AMD is chipping away at Intel's CPU market share

[Evernessince]

Just stating facts. No need to throw "u mis be AMD fanboy" card.

" AMD's new processor are already worth the money. "

is not a fact. They aren't even out yet so whether they provide value is completely up in the air. I say this as someone who's bought a 1700, 2700X, and 3700X. The 5800X is significantly more expensive than the 3700X and AMD isn't really giving customers any other choices for 8 core options at launch if they wish to upgrade. For $110 more, I expect significant performance increases across the board. Even if AMD manages a 20% performance increase, that would essentially mean that performance per dollar remains the same as the price increase is a bit over 20%. That's not good.

You assumed I was calling you a fanboy like you assumed my original arguement but I'm really calling out the fact that you clearly see the need to defend AMD when they are a company trying to maximize profits. Stop assuming, you've missed twice.

It's great what AMD has been able to do but that does not excuse any potential reduction in value if they increase the price of their products and I will not given them a pass simply because of what they have done in the past.

 

[Puiu]

I don't think that'll ever work in today's world. Back in the day they forced shops to convince buyers to go Intel. How do you do that on Amazon? It's a different era.

It's not a different era, it's the same as it has always been. You can be sure that Intel is doing shady stuff behind closed doors with OEMs, system builders and sellers (nobody wants to be cut off from the supply line or get much worse deals).

You can look at the laptop market right now and how no AMD laptop from the big OEMs has a better GPU than the RTX 2060 with the 4000 CPUs.

 

[Nobina]

Given how poorly Intel is doing right now that graph isn't that impressive for AMD IMO. I'm not sure raising Zen 3 prices was the right move for them. All they could be doing is opening the door for people to 2nd guess an AMD purchase.

AMD had better hope their new processors are worth the money.

Intels brand is still strong and I'm sure people out there are buying Intel CPUs exclusivlely. Logic, reason? Screw that, I'm buying Intel.

I still remember my last CPU from AMD - Athlon64, which caught fire after working for about 1 year. I never ever had an operational CPU catch fire before or after that. It gave up a very toxic smell, and died off. That's when myself and AMD parted ways.

I had Athlon64 3000+. One of the best CPUs I've owned.

 

[Achaios]

Smt to thing about:

Intel are LOSING on popularity amongst enthusiasts:

/r AMD: 672k members
/r Intel: 160k members

Chipzilla is slowly dying off. Good riddance.

 

[SirDigby]

I love that big jump in Q3 19 sales, Ryzen 3000 series was what they'd been building towards and ooooh boy did it pay off! If tech could be sexy, Ryzen 3000 would be "Enter.... a dame"

 

[SixTymes]

Does anyone know when DDR5 platforms and obviously the memory be released?

 

[Goat11]

This is FANTASTIC! Hats off to Lisa Su! AMD rocks and I am all for them to win a few rounds of blows with Intel. This is how we (consumers) benefit from healthy competition!
I am also glad that Intel is re-thinking their 4cores4ever business plan they insisted to follow for too long and maybe they will go back to innovate and lift the technology bar up.

Let us all hope that Intel will come with something really amazing in a couple of years (at least).

 

[HardReset]

Does anyone know when DDR5 platforms and obviously the memory be released?

AMD confirmed DDR5 platforms 2022.

Intel has only "confirmed" server platform 2021, that will probably be delayed.

 

[Rock Dirty]

I'm worried, that somehow, Intel will use Its standard monopolistic practises They used in 2000s, to f*ck up AMD again.

I worked at AMD during this time and have first-hand stories I could tell.

So yeah, be concerned.

 

[Gypsygib]

Still not seeing that many AMD laptops though.

 

[Gomos]

The duopoly is now fully established, but it's still a duopoly and it will only take you as far. That's why it doesn't make any sense when people are shocked about AMD's recent price bumps for Zen 3. Maybe just be happy that things are much better than 3 years ago, but stop expecting even more, this might be as far as a duopoly can take you. We really need a third player now...

 

[mbrowne5061]

Wow, so offering a good product at a reasonable price increases sales?

Who knew....

I mean, yeah. But lets not act like it is exactly easy to put out a good product at reasonable prices.

I know the favorite theory is Intel has been 'sitting on the good stuff' for nearly a decade because they didn't have to compete. If they were, don't you think they would have released it - or at least slashed their prices even further - in the last 3 years, if only to rain on AMD's parade? I think it is pretty clear that Intel found themselves in a technological deadend, but felt no need to backtrace their steps and take a different direction because they felt AMD would hit the same wall after several years. Obviously, Intel was mistaken.

Putting out capable and affordable products takes a lot of time, effort, and skill. Lisa Su should be commended for her management of AMD, even if Intel eventually gets their act together (though, I am not holding my breath).

 

[trieste1s]

While I want to see Intel suffer a lot of pain, I do hope they can offer good competition again in a few years. We need them to keep AMD from getting too arrogant. Already we are seeing AMD raising prices, nothing dramatic, but if Intel keeps failing to deliver and is stuck on 14nm AMD will feel pretty cocky and continue to raise prices.

So Intel can be arrogant for 10 years no problem, while their unscrupulous business tactics almost took AMD down, but if AMD tries getting arrogant for even 2 years we gotta shut them down?

 

[candle_86]

I don't think the two eras are comparable despite it being the same two contestants. The Athlons were great, but their performance per dollar advantage was often clinging on to extremely enthusiast-minded solutions, like pencil-line-overclocking and Via chipsets so unstable the PC would tip over if you coughed. The Ryzen era feels a lot more thorough and it looks like AMD has set up a long term plan a lot better this time around. Plus, developers are embracing the core overdose we're getting now. The thing AMD is banking on the most.
Intel will be back, I can't imagine anything else. They do have a lot more engineers, patents, industry connections and all that. But I don't see AMD falling behind again the way they did 15 years ago.

The early Athlon maybe, but Athlon XP had Nforce and via choosers got very stable from kt266a inwards, and Athlon 64 kicked them in the teeth. What screwed them up was the ATI buyout and issues with 65nm delaying Phenom, and then guessing wrong with the APU/FX generation.

 

[Bulllee]

The duopoly is now fully established, but it's still a duopoly and it will only take you as far. That's why it doesn't make any sense when people are shocked about AMD's recent price bumps for Zen 3. Maybe just be happy that things are much better than 3 years ago, but stop expecting even more, this might be as far as a duopoly can take you. We really need a third player now...

I'm no soothsayer but I foretell a star rising in the east...one day.

 

[deksman2]

I love that big jump in Q3 19 sales, Ryzen 3000 series was what they'd been building towards and ooooh boy did it pay off! If tech could be sexy, Ryzen 3000 would be "Enter.... a dame"

Yes, but bear in mind that we probably won't see major changes in market share until sometime next year (when Zen 3 is fully out and about).
Given Zen 3's uArch improvements which lead to large IPC gains (and minor clock increases), it will probably get more people into getting Zen 2 at lower prices... Zen 3 will also of course fly off the shelves most likely - especially for those who bought B450 mobos that had BIOS updates.

 

[amghwk]

Re: Article title :-

This, we already know since the dawn of Ryzen.

Of course, skeptics were waiting till the Ryzen was comparable to Intel's gaming performance for them.

And now, there's no place for skepticism anymore. Considering the value of AMDs constantly progressing ZENs.

I believe next year would be the year of the Ryzen 3.

As long as Zen 3's pricing is kept competitive, and maintain it's "best performance at best value" distinction, it will be good.

Edit: This is coming from a current i7 8700K owner. And yes, I'm upgrading to Ryzen 3 when I have my budget for it ready.

 

[msroadkill612]

I don't think that'll ever work in today's world. Back in the day they forced shops to convince buyers to go Intel. How do you do that on Amazon? It's a different era.

Hmmm... maybe ur right - there may have been a mental paradigm shift among the non technical who just bought the "vibe" of intel as an "easy/safe choice"

AMD's path to ascendancy has been a very newsworthy business story - a heads up to at least enquire about alternatives.

 

[msroadkill612]

I worked at AMD during this time and have first-hand stories I could tell.

So yeah, be concerned.

If u feel like that, I imagine it colors amd's thinking also.
They seem to beat intel by such a wide margin at various price points, that they are leaving space in reserve for such contingencies.

Its tough to come up w/ a plausible way to gimp amd when they have a 30% edge.