American public deems NSA's phone spying acceptable, says Pew study

By David Tom · 30 replies
Jun 11, 2013
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  1. For anyone following the recent events regarding the NSA’s surveillance program, the news have probably caused you to reflect upon your own beliefs. You might agree that the American government’s mass collection of telephone metadata is warranted, so long as...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,739   +3,707

    I'm not interested in a study. If you want to know what the masses think then put it to a vote. Until then keep lying to yourself with small time poll data.
    learninmypc, Mallok and psycros like this.
  3. bielius

    bielius TS Addict Posts: 214   +17

    This thing should be closed already.

    I call bs on this study, biased. All they want to do is to try to chill the raging citizens down, and then just let it be forgotten over time.
    hammer2085, m4a4 and psycros like this.
  4. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,671   +1,960

    A study set up by NSA, I'd wager...
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  5. dms96960

    dms96960 TS Addict Posts: 297   +59

    I certainly trust MSNBC's poll results.
  6. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    You know... I don't trust their study either, and knowing that they worship Obama over there at MSNBC, I looked up some polls on this topic back when it started when Bush was prez. I expected to find that fewer people were in favor back then, but according to Gallup, people were ok with it back when it started too. It is hard to compare though because back then they were only talking about calls overseas, not within the country like they're doing now.
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  7. George Carlin said "All Americans want is cellphones that make toast. " So those who are to keen to support these questions asked in these polls won't mind having the Government watch them and their spouses copulate,'s already happening.
  8. There is something truly smelly about the pew poll.
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  9. Not surprising since the people in this study most likely let the mainstream corporate media tell them what to think not how to think with news. It won't shock me if these people are more concern about professional sports and entertainment.
  10. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,877   +1,298

    Exactly. That's how the government steals your rights..slowly and quietly. If we have to become a godless police state to combat the evils produced by *theocratic* police states, then we've lost before we've started. And remember, its the client who usually comes up with the questions for a poll, NOT the research company. In this case that client is the most liberal news network in America. I usually answer telephone polls if I'm reasonably sure their not a scam, and every "current event" poll I've been solicited for was full of loaded questions. I've refused to complete most of them because of this.
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  11. BlueDrake

    BlueDrake TS Evangelist Posts: 378   +112

    We all know the news just tries to paint a pretty picture, to make the problems go away especially when they favor everything done. If anyone went on the attack against their "poll" it would be just brushed off, because they feel that their information is 100% credible. Most likely asked friends and general supporters for their feedback, then actually ask a huge pool of people overall.

    A) It's less actual leg work and B) It makes them look better in the long run, because it allows them to calm the public while supporting the government.

    We all know it's a public BS cover up to blind everyone, but I doubt any one huge news corporation is unbiased anymore.
  12. For those who aren't suckers for dodgy polls there is much better coverage of this poll on techdirt, unfortunately techspot's spam filter is rubbish so I can't post a link :/
  13. jackal2687

    jackal2687 TS Enthusiast Posts: 85   +12

    Those who trade liberty for security deserve neither.
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  14. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,285   +243

    And who are these americans who deem phone spying acceptable?

    a few years ago in Philippine politics:
    under the senate's probe on illegal surveillance and wiretapping, a sergeant in the philippine army's intelligence service of the armed forces of the Philippines (ISAFP) claimed of being able to wiretap then president arroyo's phone conversation with a commisioner of the Philippine commission on elections (comelec); this was known as the "hello garci scandal".
    the head of the ISAFP on the other hand said the AFP has no such wiretapping device.
    the defunct "24" u.s. tv series seems to glorify such illegal action.
    while I love the show, it will be an unfortunate event if illegal activities such us wiretapping not granted by a competent court and torture are used in real life.
  15. Ranger12

    Ranger12 TS Evangelist Posts: 621   +122

    MSNBC....LOL-that's all I have to say about that.

    Also if you looked at the poll questions you would notice that when asked how closely they followed the wiretapping story the majority of respondents said, "Not at all closely", the most distant answer available. So to say the general public is apathetic and uninformed is probably an understatement and that is where our real problem is...
  16. Darkshadoe

    Darkshadoe TS Guru Posts: 571   +113

    If people were OK with being spied on, why did the government keep it a secret?
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  17. ...once again power of media, manipulation, smearing, polls that are **** based (like Pew Research Center) is brainwashing public opinion. Be a slave to it. Well people you shall regret it soon when your children one day will ask you: "why did you do nothing back then" - because I was complacent with my life and didn't care a damn about privacy, liberty etc. Benjamin Franklin was right - anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither. And Snowden was right as well - what I fear most is that nothing will change... Why have we lost all intellectual capacities ?
  18. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,739   +3,707

    I'm more inclined to think the general public is being lied to, with the intentions of leading the masses into apathy. And the end result being an uninformed population standing behind a government by design. But hey this is just my opinion, who am I to say it's actually true or not.
  19. Here's how too many of these polls work.

    Q1: Do you think that some countries harbor terrorists?
    Q2: Are these terrorists a threat to the U.S.?
    Q3: Would you like the U.S. to prevent terrorist activity if possible?
    Q4: Are you OK with the U.S. monitoring phone calls to catch terrorists?

    A: Our study shows people are OK with monitoring of phones.

    Be careful when reading opinion poll results. Also many people may say X in an opinion poll but vote Y when it really counts.
  20. bexwhitt

    bexwhitt TS Guru Posts: 355   +73

    I personally thought they had been doing this for year.

    As a boring man with very little in the way of vice going on in my life, what have I personally to fear?
  21. bexwhitt

    bexwhitt TS Guru Posts: 355   +73

    I meant years, doh!
  22. The activities at Guantanamo, surveillance of their own citizens on an unprecedented scale....could go on and on......the fall of a once truly great nation.
  23. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    You're right, and they've already pulled it off in some places. Look at religion, it's pretty sacred in the US because religious freedom was a reason people left England in the first place. But what about education? Where did we get the idea that the govt would be better at deciding what school your child should attend than the parent of that child? You'd think picking your own school would be as easy as picking your own church, but it's not. Look up School Choice programs and you'll see tons of opposition. The difference? The govt is paying for schools, so they get a say in it. Well... we keep asking (and voting) for the govt to pay for more and more. Next they will be telling us what Dr we get to see, and what treatments we will receive.
    We're digging ourselves a hole, complaining about it, but won't put down the shovel.

    Because letting the terrorists know our strategies makes it easy to avoid them.
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  24. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,739   +3,707

    This is one time I completely agree with you.
  25. This study is important because it shows how messed up the public at large and their perceptions really are, I remember hearing about an awakening lol think everyone's fallen bk to sleep. these silly arsed governments need taken clean out of the picture by electing to not live in this way anymore, its corrupt in every way possible way this is just one example and people think its acceptable for them to spyed upon in the name of fighting terrorism, its is the terrorism and all governments are the terrorists its how the whole thing is structured it cant be any other way, and by letting it go on we may aswell be terrorists to all the starving in the world today, because as minipulated we are at least most of us at least know where our next meal is coming from, being spyed on kind of being left behind in that analogy. basically its all irrelevant in the end unless people understand what the real problems are and wake up and see thru all these fake boundries between us and the fake nonsense institutions that put them there in the 1st place. dont insult ppl with these stupid studies that only set limits on the topic and limits what responses people can give

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