AMD Radeon RX 480 (Polaris) is coming: $199 for GTX 970-like performance

I watched the event live and I would sum it up as boring and awkward in my opinion.

Raja kicks off the event by talking vaguely about VR, then VR applications, then Vulkan, then back to VR, then games in general, PC gamers, back to VR, then finally Polaris. He talks a bit more about nothing really, 2.5x efficiency, bringing their premium cooler from their Fiji cards to the mainstream bla bla and then he finally announces the RX 480. He picks up the card from the table behind him and he holds it up followed by 10 or so seconds of dead silence. After he reveals the $199 price you are reminded there is an audience when they cheer and clap. It was quite weird. I don't know how else to decribe it. Some people in the chat weren't very impressed by the presentation. I couldn't disagree.

The performance numbers AMD had consisted of two ($200) 480's against a $700 GTX 1080. Clearly AMD used the Founders Edition as comparison to amaze us even though we won't see Polaris on shelves before $599 AIB 1080's would be readily available. The game they used was AoTS (no surprise there), beating the 1080 by 3fps for "$200" less. They also showed the Doom demo hyping Vulkan, but never giving any other comparison to any other cards including their own. And no single GPU numbers or comparisons. This all took about 15 minutes while Raja stuttered and paused numerous times throughout. I was glad when it was over.

Lisa Su comes on stage and talks about the AM4 platform, Summit Ridge everywhere bla bla...

Then came Zen. Mrs. Su showed a chip she said was Zen. She repeated what was on the slides we've all seen about the 40% improvement bla bla bla. I think she said something about it being in the early stages of something, but assured everyone that Zen was "really good". At least she didn't call it an "Overclockers Dream". She ended by giving the fans "one last view of Zen".

Oh yea, she did mention a $300 Polaris GPU, meaning Raja showed us the $200 version - I guess.

All said and done the whole presentation was quite boring and looked thrown together at the last minute to be honest. Maybe they should of delayed their party until after the presentation.

I cannot wait until the 29th for the full monty. I also can't wait to see what nVIDIA does with the GTX 1060 and GTX 1050. Anything could happen in 29 days.

*Edited for spelling

AMD may have used best case scenarios but so did Nvidia to an even larger extent. I guess it would have been more exciting if they had claimed 2.5x performance..........................................(in VR) like Nvidia had.

It honestly sounds like you had no genuine interest in it if you are inserting "blaa blaa blaa". I believe that's a mannerism, not actually what happened. What you really wanted to say was that AMD's presentation was more straightforward and not a bro-fest like Nvidia press events.


I, and I suspect many others, was under the impression the 1080 would be "twice the performance of Titan X for less TDP." After all, they kept chanting that tag line over, and over, and over...
 
I, and I suspect many others, was under the impression the 1080 would be "twice the performance of Titan X for less TDP." After all, they kept chanting that tag line over, and over, and over...
Nvidia NEVER said it was twice as fast as the Titan X.
They said it was faster then SLi 980's, which it is, and thats its faster then a Titan X, which it is.


The 1080 doubles the 980's performance which is amazing and anyone complaining or saying otherwise comes across as a whiny little fanboy b!tch.
 
Nvidia NEVER said it was twice as fast as the Titan X.
They said it was faster then SLi 980's, which it is, and thats its faster then a Titan X, which it is.


The 1080 doubles the 980's performance which is amazing and anyone complaining or saying otherwise comes across as a whiny little fanboy b!tch.

My $750 watercooled 980 Ti, and a house full of nVidia cards, makes me a whiny little fanboy *****? I didn't catch the entire presentation, but instead only the last 10-15 minutes, and the graphics/word usage used by nVidia suggested they were comparing it to the Titan X and not the 980, but hey... I'm a massive AMD fanboy.

EDIT:

And yes, they did say it was twice as fast, but apparently that's limited to VR.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...is-twice-as-fast-and-cheaper-than-the-titan-x
 
It's obvious that this place downplays everything AMD does well, and overrates everything that nVidia does well.

I think it's easy to become stuck in a certain mentality, after however many years of trends (I.e. poor AMD CPU performance, high AMD video card thermals) but I agree - it's the job of the journalist/reviewer to deliver the facts. Just because I was pleasantly surprised to see such low TDPs for AMD's latest cards (coincidentally, when I was perusing specs for the RX480) doesn't mean an employee of a tech website shouldn't be familiar with this before talking about the manufacturer, for example.
 
The bla's took the place of what we already knew as well as the parts related to Polaris and Zen I didn't watch the event for. As you can see, I wrote quite a lot and wanted to hit on what we hadn't already heard. You can always watch the presentation in its entirety on your own time and make any comment you want afterward.

Just make sure you're wide awake beforehand.

I'm not debating that the AMD presentation wasn't boring, it kinda was.

Jim made me wanna jump off a cliff. Slow motion train wreck.

Lisa should've done the entire thing herself, she's a great speaker.
 
I don't find anything awkward at all. If anything AMD's event are more straight forward, even the audience members seems more matured, while Nvidia's one was full of nosy people, specially that one girl constantly grasping over anything Nvidia says.

There's nothing better than showing a new consumer graphics card to a more matured crowd. That's for sure...

The girl in the audience at GTC was funny though. Admit it.

Jensen
-...the GTX 1080 for $599 MSRP

Girl
-OMG!
-WHAT!!
-WHAT!!!
-1080 WHAT?!
-I CAN AFFORD THAT!
-I CAN AFFORD THAT!!

Jensen
-But I have more.

Girl
-WHAT?!
-WHAT?!

Jensen
-GTX 1070

Girl
-WHAT!?!
-WHAT??!!
-10-7 WHAT?!!?
Do u think Nvidia paid her to say those things?

Of course. Same way that any post describing Microsoft's latest shady behavior brings out the astroturfers.
 
Ack, got that wrong. Here is the real link. (Would be nice to be able to edit posts.)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N84606755
 
Now I understand why nVidia launched GTX10xx series so hastily.It's about the worm and the early bird, because someone has to be insane to buy GTX 1080 at 479$(579 $FE) when you can get 2 RX 480X with 8 GB each at 2 x 229$ and have some change left. It's a known fact that AMD cards scale well in Crossfire so you'll have 11 TFLOPs of computing power and a massive array of over 4600 CGN cores and 16 GB of memory for the same price. So I'll bet 2x RX480X are better than GTX1080 even overclocked at max.Add in async compute capabilities and wait for some real DX12 games and the winner is obvious. Or better, do the math yourself and check if GTX1080 beats a crossfire setup of 2 R9 390. Also GTX 1070 is overkill for 1080 gamers so again the best available option is RX 480X at a lower price point(much lower).

If you seen Crossfire frame times and driver release notes you wouldn't have said any of that. Avg fps is only one piece of the multi-gpu puzzle.

I'll take lower scaling over stuttering and flickering any day of the week.
 
My $750 watercooled 980 Ti, and a house full of nVidia cards, makes me a whiny little fanboy *****? I didn't catch the entire presentation, but instead only the last 10-15 minutes, and the graphics/word usage used by nVidia suggested they were comparing it to the Titan X and not the 980, but hey... I'm a massive AMD fanboy.

EDIT:

And yes, they did say it was twice as fast, but apparently that's limited to VR.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...is-twice-as-fast-and-cheaper-than-the-titan-x

Epic damage control...
 
Looks like 1440p is now mainstream.

Don't count your chickens before your eggs hatch.

The price is very attractive, two of these could potentially churn out some serious numbers if scaling is good, they should easily beat the GTX 1070 for more or less the same amount of money. And thank god they brought the power requirements down, but with that kind of die reduction from what it's replacing you could only expect that. Too bad no HBM, guess AMD is saving that for Vega after all.

at this price bracket? huh?
the 1070 does not have HBM
of course it won't lol
 
The cheapest one is $824...
You don't think that might be because it comes bundled with a PSU?

Honestly, I really wonder at the mentality of some people. Why would anyone buy a card for $800-900 when the exact same item is available at list price direct from the manufacturers own online store. They offer worldwide shipping, 3 year warranty, and no third party RMA concerns. You'd have to be some special kind of stupid to opt for paying $100-200 over the odds.

EDIT: Some people are paying attention. In Stock is now Out of Stock. I knew I should have screencapped it.
 
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You don't think that might be because it comes bundled with a PSU?

Honestly, I really wonder at the mentality of some people. Why would anyone buy a card for $800-900 when the exact same item is available at list price direct from the manufacturers own online store. They offer worldwide shipping, 3 year warranty, and no third party RMA concerns. You'd have to be some special kind of stupid to opt for paying $100-200 over the odds.

EDIT: Some people are paying attention. In Stock is now Out of Stock. I knew I should have screencapped it.
That's my whole point they won't be in stock. You'll either have to stalk the Internet (most people don't have time for this,) or pay $800+. This is how things will be until supply can meet up with demand (economics 101.) Nvidia is notoriously bad about launch products with insufficient supply for long stretches. I predict September at the earliest the average Joe will find these cards anywhere near MSRP.
 
If your dumb enough to pay that much for these GPU's at launch then do it.
Wait awhile for all the cronies & a$$hats to get their GPU first for $900 so for 2 months they can spam forums with benchmarks to impress all these people they don't know.
After that prices will be normal and the superior aftermarket cooling solutions will be out; frankly I think the Founders Edition temps aren't all that impressive.
I'll wait and pickup a STRIX or Windforce 1070/80 down the road.
 
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