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AT&T is branding 4G networks and phones as 5G in a marketing scam

By mongeese · 15 replies
Dec 22, 2018
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  1. According to AT&T, a 5G E symbol means that the device is utilizing technologies that are stepping stones to true 5G. “5G Evolution (5G E) is our first step on the road to 5G,” says AT&T. “Our improvements are already enabling faster speeds on our existing LTE network.” True 5G will not be based on any “existing LTE network.”

    While AT&T hasn’t said so, it’s clear that 5G E is just a rebranding of what everyone else calls Gigabit LTE. Like Gigabit LTE, 5G E uses 256 QAM (256-bit Quadrature Amplitude Modulation) to squeeze an extra 30% more data into a signal by increasing efficiency. They also use LAA (Licensed Assisted Access) to jump between LTE and Wi-Fi bands depending on what’s got the least traffic.

    The real powerhouse though, 4x4 MIMO, is exclusive to flagships which explains why AT&T says 5G E will only be coming to a limited amount of Android devices. Traditional 4G networks use 2x2 MIMO technology that relies on connecting two device antennas to two antennas on the tower. 4x4 MIMO doubles the antenna count on both ends, potentially doubling the speed as well.

    Wireless carriers misleading consumers isn’t anything new. In fact, before true 4G networks were up and running, Sprint jumped the gun and started calling their WiMAX network 4G. AT&T and T-Mobile followed suit pretty quickly and began calling their HSPA+ networks 4G as well.

    This time, however, T-Mobile is claiming the moral high ground. T-Mobile Chief Technology Officer Neville Ray said criticized AT&T for being misleading in a blog post yesterday, where he said that AT&T's 5G network is all show and no substance. “They even have plans to show a 5G network indicator for LTE on consumers’ devices to hide the fact that actual 5G will be scarce, duping customers into thinking they’re getting something they’re not.”

    He was also quick to take a shot at T-Mobile’s other main competitor, Verizon. Verizon is currently attempting to establish a proprietary UWB (Ultra-Wide Band) version of 5G, which Ray says “should be short for UnderWhelming Bullshit because that’s exactly what it is.”

    Ironically, however, AT&T’s 5G E network is faster, cheaper and has better range than their actual 5G network which launched yesterday in a dozen cities. The bottom line is, whether you’re on 5G E or an actual 5G network, you’re getting scammed because Gigabit LTE is still cheaper and faster for now.

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  2. Will86c

    Will86c TS Member Posts: 16   +24

    This is what you get when you have a former telecom pettifogger running the FCC.
    Reehahs, psycros, Digitalzone and 4 others like this.
  3. petert

    petert TS Evangelist Posts: 359   +157

    And they are getting away with it cause it is America ...

    I remember when I commented some months ago about carriers actually capping the "unlimited data plans" there in US and some dipshit stepped in, defending them ... I wish I was making this up.
    Reehahs, psycros, Digitalzone and 3 others like this.
  4. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,979   +2,282

    Hurray for the common person, er, uh, carrier!
    mattsie likes this.
  5. Cycloid Torus

    Cycloid Torus Stone age computing - click on the rock below.. Posts: 4,062   +1,187

    And, if you will believe that one, let me tell you about our 9G network which dials the phone before you realize that you want to call someone and tells you what to say before you even think of it...in this era of autonomous cars why wouldn't you want an autonomous phone!
  6. Eldritch

    Eldritch TS Addict Posts: 128   +125

    That may take some time but in the meantime 9G E will charge you for those calls you are going to make in future.
    Cycloid Torus likes this.
  7. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 5,389   +3,776

    Soooooooo....where is the FCC on this one? Counting their dividends, no doubt .......
    psycros, Digitalzone and xxLCxx like this.
  8. EClyde

    EClyde TS Evangelist Posts: 1,832   +678

    Att is a modern liberal company
    p51d007 likes this.
  9. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,965   +1,230

    When at&t was rolling out 4G, it was really HSPA, or H+, but showed 4G on many phones.
    psycros and xxLCxx like this.
  10. xxLCxx

    xxLCxx TS Addict Posts: 231   +153

    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the evil Huawei had to be banned. ;-)
  11. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,891   +2,217

    Care to elaborate?
    xxLCxx likes this.
  12. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,237   +897

    I remember when the EVo 4G launched. People had to spend $10 extra whether they had access to 4G/LTE or not.

    Now, 4G is the norm and we are moving to 5G.

    Theaverage person isn't worried about the connection speed so long as basica data pushes and pulls. The real issue is building signal penetration. WiFi roaming isn't always helpful.
  13. EClyde

    EClyde TS Evangelist Posts: 1,832   +678

    Since you axed you know. Give it a rest
  14. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,891   +2,217

    Actually I don't know, the statement makes no sense. They don't participate in diversity initiatives, they don't lobby for social policy and overwhelmingly make campaign contributions to people who will take away consumer rights for corporate profits. It is overwhelmingly NOT a liberal company nor is it a conservative company so please elaborate on what you meant. I hate liberals as much as the next guy but statements like this makes us reasonable conservatives look like *****s.
    Knot Schure likes this.
  15. moon982

    moon982 TS Rookie Posts: 23

    You mean why big businesses control the republican and democratic party?
    xxLCxx likes this.
  16. xxLCxx

    xxLCxx TS Addict Posts: 231   +153

    It’s not even the “big businesses” themselves. It is a few people, who happen to control those big businesses as well.
    wiyosaya likes this.

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