CISPA passes House (again), White House threatens veto (again)

By Rick ¬∑ 8 replies
Apr 19, 2013
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  1. The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) is once again making the rounds. The bill passed the House on Thursday with a 288-127 vote. Although there appears to be a fair amount of bi-partisan support for the bill, it may...

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  2. bielius

    bielius TS Addict Posts: 214   +17

    This is bad this is bad this is bad. I hope Anon is really going to make the black out monday work, and more people will get informed about how much damage will this cause to our rights.
  3. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    Hmm... another law that balances security against protection of personal information. Reminds me of another bill that died in Congress this week *cough* gun control. The opponents there said that a national registry may someday occur of everyone who owned a gun. With CISPA we're scared of our personal information being held by the govt.

    But there's a difference... opponents of gun control also said that stricter background checks wouldn't be followed by criminals selling guns person to person anymore than someone selling a TV reports the cash income on his taxes. Its easy to oppose a law if you don't think it will serve any good.
    Where's the argument for the effectiveness of CISPA? Do the opponents say it won't cut down on cyber crime, and do the supporters say it will?
    We need to have some good information about the expected benefit if we're going to weigh the pluses and minuses of this bill.
  4. Who are some big supporters?
    Oh. The companies that are just waiting on making some more cash for selling the government information.

    Apple records all Siri data for two years? They'll make it three if that's how long this bill takes to get passed. Let them cherry-pick our rights away one by one...until it's too late to do anything about it...then we'll be fined for making a complaint!
  5. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,876   +1,297

    You already are. Look at the lawsuits the Obama administration has against various state governments and individuals who've exposed the criminal activities of himself and his cronies. Look at how hard the White House has tried to silence dissent. Look at the near total control they have over the so-called mainstream media. The ugly truth is that we haven't been living in a free republic for a while now. Obama has clearly learned from the pasting he took over supporting SOPA (at first) and has decided to at least *appear* like he opposes CISPA from the outset. Maybe its because he knows full well that CISPA is an even bigger threat to our freedoms. Its nothing less than a license to break the law and ignore due process. Funny thing is, Obama has signed off on several bills of *exactly* this kind and did it with a smile. None of those measures got any press coverage to speak of so that could be a factor. In truth I'm not sure why CISPA would give him the slightest pause..its not as if he has to worry about re-election. Maybe that's the real reason why he's taken this stance - perhaps he's scared that CISPA might open the door to airing his *own* dirty laundry as soon as he's out of office.

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 809   +102

    So this can go past the house but not a gun bill? LOL
  7. bielius

    bielius TS Addict Posts: 214   +17

    Summing up the governmental decisions...
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  8. I think it would be so much easier to protect America if we just got rid of due process all together. Come to think of it we should get rid of the Constitution as well. It just makes things so much harder. Maybe the government should just be able to do whatever they want and say it is for the good of the country. I mean there is absolutely no corruption of our elected officials.
  9. " skirting typical barriers like subpoenas and warrants "
    I don't think anymore need be said about this, especially when due process and judicial review is being considered a "barrier"

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