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China bans Windows 8 on government PCs

By Scorpus ยท 44 replies
May 20, 2014
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  1. The Chinese government is a serial offender when it comes to banning things, with the country recently adding a major product to its ever growing list of prohibited items: Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system.

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  2. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    I highly doubt new windows OS's have prepatched all the stuff that have been on the old OS's so in fact XP is more safer than 8
  3. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments ever made.
    VitalyT, lmike6453, SalaSSin and 3 others like this.
  4. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,044   +794

    I assume Sarcasm?
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  5. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,458   +1,737

    Microsoft should ban Chinese food on its premises :)
    Last edited: May 20, 2014
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  6. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,840   +1,184

    Yes, but I bet they're particularly effective at keeping a very close eye on government employees. I'll bet China learned a thing or two from Ed Snowden about not paying attention to what your employees are doing in your system.
  7. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    No.. unless im thinking of a different OS that had the exact same zero day security issue that was patched 2yrs before the new OS was out.... which from what I remember might have been windows xp or 7 maybe but unlikely vista...
  8. bexwhitt

    bexwhitt TS Guru Posts: 322   +63

    XP is unsecure by design.
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  9. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Like all Operating systems then...
  10. EEatGDL

    EEatGDL TS Evangelist Posts: 536   +210

    "more safer"? And no, all OS are vulnerable by design, but XP lacks a lot of security measures, starting by that ugly .ini file read on boot; without doing anything fancy simply add or delete [maliciously] any random character and you have a headache granted. If XP boot fails you have to format because there's no support for boot repair like in >=6.0 NT Windows versions. There are a lot of simple changes that add some protection or make them more robust than XP, but of course, IE vulnerabilities, OS exploits are still possible -and that doesn't mean XP and 7/8 have the same security measures.
  11. It's probably smart for an aspiring superpower to not use enemy software. It's almost like
    DUH smart.
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  12. Dilan Gilluly

    Dilan Gilluly TS Rookie

    Wtf are you talking about? Of course the new Windows OS's are "prepatched" because they were made AFTER XP and therefor actually have more security measures in the OS. Windows 8 was deemed more secure than OSX at the time of its release by security researchers.

    Since XP still has vulnerabilities that are being discovered and patched in Windows 7 and 8, makes it less secure. So you can use XP if you want, but I'll stick with current and supported Operating Systems.
    spectrenad likes this.
  13. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,198   +593

    This was an odd decision but nothing to big in all honesty. The funny part are the different excuses used in why they are not going to use 8 to me. According the the article and the Chinese government, Windows 8 is an energy hog (Or at least inefficient) and to unsecured. I can see maybe they have a reason to say its not secure enough for them, but the energy hog one is quite perplexing.
    Jad Chaar and psycros like this.
  14. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    I personally use windows 8 but hate metro, would use linux but lets be honest it doesnt have all the software windows does and its UI aint exactly easy..
    Gamesinner likes this.
  15. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,044   +794

    You said XP is safer than Windows vista/7/8.1, it's not, you're right in the fact no OS is free from security vulnerabilities but it certainly isn't safer by any stretch of the imagination, I sincerely hope you don't spread that weird view on Windows XP around.

    Agreed, I also use 8.1 now, lets see what the October "Update2" brings as they've already shown off the new start menu.
  16. cartera

    cartera TS Evangelist Posts: 358   +105

    That is a interesting point of view which goes against every product lifecycle. Please explain why corporations, governments and businesses would bother making the investment moving away from XP if it is safer sticking with XP?
  17. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,689   +1,088

    "However, the ban is still a significant blow for Microsoft, which has struggled to gain a sales footprint in the country due to piracy."

    Right, because the state-supported piracy industry in China definitely won't pirate Windows 8.

    /triple facepalm
  18. Which is the aspiring superpower?
  19. They just hate the start screen.
  20. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Yeah the energy hog complaint is odd.
  21. > ...[Linux-based operating systems] are likely less versatile than Windows

    I assume this is sarcasm too. Versatility thanks to liberal licensing used for free (as in freedom)/open-source software is exactly one of the main reasons why most supercomputers, most servers, the CERN and the International Space Station use GNU/Linux operating systems
  22. tragicallyhip

    tragicallyhip TS Booster Posts: 90   +12

    US government bans procurement of networking hardware made by Chinese company, NSA busted for extensive back door eavesdropping using said companies gear worldwide. With alleged cooperation between Microsoft and NSA China decides they don't want anything to do with US based OS, Go Figure!
    Turn around is fair play my friends.
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  23. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    YOLO....? More secure than being paid to leave gaping fat holes in your OS so tards can watch you on your webcam you mean?
  24. ...and that is precisely why it has no single standard, or no standard to be perfectly frank, and through that is inherently unstable. The only reason its so popular for environments such as those you have listed is because Linux can be customised for very specific tasks, whereas windows is a general one size fits all. Or in other words, Windows is cheaper than Linux from a corporate perspective (If you can get your head around the fact that windows is supported by a large corporate entity while Linux is not and thus costs more to maintain)
  25. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Guru Posts: 669   +245

    Smart move by the Chinese.

    Windows 8 sucks. All the reasons most people say they upgraded just aren't compelling enough for me if I am going to be stuck using a cartoony 4-bit color scheme with square corners and no transparency in application windows because tablets aren't powerful enough. If Windows 9 stops punishing desktop users at the expense of tablet users that would solve the biggest problem with (the current version of) Windows 8. As terrible and unappealing as the overall look-and-feel of Windows 8 is, its not the biggest concern I have.

    The biggest concern I have about Windows 8 specifically and the Windows brand in general is not where it's at right now. Where its at right now is pretty sad but I am even more concerned about where its headed. ZDNet posted an article hinting at the idea of Windows becoming an operating-system-as-a-service. Sounds like it could become very expensive. It also sounds like less control on the client machine and more on the server or "in the coud".

    Microsoft much like government would prefer people become fully dependent on them versus being able to stand on their own two feet. God knows that Microsoft probably regrets the release of Windows XP more than any other software product they have ever released. "Our customers using a operating system for over 12 years? How do we prevent THAT from ever happening again in the future? Operating-System-As-A-Service. Yearly Subscriptions." Bingo!!!!!

    And then there is the last concern and that is one of security. Windows 8 maybe the securest operating system to date if you consider keeping amateur hackers from tampering with your machine the only bad guys. But how secure is it in keeping out the NSA? Maybe I am too cynical. Maybe Windows 8 doesn't have a gazillion backdoors in it that were mandated by the NSA. Is that possible? LOL. I can dream...cant I?

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