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Download Windows 8.1 Preview: Start button returns, boot to desktop, better search and more

By Rick ยท 66 replies
Jun 26, 2013
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  1. Microsoft launched today its first ever public release of Windows 8.1, confirming what we already thought we knew: the return of the Start button (although the Start menu remains absent), the ability to boot directly to the desktop, better search...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,402   +5,021

    I'm watching the video, and still do not have any nagging desires to move from Windows 7. Out of all my years with MS, I have never been so negative with any of their releases.
    avoidz, Wendig0, Mugsy and 5 others like this.
  3. mevans336

    mevans336 TS Enthusiast Posts: 161   +11

    I would have to agree. I gave Windows 8 a 6 month try, even going to far as to purchase 3rd party utilities like Start8. I'm back on 7 and very happy.
    Wendig0 and cliffordcooley like this.
  4. EEatGDL

    EEatGDL TS Evangelist Posts: 693   +376

    I work with Windows 8 and IE 10 everyday in my job (tools exclusively work in IE) and just can't get used to it after a month of forced use; I have tried it since the DP for almost a year in total (DP, CP, retail) to no avail; just got mad when I saw that good third-party applications were charging for bringing back the Windows elements that are truly productive -all these transitions, animations, and gestures are all just a waste of time, a delay to do something in a series of basic keyboard steps.
    cliffordcooley likes this.
  5. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 1,006   +249

    I like Windows 8 quite a lot and enjoy using it, but I agree that the transitions take too long.
  6. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,402   +5,021

    Thats really not surprising. You can transition people into just about anything. But to try and force a change over night (especially a drastic one), really is not transitioning them at all. The lack of transitioning within the UI, has been the greatest disappointment of all.
  7. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,479   +3,037

    DirectX 11.2 is a surprise. Should we expect 11.2 video cards any time soon?
  8. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 1,006   +249

    I just meant the animation transitions that occur when going from place to place in Windows 8. You're right though, that Microsoft's biggest issue is simply that they didn't make the transition from what everyone was used to to the "new" way more seamless.
  9. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,944   +1,492

    They brought back the Start button but it changes nothing since there is no start menu. It is a nice upgrade from Windows 8 but not from Windows 7. IMO don't buy Windows 8, don't upgrade to 8.1 = save money = MS will be forced to give us back the start menu. You did it with Xbox One so it's possible.
  10. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 1,006   +249

    Eh, I don't want the start menu, so I'll keep using Win8 ;)
    spectrenad likes this.
  11. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 3,050   +1,384

    Wow, they added a button but not a menu. Does microsoft really suck that much at listening? For a company that only cares about the $$$$$, you'd think they'd listen in this case.
  12. Maximum Payne

    Maximum Payne TS Rookie

    There is also WDDM 1.3 that is only supported by amd 7000 series according to amd drivere preview.
  13. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,402   +5,021

    I've always voted for both, but then we all know what MS answer to that was. MS didn't want to burden us with the prospect of choices. The arrogance of MS thinking they are the only ones capable of making decisions is astonishing. You are insulting you own intelligence by further supporting Microsoft.
    Wendig0 likes this.
  14. Most of the video they hide the cursor, like to make us think it is a tablet or a touch screen. Whoever is trying in MS to force us into their damn tablet SO through our destop SO can go to hell.

    What is a tablet interface doing in a damn computer?
    avoidz likes this.
  15. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,286

    I reckon owners of GTX Titans don't wanna know the answer to that question.
    jetkami and VitalyT like this.
  16. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 3,160   +1,413

    Or maybe that means they don't really just care about the sales.
  17. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,479   +3,037

    Well, I'm not one of them, I'm one who's been ogling GTX 780, and now having second thoughts because of the news. I thought of starting to buy parts for my new rig for this fall when Windows 8.1 is released, but who would want to pocket out $650 for a card that won't support the latest DirectX. Doesn't sound that exciting anymore.

    But then there is another thing, there is no information on the web whatsoever about DirectX 11.2, not even rumors, makes it all even more unexpected a news...
  18. Paul Boland

    Paul Boland TS Rookie

    Note update only available us English at the moment it wont work if your in the uk or Ireland and also due to high demand there server has crashed
    I would wait a few days for iso files to become available and also UK and Ireland language version become available so you can use windows store to update as at the moment only English version available is for usa only
  19. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,402   +5,021

    I doubt there will be much difference to shake a stick at.
  20. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,479   +3,037

    Until the new games start coming out supporting it, which shouldn't take long. That, plus simply peace of mind, expected in the premium price range...
  21. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 605   +67

    "The preview includes a myriad of improvements and enhancements"

    That's like saying:

    "The preview includes a many of improvements and enhancements"

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to 8.1.
  22. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TS Booster Posts: 301   +62

    So far from the preview, it looks like it has potential, but right now it is having some performance issues. It also took it upon itself to reorganize/rename some things, and it deactivated and disable AVG (for Windows Defender). The search function also doesn't work as well as it should. I think I'll give it a few days and reinstall plain Windows 8 if it doesn't improve. I'm sure the minor issues will be worked out by the official release, but for now I'll be happy with a stable Windows 8.0 :)
    spectrenad likes this.
  23. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,482   +978

    DX 11.2? What is new?
  24. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,482   +978

  25. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,840   +1,268

    Except this part of the web presumably (Edit: ninja'ed by JC713 :) )
    Now? The GTX 780 doesn't support the full DX11.1 specification...
    Bear in mind that the features that aren't supported are mainly Direct2D orientated (16xMSAA and Target-Independent rasterization support in 2D applications) not Direct3D.
    I wouldn't be overly worried that it doesn't fully support the feature levels of 11_1 and 11_2. D3DX 11.1 was introduced ten months ago. Number of games using (let alone requiring) 11.1....Nil.

    Of course, as a marketing tool it is bound to fire up a new round of graphics card purchases for those with a need for speed bullet points
    Jad Chaar, Lionvibez and VitalyT like this.

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