kiwigraeme
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I'm interested in long-term affect - remember when hard drives got real cheap - then was it Thailand floods? - it took a long long time for prices to trend down - I was just happy I bought before the massive hikes
CPU and GPU Availability and Pricing Update: April 2021
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Mr Majestyk
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How much are GTX1070's selling for? I have just built a new PC and now trying to decide whether to sell my old PC whole or sell it in parts. Luckily I got an amazing deal on a mint Gigabyte 2080 Super, much cheaper than any 3070 around, and less than half the new price.
PEnnn
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Well, that didn't take long for an economic "genius' to blame the government for providing help to millions of people so they won't lose their homes and stand in line at food banks....because of a GPU!
Sorry to inconvenience you and your ilk that can't buy a GPU or a used car (which were actually getting more expensive since the Republican 2008 recession)!! My heart is aching for your amazing bad luck...but you think people rushed and bought Bitcoin with their money instead paying their rent??
What a sick, twisted line of thinking one finds around this forum!
PS: Did you refuse to cash those stimulus checks by the way?? I doubt it!!
DonquixoteIII
Posts: 165 +101
To the author, (Tim Scheisser) I congratulate you on a very journalistic article once again. In this world of 'spin', it is refreshing to see someone try to reach the facts of the issues facing the GPU shortages (and CPU shortages) that the world is facing.
There is so much fear-mongering going on, untruths being told, and outright lies being maliciously spread that to see some one try to actually find the facts of the matter, in such depth, is refreshing.
There is so much fear-mongering going on, untruths being told, and outright lies being maliciously spread that to see some one try to actually find the facts of the matter, in such depth, is refreshing.
Interesting article. Is there anything to stop the manufacturers selling direct to the public? They could limit the number of sales to a customer - first item could be at MSRP while the 2nd purchase could be +50%. This would help give a fairer distribution of the product, move the profits back to the manufacturer while still generating customer good will.
It's a new iPhone or Nvidia gpu check. Or a booze cigarette check. Or Nike check. No one pays rent anymore. Who you kidding? lol.
Avro Arrow
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This situation is so insanely comical that it could have been brought to us by Monty Python.
StrikerRocket
Posts: 225 +186
"One person we spoke to shared their disappointment that GPU buyers are paying ridiculous prices at retail, but those inflated prices aren’t trickling down to the actual GPU designers who do the hardest work and could invest that in next-generation products."
Exactly my reaction when I saw the truly insane prices on eBay.
Instead of upgrading my GPU, I upgraded my monitor for a MSI MAG274QRF-QD, and that was the best upgrade I've done in YEARS. My GTX 1080 is still capable of running games at frame rates that allow taking advantage of this great monitor, and at the same time, I get a wide gamut for my photo work...
It's a shame, really, that some people are ready to pay 3 times MSRP for a GPU, it just does not make sense and encourages scalpers behaviour, which sucks big time!
Scalpers and/or distributors will get nothing from me. I'm going to stick with my 1080 until prices get much much lower... maybe until miners have to resell their overpriced overpaid GPUs for nothing since the second hand market will sooner or later be flooded with GPUS. Then, I hope, *we* will have some fun...
Exactly my reaction when I saw the truly insane prices on eBay.
Instead of upgrading my GPU, I upgraded my monitor for a MSI MAG274QRF-QD, and that was the best upgrade I've done in YEARS. My GTX 1080 is still capable of running games at frame rates that allow taking advantage of this great monitor, and at the same time, I get a wide gamut for my photo work...
It's a shame, really, that some people are ready to pay 3 times MSRP for a GPU, it just does not make sense and encourages scalpers behaviour, which sucks big time!
Scalpers and/or distributors will get nothing from me. I'm going to stick with my 1080 until prices get much much lower... maybe until miners have to resell their overpriced overpaid GPUs for nothing since the second hand market will sooner or later be flooded with GPUS. Then, I hope, *we* will have some fun...
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I can wait for the dust to settle. Only difference is I’m considering AMD. Use to run Tyan Tigers with Athlon MPs. They dropped the ball and Intel got my money.
Seems Intel has dropped the ball now, so may the best APU win.
Thankfully I’m not a victim of the dIscrete GPU market.
Those scalpers are making a fortune off of those who need the latest/greatest.
Seems Intel has dropped the ball now, so may the best APU win.
Thankfully I’m not a victim of the dIscrete GPU market.
Those scalpers are making a fortune off of those who need the latest/greatest.
The only thing I blamed mining on was driving up the prices. Which, it does. Gamers, for the most part are not paying 2.5-3X for a GPU that they won't be able to sell for 1/4 of that in 2-3 years when they want a new GPU. Gamers are watching for GPUs to come in stock that they can grab at a reasonable price.
To be fair though, its not entirely clear that the CPU market would be back to normal if GPUs were at least as available as CPUs. Since GPUs are completely sold out, people looking to do a complete build are most likely only grabbing a CPU if they can get a GPU. Also I think most gamers upgrade their GPU more often than CPU.
PEnnn
Posts: 1,285 +1,853
It's called projecting. Look it up. new word for you. You're welcome!!
"A thief thinks everyone else is also a thief"....A Chinese proverb.
audioman83
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Dear Bemoaner of free markets:
You are not entitled to a person or companies' product at any prices.
You hate companies and capitalism for "taking profits" but how do you view your labor's value? Maybe you have a rare, marketable talent, and you are able to "take record profits" ...as much as you can. Because you can. And want to. Good for you. Doesn't hurt me one bit.
Your hate-o-meter would not boil over so much if you thought about how "high" prices both bring in supply and diminish waste. It's called equilibrium, and it's natural.
Just because it's also in free markets doesn't mean it's dangerous. Or good/bad/right/wrong.
You are not entitled to a person or companies' product at any prices.
You hate companies and capitalism for "taking profits" but how do you view your labor's value? Maybe you have a rare, marketable talent, and you are able to "take record profits" ...as much as you can. Because you can. And want to. Good for you. Doesn't hurt me one bit.
Your hate-o-meter would not boil over so much if you thought about how "high" prices both bring in supply and diminish waste. It's called equilibrium, and it's natural.
Just because it's also in free markets doesn't mean it's dangerous. Or good/bad/right/wrong.
I needed a good chuckle this morning. Thank you.
Neatfeatguy
Posts: 1,615 +3,045
My local Micro Center is showing 25+ of the 5900x CPUs in stock as of 4/27/21!
I already have one that I picked up in January, but the thing that really sticks about the stock this time around is that these CPUs are priced $150 over the MSRP of $549 (which is what I was able to pay for mine). Right now you can walk into my local Micro Center, get a 5900x for $699......WTF?
The 5800x has been available at Micro Center on an almost constant basis the past 4-6 months and they are priced a bit under MSRP. Right now you can a 5800x at $429, about $20 under MSRP. And the 5600x was usually in stock (currently out of stock), but the price has always been MSRP $299.
Why has the price jumped up on the 5900x? Sure, it's been harder to come by, but what the hell is with the high price spike, Micro Center? Even during all the time the 5900x was scarce before this handful of CPUs available now, but the price was never over MSRP at Micro Center.
Has the MSRP price been pushed up on AMD CPUs? WTF is going on here? If that's the case, that's just gross.
I already have one that I picked up in January, but the thing that really sticks about the stock this time around is that these CPUs are priced $150 over the MSRP of $549 (which is what I was able to pay for mine). Right now you can walk into my local Micro Center, get a 5900x for $699......WTF?
The 5800x has been available at Micro Center on an almost constant basis the past 4-6 months and they are priced a bit under MSRP. Right now you can a 5800x at $429, about $20 under MSRP. And the 5600x was usually in stock (currently out of stock), but the price has always been MSRP $299.
Why has the price jumped up on the 5900x? Sure, it's been harder to come by, but what the hell is with the high price spike, Micro Center? Even during all the time the 5900x was scarce before this handful of CPUs available now, but the price was never over MSRP at Micro Center.
Has the MSRP price been pushed up on AMD CPUs? WTF is going on here? If that's the case, that's just gross.
pcmasterrrrrace9
Posts: 25 +10
I don't know if buyers and customers could see any kind of benefit after this major problem...
180% above MSRP, or 2.8x its $500 MSRP. I think you meant to say 280 percent not 180 percent markup. It works like this. 100 percent of say 500 = 500. 200 percent of 500 = 1000, 300 percent of 500 = 1500. Your charts all messed up.
This shortage has been around for 3+ years now. I was barely able to get a 1080 gtx off of nvidias site and the 1080 is not a new card. Nothing has changed since then. Only way to get a video card is to buy a new Dell with it built in.
This shortage has been around for 3+ years now. I was barely able to get a 1080 gtx off of nvidias site and the 1080 is not a new card. Nothing has changed since then. Only way to get a video card is to buy a new Dell with it built in.
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