A pricing and availability update on the Radeon RX 6600 XT and how the GPU market is shaping...

Irata

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NVIDIA was still selling their FE cards at or very close to MSRP so no NVIDIA wasn't doing that for their 3000 series. These cards aren't directly from AMD so the promotional price might not be the same as the Vega launch when AMD admitted to paying vendors to sell at the advertised price AMD also didn't use the term MSRP for the Vega launch, either.
How large was the number of FE cards produced ? Never saw any offered in my market after launch day.
 

Mjswooosh

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The GPU market product scarcity is just depressing at this point. And there's a special place in hell for scalpers.

I typically upgrade to the new midrange every 1-2 years but now I just feel fortunate to have a RTX 2060FE. I guess the upside is I don't feel like there's a lot of games that make me feel the need to upgrade.
 

Mjswooosh

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How large was the number of FE cards produced ? Never saw any offered in my market after launch day.

It can't be many as in the states Best Buy is the exclusive seller of FEs. Each model is only offered sporadically every 2-3 weeks at best at random times & go out of stock within a couple minutes. In other words, they are essentially impossible to get unless you have time to stalk BB. Ive pretty much given up & will stick with my 2060FE until the 4000 series drops in late 2022.
 

Irata

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It can't be many as in the states Best Buy is the exclusive seller of FEs. Each model is only offered sporadically every 2-3 weeks at best at random times & go out of stock within a couple minutes. In other words, they are essentially impossible to get unless you have time to stalk BB. Ive pretty much given up & will stick with my 2060FE until the 4000 series drops in late 2022.
Here Notebooksbilliger sells them afaik, but did not see any after launch. That‘s a shame since the 3060Ti FE really caught my attention (even tried to and failed to get one at launch).

For my purposes it‘s the ideal price / performance combination and while it does not matter much I also prefer its look to various AIB models.
 

Alfatawi Mendel

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1) RTX3600/3600Ti are 57% more expensive for up to 30% performance gain.
2) RX6600xt is available to buy at near MRSP almost everywhere
3) RX6600xt has a clear performance advantage over the $1100aus RTX3600
4) 80% of gaming is enjoyed at 1080/FHD
5) Raytracing and DLSS only works on a very small percentage of games.

AND YET..."To get a much stronger recommendation, the RX 6600 XT needs to be priced at no more than $300 MSRP, ideally slightly lower, and then with the current ~20% price inflation, an actual retail price of $360 would be easier to digest. The GPU would offer greater value card in its own right, and much better than highly inflated competitors, but as it stands right now, it simply doesn’t feel like it's the winner AMD was hoping for."
Yeah. Gotcha Tim....
 

NightAntilli

Posts: 787   +994
1) RTX3600/3600Ti are 57% more expensive for up to 30% performance gain.
2) RX6600xt is available to buy at near MRSP almost everywhere
3) RX6600xt has a clear performance advantage over the $1100aus RTX3600
4) 80% of gaming is enjoyed at 1080/FHD
5) Raytracing and DLSS only works on a very small percentage of games.

AND YET..."To get a much stronger recommendation, the RX 6600 XT needs to be priced at no more than $300 MSRP, ideally slightly lower, and then with the current ~20% price inflation, an actual retail price of $360 would be easier to digest. The GPU would offer greater value card in its own right, and much better than highly inflated competitors, but as it stands right now, it simply doesn’t feel like it's the winner AMD was hoping for."
Yeah. Gotcha Tim....
I fully agree. Generally, people are more critical of AMD than they are of nVidia. The confirmation bias is too strong among the masses.
 

Irata

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I fully agree. Generally, people are more critical of AMD than they are of nVidia. The confirmation bias is too strong among the masses.
Well, in terms of GPU it still feels that AMD need to prove themselves. They have not been on top for a long time.

Sadly, if AMD has features where it does better than the competition, they are often overlooked. There was no testing with SAM / resizable bar, performance on lower tier CPU where the hardware scheduler matters was not looked at…
 

BadThad

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You're right: I would never be in business just to maximize profits for my share holders: that's how we've got mass spread oppression and suffering, not to mention catastrophic and at least confirmed to be partially-irreversible climate change: CEO Mentality of "Lying is ok if it brings money in, not just some money, ALL of the money"

You cannot make a strict business point of view to me because I fundamentally disagree with how Western Societies work.

Let me get this straight. You'd run a business at a loss? Why do you think ANY company is in business?

Capitalism is by FAR the best system on the earth. It promotes producing products consumers want, need and desire. Additionally, it provides MILLIONS of jobs to people and PROFIT motivates companies to innovate and produce better products.
 

mgilbert

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I tend to favor AMD, but at the MSRP of $379, the 6600 XT makes no sense, when the Nvidia 3060 Ti is about 20% faster and has usable ray tracing for only $20 more. Both cards are obscenely overpriced to start with, but with the 3060 Ti at $399, the 6600 XT should be closer to $300. Actually, both cards should be $100 less than those prices.
 

Irata

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I tend to favor AMD, but at the MSRP of $379, the 6600 XT makes no sense, when the Nvidia 3060 Ti is about 20% faster and has usable ray tracing for only $20 more. Both cards are obscenely overpriced to start with, but with the 3060 Ti at $399, the 6600 XT should be closer to $300. Actually, both cards should be $100 less than those prices.
Where do you get the 3060Ti for $399 or a 3060 for $329 ?

I totally agree that if the 3060Ti were available at msrp, the 6600 XT would not be worth a consideration. But it‘s not. So comparing products based on unicorn prices is *****ic.

In my market, a 6600XT is even cheaper than a new 2060 and costs €130 less than a 3060 and €180 less than a 3060 Ti.

(all Mindfactory prices)
 

mgilbert

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Where do you get the 3060Ti for $399 or a 3060 for $329 ?

I totally agree that if the 3060Ti were available at msrp, the 6600 XT would not be worth a consideration. But it‘s not. So comparing products based on unicorn prices is *****ic.

In my market, a 6600XT is even cheaper than a new 2060 and costs €130 less than a 3060 and €180 less than a 3060 Ti.

(all Mindfactory prices)
I didn't mean to imply that you could get any card at MSRP right now. I was commenting from a theoretical standpoint - and for those of us who will never, ever pay more than MSRP, and will just wait until we can get a card at MSRP.