Blu-ray lives on as Verbatim and I-O Data pledge support with new drives and discs

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In brief: As streaming and other forms of digital distribution become the default for media consumption, major manufacturers have exited the optical disc market in recent years. Recognizing that demand for Blu-rays has not completely evaporated, particularly in Japan, two companies have promised to continue supporting the technology with new hardware and software.

In an official announcement translated by Automaton West, the two firms recently confirmed plans to strengthen their partnership to maintain the supply of Blu-ray discs and players in Japan. Verbatim and I-O Data acknowledged that, despite the rise of digital distribution, individuals and businesses still use optical discs for recording, storage, and other purposes.

Verbatim announced a new Blu-ray writer, called the Slimline, for recording 4K video to UHD Blu-ray at CES 2025. Earlier this year, I-O Data released the BD Reco external Blu-ray drive with a 6x write speed and an accompanying Microsoft Store app, which was enthusiastically received by Japanese users – many people in the country like to record TV shows onto Blu-ray discs.

I-O Data and Verbatim made a similar pledge to continue producing Blu-ray drives and discs last year, after Sony announced plans to exit the recordable disc business, which it finalized this past February. The company hoped to pivot its optical media business toward cold storage, but the move proved unsuccessful. LG and Panasonic also ceased manufacturing Blu-ray players.

The renewed determination from I-O Data and Verbatim to continue supporting Blu-ray comes mere weeks after two other external drive manufacturers, Elecom and Buffalo, announced their impending departure from the market. Elecom will cease production on June 30.

As the tech world slowly phases out optical media, Japan has stubbornly held onto Blu-rays. In 2023, Pioneer revealed an ultra-durable recordable Blu-ray format to comply with Japanese legislation requiring digital tax records to be preserved for 100 years. Meanwhile, when Microsoft ended official support for Windows 10 last year, external Blu-ray drives sold out in Tokyo's Akihabara district as local users scrambled to upgrade their operating systems using physical discs. Fujitsu even released a laptop equipped with an internal Blu-ray drive around the same time.

Blu-ray recently celebrated its 20th anniversary. Following its introduction at CES 2006, the format fought a brief war with HD DVD to deliver home media in high definition. Sony would promote Blu-ray through its PlayStation 3 home console later that year.

However, despite its higher quality, the Blu-ray business never overtook the DVD market. Although sales of both formats have steadily declined for years amid the rise of digital distribution, many people, even some younger users, prefer purchasing discs to retain a sense of ownership over their media and disconnect from internet services.

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Amazing. I live in NL and have NEVER met anyone who owns/owned a Blu-ray drive or player.
Blu-ray disc images are used all the time though.
 
I do rip my Blu-ray discs to my personal media server for ease of use and backup, but I also continually buy new movie releases, so I’m not giving up on the media format yet. And CDs. In other news, I can’t believe it’s already 20 years old. I still have some HD-DVDs from the hi-def format war…
 
MY PS3 Slim will continue to be my primary Blu Ray Player.

Looks like the PS5 and PS6 will have Blu Ray as well. Maybe someday I'll get a PS6 slim on sale.
With movies and games literally shrinking in stores, wont make much of difference. Best Buy dont even sell movies anymore. Walmarts gaming is shrinking every year. GameStop has been a non factor for a decade now, theyll be done for soon. Itll be all digital soon.
Japan will get the most use out of it.
 
With movies and games literally shrinking in stores, wont make much of difference. Best Buy dont even sell movies anymore. Walmarts gaming is shrinking every year. GameStop has been a non factor for a decade now, theyll be done for soon. Itll be all digital soon.
Japan will get the most use out of it.


As long as you have the physical copy, the government censorship can't change it. I have shelves of DVD and Blu Ray. A lot of questionable content, but that's my choice.

The real task is to backup your best movies to a HDD.
 
With movies and games literally shrinking in stores, wont make much of difference. Best Buy dont even sell movies anymore. Walmarts gaming is shrinking every year. GameStop has been a non factor for a decade now, theyll be done for soon. Itll be all digital soon.
Japan will get the most use out of it.
That's because purchasing has moved online. Blu ray sales have become stagnant, an ever shrinking part of the pie, but their death is way overblown.

All brick and mortar retail is suffering right now. Even if western studios stop putting out blu rays, the Chinese will keep putting them out for our viewing pleasure.
 
“As the tech world slowly phases out optical media, Japan has stubbornly held onto Blu-rays.”

Stubbornly? You might be happy owning nothing, but as for me and my house? We will own our things, and be thankful.
So you refuse to go with the status quo and insist on doing it your way.

Almost like that's.........the definition of STUBBORN.
 
That's because purchasing has moved online. Blu ray sales have become stagnant, an ever shrinking part of the pie, but their death is way overblown.

All brick and mortar retail is suffering right now. Even if western studios stop putting out blu rays, the Chinese will keep putting them out for our viewing pleasure.
Point is if you are going to buy online, people, not all but a lot will just buy digital and not physical media. Its a dying thing globally. Stock up while you can. Cause one day soon, there wont be physical media.

PC has been without physical media for almost 2 decades, minus a few games here or there. Consoles and movies in the next few years will see the same thing happen.
 
That's because purchasing has moved online. Blu ray sales have become stagnant, an ever shrinking part of the pie, but their death is way overblown.

All brick and mortar retail is suffering right now. Even if western studios stop putting out blu rays, the Chinese will keep putting them out for our viewing pleasure.

Because of broadband access there really is no challenger for the future of media storage.

The corporations all seem to agree that they want to control your content anyway so it's possible there will be no more physical media storage after Blu Ray besides SSD and HDD.
 
Point is if you are going to buy online, people, not all but a lot will just buy digital and not physical media. Its a dying thing globally. Stock up while you can. Cause one day soon, there wont be physical media.

PC has been without physical media for almost 2 decades, minus a few games here or there. Consoles and movies in the next few years will see the same thing happen.
You've missed the point, which is that blu ray sales are stagnant, not declining. The market is growing, and all that growth is going into streaming, but blu ray and dvd sales have held steady for a long time. People just dont buy AT RETAIL because who buys things at retail these days when you get it cheaper online?
Because of broadband access there really is no challenger for the future of media storage.

The corporations all seem to agree that they want to control your content anyway so it's possible there will be no more physical media storage after Blu Ray besides SSD and HDD.
See above. People still buy blu rays, just not at the store. Also the article you are commenting on is verbatim stating they will continue to support Blu Rays.
 
You've missed the point, which is that blu ray sales are stagnant, not declining. The market is growing, and all that growth is going into streaming, but blu ray and dvd sales have held steady for a long time. People just dont buy AT RETAIL because who buys things at retail these days when you get it cheaper online?

See above. People still buy blu rays, just not at the store. Also the article you are commenting on is verbatim stating they will continue to support Blu Rays.
Yeah like 2 companies which they be doing since 2025 because everyone else jumped ship. Again, tho, point being, people who buy online will just by the digital version. Sony is just keeping the bluray for nostalgia purpose not practical.
Your average person has no clue who Verbatim is, pc users do but pc hasnt worried about discs in forever. As I have stated before, some will still buy discs but the majority wont as its going to be harder to find anywhere but online.
 
You've missed the point, which is that blu ray sales are stagnant, not declining. The market is growing...
Blu Ray sales are declining, not stagnant:

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Point is if you are going to buy online, people, not all but a lot will just buy digital and not physical media. Its a dying thing globally. Stock up while you can. Cause one day soon, there wont be physical media.
We've heard that argument before especially with Vinal yet there's been a resurgence in recent years and you can easily pay some good change for Vinal players.

As far as CDs go, some contemporary artists release on CD. Same thing applies to CDs - we've all heard the doom and gloom predictions and yet, some how, physical media, of all types just keeps going.

The doom and gloom comments remind me of religious zealots claiming the end of the world is coming. How long has that been going on?

Blu Ray sales are declining, not stagnant:

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Yet there's another side of the story -
 
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Yet there's another side of the story -
Except that article reinforces the decline, rather than contradicting it. From your link:

"U.S. DVD/Blu-ray revenue year-over-year decline in 2024 — down to $1B versus $16B at peak in 2005, reflecting the full weight of the streaming era."

"Blu-ray and DVD combined sales decline in Q3 2024, totaling $363M — down from $4.7B in 2017 and $1.5B in 2022, marking continued contraction....


The article mentions steady sales of BD players...then explains why:

"[A 60%] share of Blu-ray players are sold as part of gaming consoles — proving that PlayStation and Xbox are still the most effective Blu-ray distribution engine....."

The only hard data that was positive was this, which relates to US sales only (world sales of 4K Blu Ray still declined)

"...4K Blu-ray sales growth in 2024, fueled by collector demand for classics, limited editions, and director’s cuts — the only segment gaining ground....."

Personally, I still spend a large sum annually on BD media ... but the fact remains that total BD sales today are a zit on the arse end of the SVOD rhinoceros.
 
Amazing. I live in NL and have NEVER met anyone who owns/owned a Blu-ray drive or player.
Blu-ray disc images are used all the time though.

Not even in a game console? The Playstation 3 and 4 have internal Blu-Ray drives. The Xbox One also has one, the Xbox One S and Xbox One X have Ultra HD 4K Blu-Ray drives, as does the Xbox Series X. (The Xbox Series S has no optical drive.)

Of course, having that capability doesn't necessarily mean that the owner has bought any Blu-Ray movies or TV shows. They may only use it for gaming. I'm at the other end of that; I bought an Xbox One S primarily to be a 4K Blu-Ray player, and only secondarily for games. But I'm in the US, not NL.
 
As long as you have the physical copy, the government censorship can't change it. I have shelves of DVD and Blu Ray. A lot of questionable content, but that's my choice.

The real task is to backup your best movies to a HDD.

There is one way that they could interfere with your viewing; they could take down the servers that are required to unlock the DRM on the discs. But there are ways around it.
 
Except that article reinforces the decline, rather than contradicting it. From your link:

"U.S. DVD/Blu-ray revenue year-over-year decline in 2024 — down to $1B versus $16B at peak in 2005, reflecting the full weight of the streaming era."

"Blu-ray and DVD combined sales decline in Q3 2024, totaling $363M — down from $4.7B in 2017 and $1.5B in 2022, marking continued contraction....


The article mentions steady sales of BD players...then explains why:

"[A 60%] share of Blu-ray players are sold as part of gaming consoles — proving that PlayStation and Xbox are still the most effective Blu-ray distribution engine....."

The only hard data that was positive was this, which relates to US sales only (world sales of 4K Blu Ray still declined)

"...4K Blu-ray sales growth in 2024, fueled by collector demand for classics, limited editions, and director’s cuts — the only segment gaining ground....."

Personally, I still spend a large sum annually on BD media ... but the fact remains that total BD sales today are a zit on the arse end of the SVOD rhinoceros.
The article mentions that UHD Blu-ray is increasing and that appears to be coupled with 4K TV/Display sales. But of course, jumping on the BR is dying stick, is just perpetuating the argument. As I said, we've all heard that argument before. What "zit" is there is enough of a "zit" for Verbatim and I-O Data to continue to support the market, and that article states as much, that there's still money to be made in the market.

Not to mention that the article forecasts 33% growth fueled by smart 4K players with IoT and streaming integration.
 
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Not to mention that the article forecasts 33% growth fueled by smart 4K players with IoT and streaming integration.
While I certainly hope that rosy forecast comes true, I rather doubt it. All it will take is for one major studio to decide that it's no longer worth supporting physical media, and the rest will all follow lemming-fashion.
 
The article mentions that UHD Blu-ray is increasing and that appears to be coupled with 4K TV/Display sales. But of course, jumping on the BR is dying stick, is just perpetuating the argument. As I said, we've all heard that argument before. What "zit" is there is enough of a "zit" for Verbatim and I-O Data to continue to support the market, and that article states as much, that there's still money to be made in the market.

Not to mention that the article forecasts 33% growth fueled by smart 4K players with IoT and streaming integration.
Blu-ray is in fact dying. I didnt jump on anything, the writing is everywhere. No one said $ cant be made or isnt but these companies arent going to make a huge difference in the end. Sure they may keep things going online, for stores and where the majority will see products, Blu-ray will basically be dead as they simply aren't seen anymore.
Japan will be a big player but that country seems content with Blu-ray, but globally not so much.
This is where the majority will just buy the digital products as they dont see or even know about Blu-ray, even more so the younger generation only know or simply care about digital products. The world is going digital whether we like it or not, same with AI, its here whether we like it or not.
 
I live and work in Japan. Everything in the article is spot on.
Last year I bought a newly released pioneer 4k blu-ray player. It's beautiful on OLED.

My PS3 still plays 1080p blu-ray movies and TV shows perfectly and better quality than crappy streaming.

I have shelves of disks. There are 100s, no thousands of blu-ray movies and TV, HBO etc disks available to purchase new. I use Amazon Japan and Often Amazon USA as the regions match.

Saying there are not many new release blu-ray disks anymore is b.s. How would anyone know if they settle for subpar streaming quality.

Just about every HBO drama, every movie is available on blu-ray. I own the whole game of Thrones all seasons, and have House of the Dragon on new 4k - blu-ray as an example. Plus many many more movies etc.

Also, while 4k blu-ray disks are expensive, 1080p disks are not, especially older movies and drama series.

It's up to the individual, nothing wrong with streaming - it's just that I don't like it. I prefer owning physical disks, having an extensive library.

So while streaming is likely cheaper and fine I guess for drama, it can't even to begin to compare to the quality of a 4k Blu-Ray on a good 4k player with a large TV. It's home entertainment at it's best.

Even regular 1080p blu-ray have much better bit rate and really pop with color on OLED.

Thanks for the article, Daniel. (y) (Y)
 
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