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NeoMorpheus

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Took me enough patience, but got a RX 6900XT at MSRP and a R5 5600X.

Need to make a couple of decisions about case and mobo/mem, etc, but glad to finally be able to start it!

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Tyrchlis

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I know the feeling of victory snagging a 3090 for MSRP, so I totally get how ya feel. One of my friend snagged a 6900XT, but I think she paid a bit more than MSRP for hers.

It's a little surprising how much more often I see somebody with a 3090 or 6900XT now a days than really any of the lower end cards. I actually know a few people who snagged a top end card relatively inexpensively if not outright MSRP.
 

Glenn Haggerty

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I have a RTX 3080on it's way in the mail. I had a 3070 from cybertron and it died, so for a little over $300 I'm getting the upgrade. And I am getting a upgrade from my ryzen 3600 to (paid full price for) the 5600X myself. Also spent a small fortune on a 2tb wd gen-4 and a an aorus 1tb gen-4 nvme. This past year I've been upgrading my upgrades and can't seem to stop myself. It's almost like I need a 12 step program for gamers gear. I gone through 3 mobo's this past year alone.
 

NeoMorpheus

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I really wonder why everyone seems to repeat the same thing “I want/got a rtx30xx” and nobody mentions AMD gpus.

anyways, really happy to be able to ditch my old intel/nvidia combo, even though they served me well for over 7 years.
 

Glenn Haggerty

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I really wonder why everyone seems to repeat the same thing “I want/got a rtx30xx” and nobody mentions AMD gpus.

anyways, really happy to be able to ditch my old intel/nvidia combo, even though they served me well for over 7 years.
Years ago when I first started driving and buying cars it seemed that most people were either for Ford or GM. I was a GM guy myself, and speaking for my self looking back I'm not sure why. Yeah there were some clear cut differences, but alot of them were just money pits. I think from past sales training that I've received, that people often buy with their emotions (politics and religion) rather than clear cut facts. I don't think this is always the case and there are some people that are served well by doing their homework. Anyway for my self the first gpu that I bought was a $300 Voodoo Card that had more bugs than a seedy motel. So when I bought my next GPU it was a nvidia that was alot more compatible with my PC'S and I have been more biased toward ever since.
 

NeoMorpheus

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Years ago when I first started driving and buying cars it seemed that most people were either for Ford or GM. I was a GM guy myself, and speaking for my self looking back I'm not sure why. Yeah there were some clear cut differences, but alot of them were just money pits. I think from past sales training that I've received, that people often buy with their emotions (politics and religion) rather than clear cut facts. I don't think this is always the case and there are some people that are served well by doing their homework. Anyway for my self the first gpu that I bought was a $300 Voodoo Card that had more bugs than a seedy motel. So when I bought my next GPU it was a nvidia that was alot more compatible with my PC'S and I have been more biased toward ever since.
You bring up some good points.

dont get me wrong, my last 4 or so gpus were nvidia.

but as time progressed, I started observing how they kept doing more and more anticonsumer things, like disabling your nvidia gpu if it found an AMD installed in the same system or forcing you to create an account on their site just to get a local notification about drivers updates or their relentless push for tech that keeps you locked in.

At this point, I simply dont feel confortable in giving them any money, hence this.
 

Glenn Haggerty

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How are you liking your new gear? I see that we both went with the Ryzen 5600X. I'm really looking forward to getting my rig set up again. I'm supposed to get the GPU on Tuesday.
 

Tyrchlis

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My choice this generation was purely ray tracing driven. The only reason I didn't jump on Turing was it's first gen nature. I wanted ray tracing but not first gen ray tracing performance.

My next GPU in 3-4 years time could very well be AMD, or it could even be Intel. I've had plenty of AMD and even ATI GPUs in my past. This round I figured AMD would catch up on raster, but had an uphill road on ray tracing for the generation when I have money handy, and the only reason I was even giving up my 1080 Ti was for ray tracing.

I'm not particularly attached to any GPU brand. Whichever gives me the fastest performance in the feature of the day I'm after is the one I pitch my money to.
 

NeoMorpheus

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How are you liking your new gear? I see that we both went with the Ryzen 5600X. I'm really looking forward to getting my rig set up again. I'm supposed to get the GPU on Tuesday.
The truth is, I received the gpu just as I was leaving to the airport, so I was able to only take the photo.
 

NeoMorpheus

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My choice this generation was purely ray tracing driven. The only reason I didn't jump on Turing was it's first gen nature. I wanted ray tracing but not first gen ray tracing performance.

My next GPU in 3-4 years time could very well be AMD, or it could even be Intel. I've had plenty of AMD and even ATI GPUs in my past. This round I figured AMD would catch up on raster, but had an uphill road on ray tracing for the generation when I have money handy, and the only reason I was even giving up my 1080 Ti was for ray tracing.

I'm not particularly attached to any GPU brand. Whichever gives me the fastest performance in the feature of the day I'm after is the one I pitch my money to.
The way I see rt so far is as a gimmick.

that said, I simply have no good reasons to invest in it, since there are barely any games with it, that truly utilizes it, not the ones that only have fantastic static puddles.

the way hardware is, I think it will take a couple more gpu gens before the hit is acceptable.
 

Tyrchlis

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You can only call ray tracing a gimmick if you haven't experienced it versus not having it in games where it makes a beautiful difference. Games that I happen to play. Calling it a gimmick is like saying the grapes must be sour because they are too high to reach.

The number of games that have ray tracing or had ray tracing added is significant enough to warrant wanting the best GPU support for it if you have much clue about ray tracing itself, and have seen it in action. It's no gimmick.

It would be like calling tesselation a gimmick, or calling any of the rendering methods that have become gold standards over the years a gimmick. Whether you like it or not, it's here to stay. A gimmick was Nvidia 3D Vision BS with the silly glasses. Gimmicks are things that don't last. Don't hold your breath waiting for ray tracing to go away, is my advice...

Edit: Plus, I can assure you, I didn't spend 1500 bucks for a gimmick, I got the best performance for that feature that can be had in the industry, and that feature is present in most of the games I've played over the last 6 months. If I was into Blizzard games or esports stuff, the 6900XT's brutal raster would have made more sense, but I play next gen games, and a lot of them. I want the features working NOW, not 6 months from now.
 
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NeoMorpheus

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You can only call ray tracing a gimmick if you haven't experienced it versus not having it in games where it makes a beautiful difference. Games that I happen to play. Calling it a gimmick is like saying the grapes must be sour because they are too high to reach.

The number of games that have ray tracing or had ray tracing added is significant enough to warrant wanting the best GPU support for it if you have much clue about ray tracing itself, and have seen it in action. It's no gimmick.

It would be like calling tesselation a gimmick, or calling any of the rendering methods that have become gold standards over the years a gimmick. Whether you like it or not, it's here to stay. A gimmick was Nvidia 3D Vision BS with the silly glasses. Gimmicks are things that don't last. Don't hold your breath waiting for ray tracing to go away, is my advice...

Edit: Plus, I can assure you, I didn't spend 1500 bucks for a gimmick, I got the best performance for that feature that can be had in the industry, and that feature is present in most of the games I've played over the last 6 months. If I was into Blizzard games or esports stuff, the 6900XT's brutal raster would have made more sense, but I play next gen games, and a lot of them. I want the features working NOW, not 6 months from now.
Please read my comment again, because the answer to all of your justifications for RT are there.

TLDR: as of right now, it is a gimmick, since it doesn really bring anything worth besides eye candy on some circumstances and the hardware is not up to par yet.
 
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