Don't Buy a GPU Now: Wait for Next-Gen or Grab a Discount?

[WhoCaresAnymore]

You do have access to the Internet and Google right? Did you know you can actually search for factual information such as inflation charts while Trump was in office? Inflation shot up under Trump.

And you are telling us that one of his main campaign promises is a media lie?

What's it like being part of a cult of ignorance?

"google". Yeah, that's rich.... They had so much miss-information about Trump. Google is utterly political and LEFT.

 

[MarcusNumb]

Just wait, there's little sense to buy a new or second hand GPU now. The new gen GPUs will push the current gen's price lower, maybe a "good" value GPU will appear between 2 gens.

I'm waiting for the 8800xt but I'm not expecting it to be cheaper than 650 so I'll wait for the sale. What I hope is that AMD can introduce a great value GPU like the 5700xt in the good old days so we, the mid tier gamers, can cheer up a little bit.

 

[WhoCaresAnymore]

Just wait, there's little sense to buy a new or second hand GPU now. The new gen GPUs will push the current gen's price lower, maybe a "good" value GPU will appear between 2 gens.

I'm waiting for the 8800xt but I'm not expecting it to be cheaper than 650 so I'll wait for the sale. What I hope is that AMD can introduce a great value GPU like the 5700xt in the good old days so we, the mid tier gamers, can cheer up a little bit.

And you my friend, are a smart shopper.

 

[Branch]

I'll be sitting on my hands again. Watching for those new connectors to blow. ;P

 

[toooooot]

You are ignoring the elephant in the room, the incoming US tariffs. They will probably change the performance per dollar by a large percentage. Therefore buying a black Friday card isn't a bad idea...

I remember reading something about a company that assembles GPUs relocating from China recently.
More will follow if tariffs are enabled. Everything that is in high demand in the US will be made elsewhere.

 

[takaozo]

I remember reading something about a company that assembles GPUs relocating from China recently.
More will follow if tariffs are enabled. Everything that is in high demand in the US will be made elsewhere.

If and only if the tariffs do not apply to all imported goods.

For now I just got a new car. The PC can wait....

 

[WhoCaresAnymore]

Just remember, where there is a void or opportunity, something will fill that void. If Chinese goods ever became too expensive (they never will, so this is hypothetical), other countries will fill the void.

Not concerned at all.

 

[godrilla]

For reference the 7900xtx fell as low as $819.99 new
7900xt as low $619.99 new
4090 $1900 new due to eol supply and no where near MSRP even used on ebay.
4080 super at $949 with Indiana Jones game. Used pricing is no where near what's suggested in this article for purchasing at even 25% off.
Unfortunately the used market is no where near even the 25% off MSRP suggested in this article for purchase.
I will be tracking tarrifs and macro level affect from bottom up personally.
If there will be a lag between when Trump gets in office and actual Tarrif surcharge of 1 quarter or more on imported goods,then that will be the best time to purchase imo.
Some YouTubers suggest purchase now via Amazon if needed and if pricing drops or something comes out better performance per dollar you can return it at full refund within 3 months of purchase. If the tarrif surcharge is added then you just keep the item.
Also the unknown is how the used market will behave in 2025 onwards. I believe the sellers of current tech will probably win before potential tarrifs. I am hoping that tarrifs aren't added on the used market for double dipping.

Also there were talks of federal income taxes to be lowered to offset the tarrifs. If that is the case the delta out of pocket will probably be negligible.

 

[Trooper1023]

Or! How about we leave the bird brain moves to the pre COVID times, and make a real galaxy brain move!

NOBODY BUYS A BASE LINE 5000 series GPUs that isn't a 5090!

No, consumers either buy Radeon, discounted last gen NGREEDIA, or sit the year out and wait for the inevitable SUPER refresh!

Come on, look at the VRAM amounts on the non-90 GPUs! NGREEDIA pulled exactly this garbage with the 4000 series, then ran a SUPER refresh to bring the VRAM amounts up to where they belong for modern use cases.

100% guarantee NGREEDIA is going to do it all again!

 

[toooooot]

Just remember, where there is a void or opportunity, something will fill that void. If Chinese goods ever became too expensive (they never will, so this is hypothetical), other countries will fill the void.

Not concerned at all.

China will fight against tariffs. They will spend billions to lobby tariffs. Dozens of politicians will be criticizing tariffs every day till they are canceled.
But saying that, I still allow a possibility of very mild tariffs, limited products.

 

[CMP01]

My 7900xtx (MERC 310 $1179) is nearly 2 years old now...

I am so glad EVGA dropped out and forced me to look at other options, as the RTX4080 cant touch the XTX in the games I play and many who are in my clan/guild months later sold their 4090 (at a profit) to buy XTX, bcz it either matched, or bettered the 4090 in raster games.

Knowing, even if they gave up a few frames, the trade off was that the XTX didn't warm their whole house up and/or fry stuff. We are all waiting now for the Pro gaming card coming mid 25" using rdna5 and chiplet/HMB design.


We all know that RDNA is just better at gaming now (Consoles/handhelds/etc) than CUDA... which is Ai driven architecture now.



Right now if I was gaming at 1440p and looking to buy a GPU?

I would not hesitate in a moment to get my hands on a discounted 7900XT or XTX. I game at 3840x1600 and get ovr 230+ fps w/XTX, but at 1440p I was hitting/getting 300+ frames.

Likewise my 7900XTX (Sapphire Nitro+) most expensive model at £1070 late 2023.
This was when the pre Super refresh 4080's ranged from £1350 for low end/reference models (including some brands not a few ppl had to research first) to £2100 for the Asus, MSI etc models with a similar premium build aso as that Sapphire. They traded blows then, the AMD has a raster edge now and recent articles have also exposed that the vaunted RT gap adding price to Nvidia actually isn't all that. As if we didn't already know what with many Nvidia users admitting they don't use RT due to it's performance cost (yes, even with their flagship costing so much more) In fact, until just recently the 4090 held a £1600-2600 premium even after the 4080S dropped £500 or more. Right now, and on the eve of a new gen seeing ppl advising newcomers and upgraders alike to wait, the 4090 has just spiralled up again to just shy of 4 grand! Meanwhile the 7900XTX has dropped further still to range around the same price as the lower half of the 4070ti Supers!

For all this apparently (according to some possibly unreasonably biased opinion in other forums) AMD cards are still overwhelmingly hot, power hungry, loud or prone to breaking and have godawful drivers etc. Which is news to me (not least maybe ancient news long changed) given I've had a 6800XT since 2021 before that 7900XTX and certainly wouldn't have made that upgrade had things been anything but satisfactory. Fwiw I made that GPU upgrade because at 3440x1440 no CPU upgrade over my 5800X was a consistent uplift for the price but the 7900XTX was. Nothing wrong with the 6800XT (Sapphire Nitro+ SE, £1200 in May '21) but again, more a games industry/dev laziness/using cheap tricks to make up for a lack of proficiency to optimise like they used to etc. Imagine if I'd taken that 10Gb 3080 at twice the price then instead... I'd be more out of pocket and even more let down by now. Nothing has done me as proud re PC gaming/HW/upgrading so far this decade as taking a chance on AMD after a decade of Nvidia.

But yeah, the whole thing's been nuts since Ampere/RDNA2 dropped, with AMD being forced out of contention again after coming so far in almost as short a time as it took Ryzen to kick Intel into shape. Unfortunately It's only going to get more nuts when Blackwell drops with no contenders at the high end.

 

[m3tavision]

That^ is essentially the same for anyone who bought into RDNA.

Mockingly, the "fine wine" worked and Radeon's software suite (& graphic cards) become better for gamers than NVidia cards... (who were stuck using leftovr Volta Enterprise architecture meant for Ai), were now left with marketing gimmicks to sell RTX cards, instead of power/performance.

Anyone who bought a 6900xt for $649 back when the 3080 was $1,400 is the reason there are AMD fans.


CUDA is dead in gaming.

 

[trgz]

And if the new Indiana Jones game is anything to go by, a non-RTX card, but good performing budget card like the 7800 XT, is not worth the risk if this is a taste of the imminent future

 

[m3tavision]

AMD Radeon RX 8800 XT rumored to rival RTX 4080 with less power, mass production starts this month

AMD RDNA4 rumors suggest high-end raster performance and improved ray tracing The RX 8800 series looking good in rumors. Two reliable leakers from the Chiphell forums have come forward with early claims about next-gen AMD Radeon performance.

-per VideoCards.com

 

[Felusy]

AMD Radeon RX 8800 XT rumored to rival RTX 4080 with less power, mass production starts this month

AMD RDNA4 rumors suggest high-end raster performance and improved ray tracing The RX 8800 series looking good in rumors. Two reliable leakers from the Chiphell forums have come forward with early claims about next-gen AMD Radeon performance.

-per VideoCards.com

Haha, not going to happen. At most, they will match or slightly beat 5070 with 8800XT but only because Nvidia skimps hard on core count with 5070, only 6400 cores.

5070 Ti will be vastly faster than 5070 with almost 50% more cores plus bigger bus and more VRAM. I don't see AMD have anything to counter Nvidia above 5070. 5070 Ti and up will be untouchable, in terms of performance.

5070 is so weak they already made room for 5070 SUPER in the lineup...

It is very clear what Nvidia is trying to do:
5080 is very underpowered vs 5090. Like half core count, bus width and VRAM. Biggest difference between 80 and 90 we have ever seen.
5070 is vastly underpowered vs 5070 Ti.
Upselling, 101.

They know AMD will have nothing in higher end bracket.

8800XT won't reach 4080 raster performance for sure. 4070 Ti series and 7900XT at most. Price will be 499.

AMD would never have left high-end GPU market if they were able to deliver 4080 raster perf in a somewhat small die like 8800XT has. Don't hype 8800XT too much or you/people will be disappointed.

Only thing AMD needs to do, is do a flawless release with no bugs and proper drivers, and don't price them too high while improving FSR to hopefully match DLSS eventually.