European Union mandates speed limiters on all new cars to enhance road safety

[Baldrickalpha1]

While I think a speed limiter in theory is a good thing, the technology is still too immature to be enforced.

Here in Scotland we have signs that give you a heads up the speed limit is reducing shortly (say dropping to 30mph from 60mph from 300 yards ahead before entering a village), and the tech thinks the first sign IS the new limit, as it has a number in a red circle, just like the actual limit sign. This would force me to slow down before the actual change, which might cause accidents at the points where the limit drops.

Another situation is in urban areas where it changes as you turn a corner into a new zone, and because the sign is on the inside corner, the car doesn't see the sign, and misses the change in limit, which might mean people going too fast or too slow.

Until these edge cases are sorted, I could only support a hard upper limit, like 85mph for example since our limits only go as high as 70mph, giving enough room to overtake as needed.

Any enforcement of lower needs to encompass all situations, so as not to cause some cars not to be able to drive at the correct speed.

 

[Zcolor]

I drove a commercial Class A vehicle from 2-1993, to 6-2023 retiring last year. In that entire time, the dangerous drivers of all vehicles on the highways, went from 60%, to 95% a few years before I retired in June of 2023!!

There is absolutely a need for any kind of way, in slowing you danderous fools down...

 

[VectorVortec]

I'm fine with this too. I have been in 25 car crashes. Im not even that old yet lol, under 40. Half of these were in a taxi, being hit by others. It was proven too, by cameras and the police. The other ones were while I was with friends or family, not speeding or anything. Every single issue I have was because of people driving way too fast. Too fast to react on time. Some were drunk while speeding. It's not a joke that my country is one of the leading ones in Europe with the most dead on the streets. It's a war zone out here. I also saw MANY times motorbikes crashing into kids, moms, stores... driving with 150. They often die too. Always under 30... Dying that young is insane to me. What is this? The middle ages?!

Honestly, if you drive with that much inside a city, 25 years of jail time. Is it bad? What's worse? Dying VS 25 years of jail? You pick, but something has to be done. People don't smart up. It's a major issue worldwide too.

P.s. My aunt got hit by a car 2 times, I was hit by a car 3 times, my body.. not while I was seated inside a car (1 time when I was 13 btw!!) my best friend got hit, my teacher got hit, my cousin got hit... should I go on? It's very common.

Wow, I haven't been in a wreck in 25 years and that was a fender bender where the total damage was $130.00. These things wouldn't have helped with that wreck. It seems that some people need these things, but it is an unnecessary waste of time an money for those that know how to drive.

 

[Puiu]

You should be a straight jacket sitting in the back of an autonomous vehicle IMO.

If it is a good car then why not? I drive in Bucharest, you don't seem to understand at all why I want these safety features.

 

[VaRmeNsI]

Eventually if you commit thought crime they can limit the car to 0 while the police are called.

 

[Homerlovesbeer]

No more *****s driving 140 km/h in urban zone (50 km/h)? Can't wait!

You're so naive if you think this is going to solve a problem I bet very rarely happens. I think you need to comprehend that this is yet another form of control disguised as a so called "safety initiative".

 

[Jerry in WA]

My car has a speed limiter. When I exceed the limit, it changes the HUD's speed display from white text to orange text and the speed limit sign in the HUD starts flashing.

It's really not a big deal / big brother / something to fear.

 

[Vanderlinde]

Wouldn't they shoot themselves in the foot. All those exotic cars exports and the vat . This will just make older cars more attractive and and probably a short term hysteria to purchase those vehicles before this is implemented. Now they have new cars with speed limiters and older cards zooming by. The criminals will just mod thier cars as possibility as well.

EU is known for it's step by step tactics to a finally closing dictatorship in regards of power, control.

You might get used to ISA today, tomorrow there will be a hard limit on new cars being sold in regards of maximum speed or even not allowing you to exceed the speeds anymore.

It most likely benefits insurance company's - they spend tons of cash to lobby around the EU and get a european wide thing in their benefit. EU has been always about control and esp not democratic.

Exotic cars will run out at some point - as cars, parts etc get less on a daily basis even. I remember buying a 600HP RS4 which back then only costed around 12k. 3 years later you could not find the same model for less then 25 to 35k.

And now they are likely within the 45 to 60k range. Insurance is not going to cover the full price in the case of an event.

Yes it might save lives - yes it might lower emissions - but be damned if I am not able to accelerate in the event of a collision to get away from it.

 

[Bluue]

Oh yeah? And that will be geofenced outside the autobahns that don't have speed limits?

 

[McMurdeR]

If the implementation is good I don't have a problem with it. But it's dependent on the car's mapping data, the quality of the road signs and the ability of the car to read them.

I had a car with an early implementation - it was possible for the car to aggressively apply the brakes if you turned it on while over the limit - I don't like that at all.

 

[godrilla]

EU is known for it's step by step tactics to a finally closing dictatorship in regards of power, control.

You might get used to ISA today, tomorrow there will be a hard limit on new cars being sold in regards of maximum speed or even not allowing you to exceed the speeds anymore.

It most likely benefits insurance company's - they spend tons of cash to lobby around the EU and get a european wide thing in their benefit. EU has been always about control and esp not democratic.

Exotic cars will run out at some point - as cars, parts etc get less on a daily basis even. I remember buying a 600HP RS4 which back then only costed around 12k. 3 years later you could not find the same model for less then 25 to 35k.

And now they are likely within the 45 to 60k range. Insurance is not going to cover the full price in the case of an event.

Yes it might save lives - yes it might lower emissions - but be damned if I am not able to accelerate in the event of a collision to get away from it.

I wonder if these speed limiters will also be trackers for maximum overreach.

 

[Shaitan]

So instead of tackling the out of control immigration, lack of competitive industries, the intrusive backdoors in communication standards and the sharp decline of quality of life throughout Europe, plus the Russian threatening the democracy and the European way of life, the wise men and women in Brussels just want to limit the speed of the cars. Right.
So no relaxing the taxes for the enterprises willing to invest here, no tax refunds for startups or helping hand for entrepreneurs, no better conditions and better and FASTER transportation, but REDUCED speeds and INCREASED 1984 Orwellian state?
Unless these far-right m0r0ns would be Putin's puppets, I'd vote WITHOUT REMORSE with sovereign conservatives, just to bring the delusional elites down.
In the first moment when I'll have a Ukraininan-supporting NATIONALIST/LIBERTARIAN party or movement, I'm ALL IN.
Let's see how the elites will do when evereyone will start voting AfD, Le Pen and so on, because of the nanny state.
Focusing on diversity and $exual preferences instead of the acute economic issues? OK, people will vote UKIP or whatever party will promise to focus on JOBS, ECONOMY and SECURITY, not on unicorns and illegals.
EUROPE first. NOT elite liberals first.

 

[Vanderlinde]

Oh yeah? And that will be geofenced outside the autobahns that don't have speed limits?

There will likely be good tuners who are able to remove such limits, notices, warnings and such.

I wonder if these speed limiters will also be trackers for maximum overreach.

They can be used in the event of a accident. The insurance company can legally demand data from your ECU and even decline coverage since it logged that you drove faster then what the limit was.

EUROPE first. NOT elite liberals first.

The whole EU Commission is not democratic - let alone choosen by countries - it can ignore held referendums and make laws without countries their voting.

 

[p51d007]

More control...shoot, I'm surprised they don't use GPS to give you a ticket if you are 1mph/kph over the limit & tax you based on how much you drive.
I don't use all that automatic garbage. I'm one of those that was taught in the early 70's that YOU are responsible to operate a motor vehicle...not some @%^)& computer!

 

[scavengerspc]

If it is a good car then why not? I drive in Bucharest, you don't seem to understand at all why I want these safety features.

Not knowing the facts rarely has an effect on opinion.

 

[nboccan]

I'm ok with this. It's not overly intrusive and I see way too many people who have no idea what speed they are going at since they barely look at their dashboard.

Pushing back against the accelerator and or vibrating is about as overly intrusive as you can get. This is just more pointless legislation made by empty fancy suits sitting in nice chairs.

 

[nboccan]

I see you have no idea to whom these *****ic systems are intended to.
Belgians drink themselves under the table and afterwards drive home.
And kill other Belgians riding bikes home.

And how exactly is this going to stop any drunk driver from driving, anywhere?...

 

[nboccan]

I'm fine with this too. I have been in 25 car crashes. Im not even that old yet lol, under 40. Half of these were in a taxi, being hit by others. It was proven too, by cameras and the police. The other ones were while I was with friends or family, not speeding or anything. Every single issue I have was because of people driving way too fast. Too fast to react on time. Some were drunk while speeding. It's not a joke that my country is one of the leading ones in Europe with the most dead on the streets. It's a war zone out here. I also saw MANY times motorbikes crashing into kids, moms, stores... driving with 150. They often die too. Always under 30... Dying that young is insane to me. What is this? The middle ages?!

Honestly, if you drive with that much inside a city, 25 years of jail time. Is it bad? What's worse? Dying VS 25 years of jail? You pick, but something has to be done. People don't smart up. It's a major issue worldwide too.

P.s. My aunt got hit by a car 2 times, I was hit by a car 3 times, my body.. not while I was seated inside a car (1 time when I was 13 btw!!) my best friend got hit, my teacher got hit, my cousin got hit... should I go on? It's very common.

Sounds like wherever you live needs an overhaul of the driver license program and jail/fines for infractions. An overly intrusive speed limiter like this is not going to help any of your problems is no one there can drive to begin with.

 

[nboccan]

I drove a commercial Class A vehicle from 2-1993, to 6-2023 retiring last year. In that entire time, the dangerous drivers of all vehicles on the highways, went from 60%, to 95% a few years before I retired in June of 2023!!

There is absolutely a need for any kind of way, in slowing you danderous fools down...

60-95% of what?..

 

[Crunch]

I guess many people will have to depart to work much earlier than they are used to.

Yeah, like 10 seconds earlier.

 

[d0x360]

I'm ok with this. It's not overly intrusive and I see way too many people who have no idea what speed they are going at since they barely look at their dashboard.

Oh yeah? And that will be geofenced outside the autobahns that don't have speed limits?

Oh no they will just add speed limits to the entire Autobahn. Speeding doesn't kill people bad driving, inattentive driving.. those are what cause accidents.

This nanny feature will become a hard limit a few years after this regulation goes into effect which will be enough time for people to begin buying their next vehicle.

No thanks. Id become a criminal happily finding a way to disable with a piece of tape along with any other needed modifications in future versions.

I've never been in an accident while I was driving and I've been driving fast as I please for 25 years

 

[bigd5783]

At this point just mandate full self driving. What's next? A little chime that pops up and just deducts money from your bank account whenever you break a traffic law? Just mandate full self driving for everyone and get rid of the ***** factor.

 

[richalone442]

No thank you. I don't need some nagging car telling me how to drive. We all have to pass a driver's test and I know how to read speed limit road signs. I used to park cars for a valet company and it was so annoying to have the occasional car auto brake when I was backing into a spot and still had plenty of room. The sound was horrendous and scared me every time. These mandated systems are just more technology to be repaired, go out of date and add to the cost. Nanny state at it again. What's next? Regulating how much and what foods you eat? They'd probably save more lives trying to enact a food consumption limit.

I think they already are looking for a way to control our out of control eating, regulating the size of your Soda Pop you can buy, in places I won't mention.
Doesn't anyone with a brain understand, this is why cars are so high(and of coarse the outrageous wages the UAW gets), the average man can't afford a new car, Henry Ford is spinning in his grave.....
Funny thing is, if Biden is reelected, all those UAW jobs go away, as, you don't need people to not build engine, drive train. Just a chassis, batteries, and a body, maybe 1/3 the jobs.....

 

[wizardB]

So instead of tackling the out of control immigration, lack of competitive industries, the intrusive backdoors in communication standards and the sharp decline of quality of life throughout Europe, plus the Russian threatening the democracy and the European way of life, the wise men and women in Brussels just want to limit the speed of the cars. Right.
So no relaxing the taxes for the enterprises willing to invest here, no tax refunds for startups or helping hand for entrepreneurs, no better conditions and better and FASTER transportation, but REDUCED speeds and INCREASED 1984 Orwellian state?
Unless these far-right m0r0ns would be Putin's puppets, I'd vote WITHOUT REMORSE with sovereign conservatives, just to bring the delusional elites down.
In the first moment when I'll have a Ukraininan-supporting NATIONALIST/LIBERTARIAN party or movement, I'm ALL IN.
Let's see how the elites will do when evereyone will start voting AfD, Le Pen and so on, because of the nanny state.
Focusing on diversity and $exual preferences instead of the acute economic issues? OK, people will vote UKIP or whatever party will promise to focus on JOBS, ECONOMY and SECURITY, not on unicorns and illegals.
EUROPE first. NOT elite liberals first.

Those immigrants are there to start trouble to make the sheep let the government have more control of their lives for the appearance of safety. All you have to do is look at things the EU governing body says to understand they want total control of everything in you life..including how long you live.

 

[Vanderlinde]

Chaos is benefiting those who orchestrate it in the first place.