Apple announces MacBook Air refresh, all-new US-made Mac Pro

By Jos ยท 26 replies
Jun 10, 2013
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  1. Apple announced an entirely new line of MacBook Airs at WWDC 2013. The company refreshed its skinny laptop with the latest and greatest from Intel -- namely, their new Haswell processor. Particularly, the refreshed laptops will use the ULT variants...

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  2. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +515

    US made? Isn't that code for "assembled in the US but parts made in china" or "parts made in US but assembled in china" or something like that? (so basically a deceiving label?)
    I forget which on it was...
  3. It will most likely be "Assembled in the U.S. Parts from China, Designed in California" Other companies are starting to do the same, like Lenovo in North Carolina.
  4. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    That new Mac Pro seems nice. It needed a refresh. iOS7 is amazing though :).
  5. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    Yeah, nearly as amazing as the price of the machines.
  6. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Well, Apple products are overpriced definitely. But OS X renders photos and video in CS6 much faster than Windows, so professionals like that.
  7. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +515

    I doubt that. With equivalent hardware, I'd say they are about the same (provided you don't use an OS biased renderer)
  8. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I remember reading a benchmark a year back that shows the Retina MBP demolishing a gaming laptop in Photoshop performance, I cannot find it though. When I do, I will post it.
  9. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +515

  10. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    That was not the benchmark I wanted to show. It is not a fair battle. A 670M vs a 650M... that is why I removed it. I am still looking for the past benchmark in which apples to apples were compared (650M vs 650M), not apples to oranges (which was done in that link I first provided).
  11. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,336   +843

    The best benchmark would be to take a PC and install Windows and Hackintosh, then you can compare.
  12. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    But the point is that you compare equivalent specs on Windows and on OS X and see which performs better.
  13. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,665   +1,949

    Quite disappointed about Macbook Air. I was looking forward to seeing a worthy upgrade for my Dec-2011 Macbook Air 13", but it didn't happen.

    What I was hoping for was to see the following:

    1. Better screen, to get one of these: 1600x1050, 1080P or retina. Instead, the screen was borrowed again from 2 or 3 generations from the past. Even when the last iMac came out half-year ago there were a number of improvements in the screen quality. How come we get nothing again for Macbook Air?

    2. Option to get 16GB of RAM. Didn't happen.

    3. Full support for Wi-Fi AC. Instead, we got cut-down 3-channel version of it. Why???!!!

    So, the SSD has been upgraded, Wi-Fi is better now, better battery life. That's all good, but none of these will offer a noticeable improvement in my day-to-day use to justify an upgrade.

    Other ultrabooks are coming out to offer a far better spec, like Sony's new Vaio Pro 13", which I'm now thinking of buying. It has pretty much the best 13'3" 1080P touch-screen display, the kind you just wouldn't want a better one.
  14. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +515

    The problem is that it is apples to "oranges" because of the apple tax. I don't care if OSX runs faster or not, you cannot find a Mac that will beat an equivalent PC for a similar price...
  15. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    LOL so true.
  16. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    They didnt even put in a 1080P webcam.
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  17. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Webcam? What is this blasphemy!! It's an innovative FaceTime camera!!

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  18. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Lol I know that naming garbage is so stupid. But the point was that they didnt even upgrade the webcam like people were saying they would.
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  19. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +515

    Heh, I just saw actual pictures for the mac pro. I guess they were going for the trash bin look...
  20. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I think it is a neat little idea. But seriously, what is so wrong with a tower (old Mac Pro)? That looks professional... The only reason people will buy the new one is because of the updated specs.
  21. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,665   +1,949

    Just out of curiosity I got in touch with our local Apple retailer who offered me an excellent trade-in on my Dec-2011 Macbook Air of 500 euro. This one is tough to resist, and I probably will do the swap for the latest now...
  22. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +515

    It seriously looks like a trash bin. And it looks inconvenient.
    Think about it, most desktops are meant for rectangular PC's (and would look better with one). This would either stick out like a sore thumb, or not fit well at all. But that might just be my opinion
  23. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,665   +1,949

    The new Mac Pro - take a break! ;)


    After all, Apple is for everyone...

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  24. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I was talking about the old Mac Pro being professional. There was nothing wrong with it.
  25. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,012   +2,536

    You forgot the part where the plant will only create about a half dozen American jobs, all of the work will be done by robots, who curiously don't have to file an income tax return.

    In any case, maybe Apple will bribe someone high up in the NSA to declare this turd, "weapons grade", like the G-4 was, and get a whole practically free theme for an ad campaign on the coattails of that declaration.

    Other than that, I visited "the beautiful product page", and came to this conclusion. This monstrosity looks like R2-d2's evil twin. Not only that, the picture of it with its insides spread out, looks like R2-D2's evil twin whipping open its raincoat and flashing its junk on a street corner .....
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