China bans Windows 8 on government PCs

[captaincranky]

....[ ]....Agreed, I also use 8.1 now, lets see what the October "Update2" brings as they've already shown off the new start menu.

Right! Now all M$ has to do is include Windows Media Center for free, and you'll have Windows 7. It's like "deja vu all over again", I tell you.

YOLO....? More secure than being paid to leave gaping fat holes in your OS so tards can watch you on your webcam you mean?

OK, if I had a webcam, (which I don't), and I knew I was being watched, I'd seriously consider stuffing said webcam up my behind.

Why? Because, there is such a thing as, "too much information", and it would probably get a million hits on YouTube.

You know, the YouTube hits being sort of well, like a "bonus".

...[ ]...ZDNet posted an article hinting at the idea of Windows becoming an operating-system-as-a-service. Sounds like it could become very expensive. It also sounds like less control on the client machine and more on the server or "in the cloud".

Microsoft much like government would prefer people become fully dependent on them versus being able to stand on their own two feet. God knows that Microsoft probably regrets the release of Windows XP more than any other software product they have ever released. "Our customers using a operating system for over 12 years? How do we prevent THAT from ever happening again in the future? Operating-System-As-A-Service. Yearly Subscriptions." Bingo!!!!!

I'd almost be willing to bet Adobes seeming success with its subscription model for their, "Creative Cloud", has emboldened them quite a bit.

I'm an old man, and PSCS-4, Lightroom 4, and Windows 7 will most likely serve my needs for the rest of my life.

But you young uns watch out, because these monopolies are vampires of the wallet. They'll suck the life out of you and your damned bitcoins. Ah, but then again, you've been so brainwashed, you probably won't notice. Ignorance is bliss, or so they say.

 

[Guest]

Microsoft should ban Chinese food on its premises

lol hahahaha

 

[Burty117]

Right! Now all M$ has to do is include Windows Media Center for free, and you'll have Windows 7. It's like "deja vu all over again", I tell you.

Hold your horses there! Didn't we go through a period of pain when Vista came out because it was a completely new architecture hence why XP drivers don't work in Vista/7/8.1? but Vista Drivers do work in 7/8.1? Also the inclusion of UAC (as annoying as it is) built in Windows Defender/Security Essentials & a way better Windows Firewall, plus a Windows Update system that was much less fragile and support for newer versions of IE, just those alone makes Vista/7/8.1 much safer than XP? Or am I missing something crucial that I don't know about?

 

[captaincranky]

Hold your horses there! Didn't we go through a period of pain when Vista came out because it was a completely new architecture hence why XP drivers don't work in Vista/7/8.1? but Vista Drivers do work in 7/8.1? Also the inclusion of UAC (as annoying as it is) built in Windows Defender/Security Essentials & a way better Windows Firewall, plus a Windows Update system that was much less fragile and support for newer versions of IE, just those alone makes Vista/7/8.1 much safer than XP? Or am I missing something crucial that I don't know about?

Burty, why are you arguing with me over XP.? I didn't so much as breathe a whisper about it.

What I said, and what it referred to, was simply this; If they gave you WMC for free, and considering the "start menu", is allegedly returning, then Windows 8, will be the perfect clone of Windows 7.

As far as Vista goes, the only thing it had going for it, was native SATA, (or if you prefer, "ACHI"), drivers. That effectively did away with the need for a floppy drive.

With that said, M$ and the PC builders have to be in cahoots with every new version of Windows, since pre-builts never seem to have drivers available which would allow you to upgrade the OS only. In fact, as far as my eMachines is concerned, you can't even use a genuine copy of Windows XP, in any capacity, since the "restore disc", is in reality, a disc image of the XP install, along with the attendant bloatware, and necessary drivers.

In fact, last week I reinstalled its OS, and had to start removing "AOL", programs, (from 1995), a bunch of crapware, (like OEM Nero 6, which will barely burn a CD), and a trial edition of Norton 1995.

But also in fact, an OEM copy of Windows is supposed to be imaged, and it even stipulates that somewhere in the EULA.

So, in the case of "the big E-zee", the "M$ Vista Upgrade Adviser", which M$ practically rammed down everybody's throat, came uncomfortably close to giving, "good luck with that", as its answer. And man oh many did I breathe a sigh of relief when I realized I wouldn't be victimized by the public beta that was Vista.

But yeah, the massive failure that was Vista, I grudgingly have to say, wasn't entirely M$' fault, since nobody was all that diligent in writing Vista drivers for existing hardware, at least not as far as being on step with its release.

With respect to the raging debate over the relative safety of XP versus...., versus...., versus.

I either use it offline, or use it to hunt porn, not to log into my bank. Which, (IMHO) makes it safe for everyday use, and a typical blaspheme on my part, to run it on Sunday.

 

[Burty117]

Burty, why are you arguing with me over XP.? I didn't so much as breathe a whisper about it.

That is absolutely my bad, I didn't read what you quoted properly this morning (I'm tired) I obviously thought you were arguing that XP was safe. Sorry.

What I said, and what it referred to, was simply this; If they gave you WMC for free, and considering the "start menu", is allegedly returning, then Windows 8, will be the perfect clone of Windows 7.

But that's pretty much exactly what people want on Desktop, They are still keeping the metro interface as it will auto-detect if you are using a touch screen or not and default to it.

To be honest I'm quite happy with Windows 8.1 now, once they add the start menu back I'll start recommending it to friends and the like.

 

[Guest]

This is so terrible! So Chinese government actually refused bribes from Microsoft, and did not spend millions of people's money on their new stupid OS! How undemocratic. They'll use free Linux instead for their civil servants and save budget on something useful, like pensions, hospitals and new homes. Terrible, isn't it? Such a country must not exist, it gives a bad example to the world. What if Americans will ask their government where all the taxes go?! It would be the end of civilisation as we know it.

 

[tipstir]

Stop making things in China and see how things fall apart there. China Bans stuff why can't we Ban China stuff. I in for it..

 

[captaincranky]

Stop making things in China and see how things fall apart there. China Bans stuff why can't we Ban China stuff. I in for it..

And as soon as you get the first bill for "made in USA", you'll be back here crying your eyes out. Sadly, I have no intention of being here to wipe the tears away.

Besides, even if you get something that is made in the United States, you'll likely have to call customer service in India, should anything go wrong with it.

Minimum wage here is pushing ten bucks an hour. A Chinese worker is thrilled to get $2.00.

The reason things are made in China, is the fact the the Chinese are still stupid enough to believe our I.O.U. s are worth something.

Americans don't do jobs anymore, which they deem to be, "beneath their dignity". So, count on your food to picked, and your houses to be built, by illegal aliens.

 

[Guest]

I suppose this was seriously a confusing stage for Microsoft, why Chinese did this ?
China is so tech savvy and majority of technology support has been from China, so this decision has some other reasons up the sleeves other than security

 

[cartera]

YOLO....? More secure than being paid to leave gaping fat holes in your OS so tards can watch you on your webcam you mean?

When you make a perfect piece of software that has no vulnerabilities let me know

Being paid, where have you got this from?

 

[wastedkill]

When you make a perfect piece of software that has no vulnerabilities let me know

Being paid, where have you got this from?

Oh I dont know possibly from every single website on the internet and every news outlet... but hey who am I to say they are right

 

[cartera]

Oh I dont know possibly from every single website on the internet and every news outlet... but hey who am I to say they are right

Link one, preferably the one about webcam hack.

 

[tipstir]

And as soon as you get the first bill for "made in USA", you'll be back here crying your eyes out. Sadly, I have no intention of being here to wipe the tears away.

Besides, even if you get something that is made in the United States, you'll likely have to call customer service in India, should anything go wrong with it.

Minimum wage here is pushing ten bucks an hour. A Chinese worker is thrilled to get $2.00.

The reason things are made in China, is the fact the the Chinese are still stupid enough to believe our I.O.U. s are worth something.

Americans don't do jobs anymore, which they deem to be, "beneath their dignity". So, count on your food to picked, and your houses to be built, by illegal aliens.

No one here is crying for that bill.. That's how and why they pushed to go to Asia to produce items that use to be made here. Under-the-table deals or perks. Government hidden secret under the Reagan Years.

If you travel over all the USA like I have from CA to NY then NY to FL then CT to TX you'll see how making items over seas that were made here have made small towns a ghost town. Really bad move on Reagan for doing so.

Today Walmart use to Roll Back Prices they're not Increase Prices on certain items you really need to wear. Of course if it doesn't say made in the USA your will end up paying more because China lifestyle become more like they have all the money now.

Customer Service at some companies are still manned by USA employees. You ask for someone on the mainland. Not only India, now it's anywhere they can get labor for cheap and they have to be able to speak English or get taught how to speak it. Once I had a nice lady from Guam who told me how they where trained to handle USA clients.

Americans are now begging on the Traffic Light intersection with signs that read "vet needs help will work for food", mother of two need help an etc. I am sure these people would want to go back to work if they could. China Made doesn't mean it's the best it could be the worst. But too late the China Market Foot Hold is Here!

 

[wastedkill]

Link one, preferably the one about webcam hack.

Webcam hack... what???? And no im not your mule google it or delete your system32

 

[cartera]

Webcam hack... what???? And no im not your mule google it or delete your system32

This is your statement we're arguing over, I'll take that as your curtains closed.

 

[wastedkill]

This is your statement we're arguing over, I'll take that as your curtains closed.

No its not your making stuff up and I dont have curtains... Use google im not your slave if you want me to do your research for you pay me £5,000!!! Otherwise do it yourself lazy!!!

 

[captaincranky]

...[ ]....
Americans are now begging on the Traffic Light intersection with signs that read "vet needs help will work for food", mother of two need help an etc. I am sure these people would want to go back to work if they could. China Made doesn't mean it's the best it could be the worst. But too late the China Market Foot Hold is Here!

Well, I'm sure you're being truthful when you tell me Americans are begging on the corners, and you've been all across the country.

With that said, you can't learn squat about what's going on, by looking out the window of an airplane, or looking at the stripe down the middle of Route 66.

For every person begging on the corner, there's a thousand in the inner city, selling crack and heroine. These are the reproductive projects of people that haven't worked in decades through several generations. Preferring instead to live off social entitlements and supplement their "income", with the sale of narcotics. These people have no intention of getting jobs within the actual context of the working class, and their children will very likely, follow in their footsteps.

And "whoop de doo", that fact that some companies have brought customer service back stateside. One, the job most likely doesn't pay that well. And two, the Indians probably ran out of fake names to call themselves when answering the phone.

 

[tipstir]

Well, I'm sure you're being truthful when you tell me Americans are begging on the corners, and you've been all across the country.

With that said, you can't learn squat about what's going on, by looking out the window of an airplane, or looking at the stripe down the middle of Route 66.

For every person begging on the corner, there's a thousand in the inner city, selling crack and heroine. These are the reproductive projects of people that haven't worked in decades through several generations. Preferring instead to live off social entitlements and supplement their "income", with the sale of narcotics. These people have no intention of getting jobs within the actual context of the working class, and their children will very likely, follow in their footsteps.

And "whoop de doo", that fact that some companies have brought customer service back stateside. One, the job most likely doesn't pay that well. And two, the Indians probably ran out of fake names to call themselves when answering the phone.

I can say anything about inner city here it's pretty high class non-city life, but there are people coming over the county line to beg for money/food at certain intersection. There out there everyday sun/rain. But not at night. LIke a gang of old people, some in 20's, 30's 40s, 50s, 60s out there peddling. Not just here up in New England they were doing it also when you get off the highway.

Here the entitlements are what makes up this country. Can't say no, the money has to go somewhere and not to make the congress, senate or the pres billionaires. All the departments that make up the government have their hand in the money bucket. Why can't the people US Tax Payer get $10,000 a year to do what they want with tax free.

Look how much money we give away to other countries it's time to help the people all the people not just a few and huge tax break or funds to companies that send jobs to China, Guam an etc.

Wake-up this the deal..

 

[Guest]

@EEatGDL "more safer"? And no, all OS are vulnerable by design,":

Obviously, you never developed a commercial OS. Not all OSes are as vulnerable as Microsoft OSes. How many security patches have they put out by now for Windows 8 - I lost count! I have no reason to believe they rewrote the entire OS for Windows 8 and are still using much of the same base for Windows 8 as they did for Windows 7/Vista, XP, etc. One problem is when you try to maintain some sort of backward compatibility without blowing everyone out of the water with new OS APIs, you sort of back yourself into a corner. New APIs the are incompatible and you open the door for users to switch to something else Apple, Linux, FreeBSD or whatever else may be available. Keep in mind the original DOS was never designed with security in mind. Go back 25 years or so and the internet was the domain of the US Government, universities and large corporations. That is also around the time frame the original DOS was developed (and not by Microsoft who bought it). Security back then for a "hobbyist" OS was not a problem. The worst case was downloading a "mischief maker" off some bulletin board - and then you hoped you backed up your OS to another floppy!

 

[Gaara]

I don't blame China at all .