Apple responds to 'backdoor' services in iOS, claims they are for troubleshooting technical issues

By Shawn Knight ยท 22 replies
Jul 22, 2014
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  1. A number of news outlets (TechSpot included) ran a story yesterday in which security expert Jonathan Zdziarski claims to have found several backdoors in iOS that can be used by law enforcement and government agencies to potentially spy on citizens. The...

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  2. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I doubt it... Apple has to reject the claims even if they are actually true.
  3. You dont really think that Apple would acknowledge this right.

    Thats why I dont use Iphone or any Apple products. There systems are so closed that you cannot do anything.
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  4. What do you do on Android that you can't do on Apple?
  5. Greg S

    Greg S TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,075   +428

    GPS coordinate based settings (e.g. make your phone silent at your office), 16 megapixel camera with 4k video, widgets, use it as a universal remote control, customize OS menus, lock screen, and manually adjust processor speed to save battery life.
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  6. Heihachi1337

    Heihachi1337 TS Rookie Posts: 49   +11

    Apple's release statement is brought to you by the NSA "we know where you sleep".
    Move along, nothing to see here people. Ignore the invasion of your privacy.
  7. Heihachi1337

    Heihachi1337 TS Rookie Posts: 49   +11

    I'm predicting that there will be news about the Android OS having similar "dev tools" in the next couple of weeks.
    They considered one for the Windows Phone but realized nobody uses it. =P
  8. Baloney!
  9. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,741   +3,758

    In other words, all the things the average smartphone user either doesn't know about or doesn't use.

    Though, the exact same criticism applies to the iPhone.
  10. insect

    insect TS Evangelist Posts: 349   +132

    Because no one has ever accessed data without permission when the doors are there. /sarcasm

    Sometimes you just have to knock a little harder and doors open, to use a metaphor.
  11. lipe123

    lipe123 TS Evangelist Posts: 719   +236

    I don't even know why people bother with apple products and these issues.
    I thought its common knowledge that when you buy an Iphone you actually sell your soul for real.

    If it bothers you get an android device and load an after market stripped rom on it.
  12. Ok... so.. you didnt have a written agreement to do the spying.. it was all verbal.. so that you can deny it..
    either way.. why dont you call barak obama to veto and make it all lies..
  13. Don't tell me you believe that bigger numbers means better.
    Why do you think that cameras like the 8 MP one on the iPhone or the 4 MP one on the HTC One perform just as well (and often better in low-light setting) than the 15 to 20 MP cameras other Android phones use? Magic? Or do you think that 41 MP camera on the Lumia 1020 is better than a 18 MP Canon EOS?
    The quality of a camera doesn't depend on the ammount of pixels it produces, genius. It depends on many other factors, and one of them is the size of each light sensor. The ones used by Apple and HTC are significantly larger than the ones used by the common Android OEMs, and thus are better at capturing light and avoiding color noise.
    So no, buying a phone with a "16 megapixels" stamped on it doesn't guarantee a camera better than the iPhone's. It doesn't even guarantee a better camera than HTC's 4 MP one.
  14. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,037   +2,558

    The first time I ever saw a mobile phone in use, some guy I know's wife was calling to check up on him. I immediately dubbed cell phones, "electronic leashes", Fast forward a coupe of decades, and now it's the NSA yanking your chains, instead of the"old lady".

    Really, it's time to either throw the cell phones in the trash, and live autonomously, or change the species name to, "Homo Addictus", and quit your incessant whining about, "my privacy is being invaded". You asked for an electronic babysitter fool, and you got it, in spades.
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  15. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Evangelist Posts: 1,374   +69

    My android phone has a mind of it's own. I factory reset and without loading any new apps, some days it's in vibrator mode, some days it rings. Sometimes you hear touch tones when making calls sometimes not. Sometimes the sound is loud, sometimes soft. It seems to even turn itself on at times. Then, without having loaded any new apps, it needed another factory reset. WIth computers we knew about firewalls and viruses. With these things they are just black boxes, sort of like chips.
  16. 4k video is something your 8MP iphone can barely do, so the MP does count for something!
  17. Good, I had forgotten to make that second point.
    4K video is a meaningless measure. Not only because there is literally zero practical uses for 4K video, and it will remain like that for many years to come; but also because thinking video is better because of resolution is even more senseless than thinking that higher megapixel count makes a camera better.
    First of all, the same concept of sensor size and light sensitivy that affects quality of photos also affect quality of video. A higher-MP camera with small sensors does not produce better video than a lower-MP camera with large sensors.
    Second, video quality is (practically) independent of resolution. Instead, it's a consequence of the bitrate used to encode the video (as well as the sophistication of the codec itself, of course). Having a "4K" video made by a high-MP-count camera that already has lower light sensitivity, lower sharpness and more noise, and is then encoded to use reasonable space in the memory of a smartphone will NOT be any better than a 1080p video produced by a lower-MP-count camera with larger sensors, who will capture an overall better image and then require a lower bitrate to achieve the same level of quality, or keep the same bitrate and achieve a higher level of quality than a "4K" video would have. As is the case with the iPhones and the HTC One.
    In other words, being "4K" doesn't automatically make videos better. No smartphone camera today (Android or iPhone alike) is capable of making a proper, sharp 4K video. And even if they were, the ammount of storage those proper 4K videos would require would make it impractical to keep saving them on smartphone storage. But it sells, because "bigger numbers are better", right? A 16 MP camera is better than a 8 MP camera, even though the smaller sensors mean it doesn't actually capture a better images than the 8 MP one. Four or eight cores are better, even though the enormous majority of apps available for Android does not make use of that many cores. And don't forget the 1440p screens, which are obviously better than 1080p screens, despite no noticeable increase in image quality and the increased energy consumption. What matters is the bigger number.
  18. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,285   +243

    The security loopholes are called security features when present in apple devices. da**, I love apple spinners.
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  19. And you can transfer files via bluetooth
    like on every other phone. I require it so I switched to android and I'd NEVER switch back to iphone
    I have a Samsung galaxy ace3 its great
  20. I can't understand why so many American comment writers hate their homeland Apple and prefer South Korean Samsung. Don't you have a single note of patriotism in you, people? Instead of being super proud to live in the same country with such a great company as Apple, you all whine that it can't shoot 8K video under water, or bake cupcakes while giving you a shave. Shame on you! Next time you read about unemployment problems you have in the States, think about how happy South Koreans are with the jobs you created for them by buying Samsung phones. Yeah, yeah, it's all made in China anyway, I know, but I'm talking about high profile jobs that companies like Apple create, for educated people, not factory jobs that robots can replace. Consumers, huh... You'd consume yourself if you would have a good ad campaign.
  21. HaHa! my cell phone is a cheap $40 Samsung that makes txt and voice calls. Exactly what it's purpose was intended! That's what you get when you turn a cell phone into a mini computer, problems. Even with 1000 back doors, are you gonna give up your iPhone? Bet not. XD
  22. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,189   +471

    You shouldn't assume that most of the posters in this thread are from America. Most aren't.
  23. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,037   +2,558

    Oh goody, a racist troll, posting as a " concerned citizen of the world", wagging its finger at Americans, and questioning their, "patriotism".

    Apple has a shiny campus in Cupertino CA, and that's about as "American" as they get. The vast majority of their product is produced in China, and I've been led to believe part of their business is given tax shelter in Ireland.

    So, about as "American" as Apple gets, is to siphon off Americans money, to China, Ireland, and their executives pockets for overpriced goods.

    And really, don't wave my flag for me, it doesn't look good on you..

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