Iraq War is as I did not mention that war?

 

[Endymio]

As for the Canard, I specifically said 'both Super Powers' because while the USSR supplied much of the hardware, the US and the UK were deeply involved in supplying Iraqs military in its war against Iran, and after.

Wrong again! None of Iraq's heavy weapons came from the US during that war. Their air force was Su-7, Su-20, and Mig-23 and Mig-21 fighters, and a handful of French Mirages' their bombers were Tu-16 and Tu-22s; their missiles were Chinese Silkworm, Soviet AS-3/4s, and French Exocets' and their tanks were all Soviet T-72s, T-62s, T-55s, and some Chinese Type 69s.

All the US supplied during that war was -- well after the war began -- some intel and tactical advice to Iraq.

I guess you have not heard of the 'super gun' scandal

I'm well familiar with Dr. Bull's work. However, the US government was far from involved in the project he attempted for Iraq.

 

[obsidian76]

Wrong again! None of Iraq's heavy weapons came from the US during that war. Their air force was Su-7, Su-20, and Mig-23 and Mig-21 fighters, and a handful of French Mirages' their bombers were Tu-16 and Tu-22s; their missiles were Chinese Silkworm, Soviet AS-3/4s, and French Exocets' and their tanks were all Soviet T-72s, T-62s, T-55s, and some Chinese Type 69s.

All the US supplied during that war was -- well after the war began -- some intel and tactical advice to Iraq.


I'm well familiar with Dr. Bull's work. However, the US government was far from involved in the project he attempted for Iraq.

Okay your right,

I'm wrong.

Its easier to lie to you than engage further with your ahistorical nonsense.

Cheerio.

 

[wizardB]

France would disagree, it controls Europe's only independent nuclear deterrent, I'm discounting our Trident 2's as they are leased from the Yanks and no one here in blighty believes the government line / myth that it's independent from Gile... sorry the US.

As for the topic, is it any wonder countries want to end dependence on US tech in the current climate?

Knowing the French they'll screw that up too.

 

[HyperPete]

Hey admin,
Please clean up all of the political and war-related bullshit in this thread. It has nothing to do with the topic.
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