Agencies says Russia orchestrated recent government hacks to influence US election

By midian182 · 20 replies
Oct 10, 2016
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  1. Many of the recent high-profile cyberattacks directed at US government organizations have been blamed on Russia, but American agencies have reframed from publicly pointing the finger at the country – until now.

    A joint statement from the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence formally accuses the Russian government of being behind several hacks and subsequent leaks.

    The US Intelligence Community (USIC) says the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee email leaks were Russia’s way of influencing November’s US general election.

    “Such activity is not new to Moscow — the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities,” reads the statement.

    Also mentioned are the DCLeaks and WikiLeaks websites, where many of the stolen emails appeared. Romanian hacker persona Guccifer 2.0, who took credit for the DNC attack, is also referenced.

    The USIC notes that while the recent scans and probing of state election systems originated from servers operated by a Russian company, the activity has not been attributed to the country's government.

    As there are numerous protections in place and the voting machines aren’t connected to the internet, it would be extremely difficult for anyone, even nation-state actors, to hacking the systems and alter the ballot counts or election results, said the USIC.

    "This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place."

    What actions, if any, the US will take against Russia is unclear.

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  2. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,737   +3,757

    So when the election goes full Brexit they'll blame the Russians.

    This will be Bush v Gore all over again, but with unimaginable entertainment value.
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  3. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 3,342   +1,986

    Doubtful. According to the Electoral College numbers Hillary already has the election sewed up even if the possible defectors all go to Trump (which requires a tie on the 1st ballot, which cannot happen). What I don't honestly understand is why these debates are even happening; even if only for "appearances".

    The odds of a Russian hack and subsequent interference are not surprising, especially when you consider all the other provocative actions they are doing. They are pressing to see if the West has a backbone before they take up a much bigger challenge, ie: Cuba & Iran. Syria is already in the bag, the Philippine's are talking about going Soviet as is Turkey.

    If our leadership doesn't take a firm stance and back it up with firepower soon we will be in a situation like Europe was prior to the 1st World War. Firepower doesn't mean starting a war, but enough near misses and midnight "accidents" to the Soviets by a number of NATO participants will remind them we all mean business. The Soviets don't deal in reason, they deal in power and the only way to earn their respect is with raw power equal to or greater than their own.
  4. I can't pass gas without it being Russia's fault!
    It would stand to reason that it's Russia's fault that half of Trump's supporters are deplorable...right?

    So does that mean all those that are going to vote for trump are commies? You guys/gals see what kind of BS you're being feed?
  5. ManuelV

    ManuelV TS Booster Posts: 101   +42

    Yeah, Rusia will be scared to dead since they are like irak or afganistan in militar power.
  6. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,737   +3,757

    Yeah... like Gore had it all sewn up before he lost.

    Clinton will escalate with Russia exactly as you suggest. She has said as much. Russia will not play ball because they understand that we, the U.S., will be trounced in such a conflict because we are fighting too many enemies on that side of the planet and, when the opportunity arises, China, Iran, and Turkey will align against the United States. Meanwhile, sensing blood, ISIS will step up it's operations in the U.S. and Europe. It'll be a calamity. WWIII, as I've said in previous threads.
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  7. ManuelV

    ManuelV TS Booster Posts: 101   +42

    Why the usa always think to bomb something if they have a problem with someone?, maybe because the usa has to much militar power and since it is far from the action has never experience in his country how horrible the war is.

    You can't disagree with what I said, but just look how everything is "lets use our militar power 10,000 miles away from home to show them how strong we are"
  8. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,737   +3,757

    Fixed that for you.
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  9. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 2,105   +1,282

    Russia is able to take small, weak countries by proxy and make them puppets. Whether this be through rigging the election process, coup d'etat, or one of their many other tools. Lately though they have been doing this half-assed. Everyone knows Russia is the force behind the "rebels" in Ukraine. There's plenty of photographic proof. Not that you couldn't tell from the fact that the rebels are using advanced artillery and Russian tanks. It's not like a bunch of rebels suddenly just knew how to use this gear, it requires significant training.

    It's even more ironic that Russia defends the rebels in Ukraine, which started with blood, yet then bomb civilian workers (The White Hats) and crush what started as a peaceful protest in Syria.

    I don't believe direct confrontation will ever be authorized if another nuclear power is involved, not unless it's 100% certain the missiles can be shot down.
  10. ManuelV

    ManuelV TS Booster Posts: 101   +42

    I agree they are the one making the call, but if you look to many americans are promilitar attack, it is because of the militar power and how far they are of the horrors of the wars.
  11. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,073   +219

    The USA is no different. We even arm rebels\train rebels to fight against those who do not work with the USA.
  12. petert

    petert TS Addict Posts: 220   +63

    Just karma people. You deploy stuxnet and other cute stuff, you cannot complain when others are inviting themselves to the party.
  13. Kibaruk

    Kibaruk TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,286   +902

    Well maybe I read it wrong the whole way but they clearly did attribute it with the earlier paragraph. Unless they think anything passes by Putin.

    Also why would they care about the popular elections?? It's only important for muricans who think it's their god given right to vote in "freedom" land.
  14. ssimonds

    ssimonds TS Rookie

    as with any war, it affects both sides. yes, the USA is the global policeman it seems but the intention is to do what is right for the innocent parties and to promote peace and freedom. sometimes these lines can be blurred and in the case of hillary clinton, wars will be fought for poor reasons but the US has always had protection in mind while going to war. there is a reason why the world as a whole has lived in relative peace since world war 2.
  15. bluto 2050

    bluto 2050 TS Addict Posts: 270   +33

    Who in thier right mind would trust anthing out of the Dems or BHO admin. by now ?

    ..Setting aside Obama ,BHO admin.. corruption and lies ......The Clinton's have even surpassed the 1800's Democrat Boss Tweed's historic political corruption inflation adjusted for 2016 dollars ☺

    TBH I'm surprised the Clinton Foundation isn't into organ harvesting for elites ( or maybe Bill and Hillary are to far gone for that ? ) or are they ? .....and is all that another shoe about to drop ? ☺
  16. lazer

    lazer TS Booster Posts: 111   +26

    It is weird, they really have no concrete evidence that the Russian government was behind the hacks, but they 'feel' that they are.

    Sounds weird to me, to accuse someone (or government) based on no tangible evidence.
  17. Underdog

    Underdog TS Booster Posts: 58   +26

    Not so weird really. Just another opportunity to slag off Putin to try to gain popular support for the nastiness that is to come.
  18. bluto 2050

    bluto 2050 TS Addict Posts: 270   +33

    EXACTLY ,it's political distraction from the Wikileaks emails that arent favorable to BHO,Clinton and their crimes and comrades .
  19. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,004   +2,532

    First off, the US did learn something from the 2nd Iraq war, "Desert Bullsh!t Excursion Tour", or whatever it was called. That was, "the sociopathic dictator you know, is a far better option that dozens of fanatical religious factions who can't get along with anybody, or even each other, that you don't". In addition to that, they want the world clock turned back to 711AD, when the Moslems (*) invaded Iberia to spread more ridiculous, absurd, religious dogma.

    So, when asked if the US was going to arm the rebels against Assad, we said, "let us think about it for a few months". We still haven't given an answer. Well, as I mentioned earlier, "the dictator you know, is preferable to having to vet the Muslim hoards you don't". You never quite know what their end game will be. More than likely, it might be, "blow off the hand that arms you, with roadside bombs.

    So, doing nothing over the there, is a "positive action", based on the principal of, "kill them all and let Allah sort it out".

    This is where the Russian air force comes in, killing rebels and civilians alike, from the comfort of the cockpits of their latest attack aircraft. (y)

    So the upside, we don't have to wonder if we've befriended and armed future enemies.
    Nor do we have to burn up more of our pricey munitions, we can let the Russians expend theirs for a change.

    We've seen "null outcomes" before. After all, just look at the religious sectarian crap and infighting still going on in Iraq today.

    To the downside, we have given Putin an opportunity to flex his military muscle on the world stage. And the World is well aware of his deep desire and intentions, to reassemble "the Soviet Union".

    However, there is an upside to this, and that is, he's making himself, his country, and his intentions look bad on the world stage as well. It's almost like we "punked him", by allowing him to demonstrate what just "comes naturally" to him.

    Those things said, it's a given that you have to expend ordinance in actual combat situations, to fully determine if it is indeed, "battle ready". We've managed to provide the Russian military with that golden opportunity.

    The irony here is, that nitwit Obama recently entered into a, "strategic arms limitations treaty" with Russia, and now the dumb SOB is sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, proclaiming Putin and his military, "guilty of war crimes".

    (*) Yeah that's right "Moslems". We didn't have the term, "Muslim" forced onto us, until the Black Panthers or/and other black extremist groups feelings got hurt about "Moslem". Thus we had the latter term pretty much forced upon us via domestic terrorism. Kidz, this actually happened in the late 1960's. I was there.

    Keep in mind the term "Moslem" was in our school books as late as 1960.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2016
  20. bluto 2050

    bluto 2050 TS Addict Posts: 270   +33

    BHO and Clinton are abject failures and hopefully she goes to jail and not the white house... OTOH tRump was my 17th GOP choice but Clinton would be worse IMO .☺
  21. bluto 2050

    bluto 2050 TS Addict Posts: 270   +33


    "When Baby Boomers were children it was Moslem. The American Heritage Dictionary (1992) noted,"Moslem is the form predominantly preferred in journalism and popular usage. Muslim is preferred by scholars and by English-speaking adherents of Islam." - ---

    (and the new Black Panthers and Muslim brotherhood and Obama and ..............

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