Browser makers are calling out Microsoft for using Windows to push Edge on users

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A hot potato: The Browser Choice Alliance (BCA) was recently formed to promote genuine competition in the web browser market. The organization is once again pursuing that goal, accusing Microsoft of abusing its dominant position in the PC industry to push Edge onto Windows users.

A couple of years after petitioning the European Commission to address Microsoft's "dark patterns" that limit consumer choice, the Browser Choice Alliance is taking a more confrontational stance. The coalition of browser developers has warned Microsoft that enough is enough, urging the company to fundamentally change its approach to the browser market and how users are treated.

In a recent letter sent to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, the BCA again accuses the company of abusing its dominant position in the PC industry. It argues that Microsoft is leveraging its "immensely powerful" Windows monopoly, along with its widely used productivity applications, to push users toward browsing the web with Edge.

The BCA also alleges that Microsoft uses specific, well-tested tactics to distort market conditions and restrict user choice. In particular, it accuses the company of rebate programs that discourage the pre-installation of rival browsers on Windows devices, the inability to fully uninstall Edge, and the use of system updates to restore Edge integration within the OS.

Microsoft is also reportedly using intrusive and confusing prompts and advertising when users attempt to download and install third-party browsers. The BCA further criticizes deep Edge integration with Teams, Outlook, Windows Search, and other key operating system features, as well as what it describes as the lack of a "one-click switch" option to fully replace Edge with an alternative browser.

"Microsoft's actions make it unnecessarily difficult and, in many cases, impossible for PC users to select and use their preferred browser across all touchpoints," the coalition said.

The BCA also notes that PCs remain a major gateway to the web, and their importance continues to grow in the era of generative AI and web-based AI services. It argues that Microsoft's tactics to steer users toward Edge undermine competition and innovation in the browser market, frustrate users, and are prompting regulatory scrutiny – particularly outside the US – of the company's business practices.

The coalition is not merely complaining, however. It has explicitly called on Microsoft to change its approach, respect user choice, and implement policies aimed at restoring competitiveness to the browser market. In particular, it argues that the company should allow third-party browser pre-installation, eliminate dark patterns that discourage browser downloads, and enable full removal of Edge from deeper Windows integration.

Web browsers should compete on merit instead of abusing monopoly, the BCA said.

Members of the coalition include Google Chrome, which was recently designated as a de facto monopoly over the web search and advertising markets.

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I really don't think anyone except the most computer illiterate people are being confused by this, and Google is far worse in this regard. Can't remove Chrome or even the YouTube app from a phone without jailbreaking it.

If you want to stop this kind of behavior but pretend only one company is doing it, it makes it feel highly biased. I'd almost wonder if Google had their hand in this in some way.

Oh wait, that is literally exactly what is happening: "Members of the coalition include Google Chrome, which was recently designated as a de facto monopoly over the web search and advertising markets."

Techslop put this at the very end of the article, because had they framed this clearly and accurately, there would be no story. Google trying to throw shade on Edge is not news, this pure ragebait and extremely poor journalism. Pure waste of time for everyone involved except the ads Techslop monotized along the way.
 
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I think there's enough blame here to share it with everyone involved. I understand that many executives are not capable of processing causality, but the coalition is battling a monster they created. Have fun with that. I also have little sympathy for businesses whining over missed profits while being shoveled public dollars and sweetheart contracts.
 
I really don't think anyone except the most computer illiterate people are being confused by this, and Google is far worse in this regard. Can't remove Chrome or even the YouTube app from a phone without jailbreaking it.

If you want to stop this kind of behavior but pretend only one company is doing it, it makes it feel highly biased. I'd almost wonder if Google had their hand in this in some way.
One company being bad doesn't make other good. There is huge issue with apple and Google, but this exact action is focused on ms windows, and should be resolved. EU as well pushes other companies to allow side loading and more control for users, which those companies constantly contest. But one topic at a time.
 
One company being bad doesn't make other good. There is huge issue with apple and Google, but this exact action is focused on ms windows, and should be resolved. EU as well pushes other companies to allow side loading and more control for users, which those companies constantly contest. But one topic at a time.

That is exactly the issue, this isn't a Windows problem, it's a common trend among OSes and their default browser made by the same company. Focusing on Microsoft only is extremely biased when they are clearly not even the worst offender, by far.

"Members of the coalition include Google Chrome, which was recently designated as a de facto monopoly over the web search and advertising markets."
 
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Microsoft has been doing this since at least the XP era and doesn't grasp the principle of standing back respectfully; as in love, force repels. Users should choose Edge based on merit and convenience. Fundamentally, it is an excellent browser marred by clutter. The biggest joke of all is Google's pointing the finger at Microsoft.
 
Most people hate popup screens. They've been trained to click them away. A lot of people barely read what they say. If you do that on a Microsoft OS, pretty soon you'll be instructing your OS to revert to Microsoft recommended settings, which mean Edge. That just sucks. No matter what you think about other browser creators (I don't think any of them are to be held in particularly high regard tbh).
 
I use Brave, but I really don't have an issue with Edge from a usage/performance aspect. But I won't use it just on principal because of its nagging and trying to force me to use it.
 
Most users always use programs installed by default and this cannot be changed in any way.
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Chrome, which is the not default candidate, is the dominant browser on Windows and has been for many years.

I did not realize that Microsoft had active incentives against it being pre-installed on premade PCs.
 
I really don't think anyone except the most computer illiterate people are being confused by this, and Google is far worse in this regard. Can't remove Chrome or even the YouTube app from a phone without jailbreaking it.

If you want to stop this kind of behavior but pretend only one company is doing it, it makes it feel highly biased. I'd almost wonder if Google had their hand in this in some way.

Oh wait, that is literally exactly what is happening: "Members of the coalition include Google Chrome, which was recently designated as a de facto monopoly over the web search and advertising markets."

Techslop put this at the very end of the article, because had they framed this clearly and accurately, there would be no story. Google trying to throw shade on Edge is not news, this pure ragebait and extremely poor journalism. Pure waste of time for everyone involved except the ads Techslop monotized along the way.
I really don't think anyone except the most computer illiterate people are being confused by this, and Google is far worse in this regard. Can't remove Chrome or even the YouTube app from a phone without jailbreaking it.

If you want to stop this kind of behavior but pretend only one company is doing it, it makes it feel highly biased. I'd almost wonder if Google had their hand in this in some way.

Oh wait, that is literally exactly what is happening: "Members of the coalition include Google Chrome, which was recently designated as a de facto monopoly over the web search and advertising markets."

Techslop put this at the very end of the article, because had they framed this clearly and accurately, there would be no story. Google trying to throw shade on Edge is not news, this pure ragebait and extremely poor journalism. Pure waste of time for everyone involved except the ads Techslop monotized along the way.
I use Brave, but I really don't have an issue with Edge from a usage/performance aspect. But I won't use it just on principal because of its nagging and trying to force me to use it.
I won't use Peter Theil's best mate's browser on principal too.
 
Most people hate popup screens. They've been trained to click them away. A lot of people barely read what they say. If you do that on a Microsoft OS, pretty soon you'll be instructing your OS to revert to Microsoft recommended settings, which mean Edge. That just sucks. No matter what you think about other browser creators (I don't think any of them are to be held in particularly high regard tbh).

Mind that Outlook/Office even has a separate setting to select the browser in which url's are opened. Overruling the OS setting. And the default browser for Outlook/Office is... You guessed it.
 
That is exactly the issue, this isn't a Windows problem, it's a common trend among OSes and their default browser made by the same company. Focusing on Microsoft only is extremely biased when they are clearly not even the worst offender, by far.

"Members of the coalition include Google Chrome, which was recently designated as a de facto monopoly over the web search and advertising markets."

Apple doesn't force Siri on me when I use MacOS. I don't have to jump through hoops and when Siri updates it doesn't try to make itself the default browser again or try and change my settings. Edge just made itself the default browser and disabled a whole heap of extensions after an update last week. Absolute POS company that just cannot abide user choice.
 
Apple doesn't force Siri on me when I use MacOS. I don't have to jump through hoops and when Siri updates it doesn't try to make itself the default browser again or try and change my settings. Edge just made itself the default browser and disabled a whole heap of extensions after an update last week. Absolute POS company that just cannot abide user choice.
What apple does or doesn't do doesn't mean that Google funding a group to bash edge is real news. Google is the worst offender here by far.
 
I and a few others have, between us, built an entire range of self-contained, totally "portable" applications for the 'Puppy' Linux eco-system. This covers a whole range of mainstream browsers......including Chrome (yes, and even Edge for Linux....for those that want it).

You want Chrome? You download it, and run the scripts to launch & use it. Fed up with it? Just select it, and hit the 'Delete' button, and.....poof! It's gone as though it never existed.

Same goes for Edge.

The updaters don't work properly under Linux, so we built our own. Which DOES work, the way it should....

Miq.
 
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