Barcelona bus ran five years on fuel made from human waste

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WTF?! Human waste could one day usher in a new golden era of environmentally friendly infrastructure. Companies and researchers around the world are working to turn morning sludge into a legit source of renewable energy, and one particular venture in Spain is now eyeing a full-scale development of the technology.

Spanish researchers turned the V3 bus line in Barcelona into an experimental vehicle running on pure renewable natural gas. For five years, researchers at the city's water distribution company (Veolia) worked in partnership with the Barcelona public transport company (TMB) and the Autonomous University of Barcelona to fuel public transportation with biomethane from human sludge.

The researchers used the Baix Llobregat treatment plant, one of the largest industrial water purification plants in Europe, to develop a renewable fuel which emits 80 percent less carbon dioxide than natural gas. The plant is designed to process around 400,000 cubic meters of wastewater per day, with 95 percent of the water being "regenerated" and reused in agricultural and urban irrigation, groundwater replenishing, and more. It can even be used to produce drinking water during extreme droughts.

The human waste part is usually turned into dry material for agricultural uses, with 250 metric tons of this particular substance produced by the facility each day. Also known as "Nimbus," the Barcelona project turned 4 cubic meters of sludge per hour into tens of kilograms of biomethane, making enough fuel to run the V3 bus line for 100 kilometers every day.

Biomethane is a renewable fuel made by refining biogas to a methane concentration of 90 percent or higher. By removing CO2 and other impurities, the biomethane is pure enough to be delivered directly through existing gas pipelines or used in vehicles with natural gas-powered engines. According to Spanish researchers, biogas coming from human sludge contains 65 percent methane and 35 percent of carbon dioxide.

Veolia's process for producing biomethane doesn't involve a separation of the two gases, though. The researchers combine the CO2 with hydrogen, which comes from the treatment plant's water and renewable sources, to turn "nearly" all the biogas into biomethane. The fuel does not emit more CO2 than the amount it stores, but very small quantities of nitrogen oxides and fine particles are produced.

In any case, the biomethane used for the V3 bus route should be in line with the Euro VI emission standards imposed by EU regulations. The Nimbus project is focused on covering transportation needs in the outskirts of Barcelona city, where electric buses aren't efficient enough due to their lower passenger capacity and limited range.

After a successful five-year run, the Nimbus experiment is now going to "fuel" a new project named SEMPRE-BIO. The Spanish researchers will put what they have learned so far to good use, increasing biomethane production to 10 to 12 cubic meters per hour to feed an additional bus line. Eventually, they hope these limited pilot projects will grow to full-scale industrial initiatives for public transportation based on truly renewable sources. And nothing is quite as renewable as human waste.

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Gimmick. The world cannot be run on farts, whether unicorn or human.

Human civilization never, ever ran on just one form of energy. We always had biomass, fossil fuels, solar energy and other forms of energy.

Human waste and animal waste as fuel is an old concept. We should use any and everything we can.

But, I am 100% sure that the green agendas/ anti-global warming/ anti-climate change is never going to allow Methane as they consider it worse than CO2.
 
Gimmick. The world cannot be run on farts, whether unicorn or human.
Per the article, it has worked for 5 years, so by definition it is not a gimmick. All that waste will exist regardless if you use the methane too, so its not like new waste was invented for this to work.
Human civilization never, ever ran on just one form of energy. We always had biomass, fossil fuels, solar energy and other forms of energy.

Human waste and animal waste as fuel is an old concept. We should use any and everything we can.

But, I am 100% sure that the green agendas/ anti-global warming/ anti-climate change is never going to allow Methane as they consider it worse than CO2.
The greenies are being pushed back because there is some stuff that you just cant electrify easily. Heavy trucks being one of them. Airplanes and ships also come to mind.
 
But wait, methane was melting the ice caps yesterday, now you say it can be good for the planet?

Excuse me, I have some protest posters to update.
Methane gas IS bad for the environment. Said gas is being made by waste regardless. What is being done here is capturing the gas and using it as fuel, burning it off which significantly reduces its impact as opposed to simply venting it while replacing the use of oil as a fuel in these vehicles

People need to learn how to read articles…..
 
Per the article, it has worked for 5 years, so by definition it is not a gimmick. All that waste will exist regardless if you use the methane too, so its not like new waste was invented for this to work.
The greenies are being pushed back because there is some stuff that you just cant electrify easily. Heavy trucks being one of them. Airplanes and ships also come to mind.

gimmick​

noun
1. a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade

Meets the definition, time duration does not enter into it.
 
My landfills collects the methane emitted from the breakdown of garbage and burns it to make electricity. Powers the whole landfill and they sell off the extra to the power coop to help cover the costs of the counties waste management.
 
My landfills collects the methane emitted from the breakdown of garbage and burns it to make electricity. Powers the whole landfill and they sell off the extra to the power coop to help cover the costs of the counties waste management.
yup, it's a common practice now a days.

Fun fact: Myth Busters did make a poo powered rocket. It wasn't the main myth they were testing but Jamie wanted to try it.
 
The greenies are being pushed back because there is some stuff that you just cant electrify easily. Heavy trucks being one of them. Airplanes and ships also come to mind.
My first question was going to be where have you been.
Then I realized it was you and already know the answer. So relax, Y2K turns out to be a dud.




And the links are to sites with citations and\or sources.
 
Per the article, it has worked for 5 years, so by definition it is not a gimmick. All that waste will exist regardless if you use the methane too, so its not like new waste was invented for this to work.
The greenies are being pushed back because there is some stuff that you just cant electrify easily. Heavy trucks being one of them. Airplanes and ships also come to mind.

Actually truck do benefit from getting electrical.
More power, more torque, smoother ride, and according to a guy from Germany, that I follow on YT ( Channel name : Electric Trucker), he will save around 100'000 Euros per year on energy alone ( cost for electricity vs cost for gas). Not to mention easier maintenance which also make it cheaper.
 
Imagine paying for human waste one day. But I think on a smaller scale like for heating and cooking would be a good idea.
I saw the cooking version of this in villages in east Africa in the early 90s. Idea's been around a long time, get recycled for overly-complicated feel-good projects like this from time to time. This is one of many articles out there; this one gives some realistic applications, without all of the bespoke plumbing to use it:

 
My first question was going to be where have you been.
Then I realized it was you and already know the answer. So relax, Y2K turns out to be a dud.




And the links are to sites with citations and\or sources.
So we have:

1. an article about how trucks are getting "hundreds" of miles (lets just ignore how far most truckers can travel in a day) and doesnt address the major charging concerns.

2. Buzzfeed tier garbage full of qualifiers. "Here's how this COULD happen". I didnt think that someone would use this as a source for "the tech totally works", it's pontificating on "wellt his might happen, this could be the future, ece ece".

3. An electric boat that uses 50,000kW of electricity to travel between 2 cities that are a 3 hour car ride apart (as claimed by the famously accurate Chinese social media app WeChat). Totes the future of international shipping bro! Scaling? What's that?

I see why you brought up Y2K, only someone who first got on the internet 25 years ago could be so easily gaslit by this.

gimmick​

noun
1. a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or trade

Meets the definition, time duration does not enter into it.
By your use of the definition, any fuel powered vehicle falls under the definition of "gimmick".
 
So we have:

1. an article about how trucks are getting "hundreds" of miles (lets just ignore how far most truckers can travel in a day) and doesnt address the major charging concerns.

2. Buzzfeed tier garbage full of qualifiers. "Here's how this COULD happen". I didnt think that someone would use this as a source for "the tech totally works", it's pontificating on "wellt his might happen, this could be the future, ece ece".

3. An electric boat that uses 50,000kW of electricity to travel between 2 cities that are a 3 hour car ride apart (as claimed by the famously accurate Chinese social media app WeChat). Totes the future of international shipping bro! Scaling? What's that?

I see why you brought up Y2K, only someone who first got on the internet 25 years ago could be so easily gaslit by this.
By your use of the definition, any fuel powered vehicle falls under the definition of "gimmick".
Not "my" definition, and not true.

If you cannot tell the difference between a gimmick and a way of life, that's your issue.
 
1. an article about how trucks are getting "hundreds" of miles (lets just ignore how far most truckers can travel in a day) and doesnt address the major charging concerns.
Lord, I love talking with you brother. No, they are getting hundreds of miles PER CHARGE.

2. Buzzfeed tier garbage full of qualifiers. "Here's how this COULD happen". I didnt think that someone would use this as a source for "the tech totally works", it's pontificating on "wellt his might happen, this could be the future, ece ece".
What were you expecting? I listed that one on purpose because it points out it could still be a decade away. But it is happening now. But I get it, you would have had to read the thing to know stuff.

3. An electric boat that uses 50,000kW of electricity to travel between 2 cities that are a 3 hour car ride apart (as claimed by the famously accurate Chinese social media app WeChat). Totes the future of international shipping bro! Scaling? What's that?
No, it has 50,000 kWh in batteries, it could not possibly use all that in an instant.
And further research shows all those batteries take up a fraction of the space of the massive fuel tanks for the smoke pump ships.

I see why you brought up Y2K, only someone who first got on the internet 25 years ago could be so easily gaslit by this.
You know, a gentleman would have known I was merely suggesting that your complaints were easily 25 years old. Again, you literally don't have a clue what you are talking about and even have problems reading the replies everyone gives you.

But, great talking with you again!
 
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