Ford employees want company to stop making police vehicles, CEO refuses

QuantumPhysics

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Most of the shootings that every white person/Faux News wants to bring up are specifically between black gang members.

The black community as a whole is not a gang.
The black community as a whole is more worried about police violence than they are about black
black gang violence because black gang violence is more like Darwinism: they will ultimately kill each other and in many cases they will not get the chance to kill innocents who stay away from them.

The black community is worried more about police brutality because it doesn’t matter if you are middle class or rich, you still end up having encounters with the police.

George Floyd was not a gang member and he was murdered on camera by a POS PIG.
 

vhfan

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Objectively it is racist and Marxist. You have equality, stop trying to act like it's still the 70s. Statistics do not support these people. **** happens it's tragic, but I am not losing sleep over a drunk man on drugs committing a crime and then resisting arrest and getting a beat down.
ACCOUNTABILITY it's important.
It's just like saying and quoting about white privilege, it doesn't exist, it's a term thrown around by people without accounting for reality.

"Statistics do not support these people"

BINGO

Every statistic and data chart going back years proves that "WHITES" are shot at double the rate of blacks even though blacks have far more confrontations with police.

The entire narrative is a LIE .

We don't have a police problem we have a NON COMPLIANCE problem.

The below is courtesy of African American Lloyd Marcus:

Black Lives Matter is a well-funded vile hate-generating terrorist group. Their movement was founded on the lie that black criminal Michael Brown was shot with his hands up surrendering to a police officer. The truth is Brown was shot while attacking the police officer, attempting to take his gun. These facts are public record, and yet, ignored by the Left. Black Lives Matter is pure evil folks.


 

wiyosaya

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He was saying "I can't breathe" long before they took him to the ground. He resisted arrest for six minutes and unfortunately one of the cops on the scene had a personal grudge against Floyd. All this black ex-con who was caught passing bad checks needed to do was comply and he'd still be alive. That's the hard but inarguable reality. Chauvin is almost certainly guilty of excessive force leading to a death, but Floyd created the situation.
Yes, he did. However, you forgot to mention taking that out-of-context - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...Minneapolis. Jerry Holt / Star Tribune via AP
"While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe," the document said.

A medical examination found that Floyd had coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.
So I assume that you think that he started saying that just for giggles. His autopsy and medical conditions indicate that he was likely telling the truth.

Keep listening to Fix News. You'll get the full story from them for sure! :facepalm:
 
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wiyosaya

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"Statistics do not support these people"

BINGO

Every statistic and data chart going back years proves that "WHITES" are shot at double the rate of blacks even though blacks have far more confrontations with police.

The entire narrative is a LIE .

We don't have a police problem we have a NON COMPLIANCE problem.

The below is courtesy of African American Lloyd Marcus:

Black Lives Matter is a well-funded vile hate-generating terrorist group. Their movement was founded on the lie that black criminal Michael Brown was shot with his hands up surrendering to a police officer. The truth is Brown was shot while attacking the police officer, attempting to take his gun. These facts are public record, and yet, ignored by the Left. Black Lives Matter is pure evil folks.
Got a link to support that?
 
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Reehahs

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Yes it is. In fact it is one of the causes behind why we can't let go of our hatred for each other. People thinking their time is worth more than anyone else's is the most arrogant aspect of our culture. The larger the pay divide the more we fight at the bottom of the pay scale. It even effects product quality. Creating a divide between who can afford quality merchandise. Blacks are not upset because of their color. They are upset because they are at the bottom of the ladder. Their anger is misplaced.
Capitalism has its own issues, let's not conflate those with racism issues. Racist organisational culture may seem no difference then cut-throat capitalist one on the surface but the impacts are far more concentrated. Throw in classism in the mix to really make it cloudy to separate issues.
 

woofer

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While I may not agree that Ford should stop making vehicles for the police I much more strongly disagree with many of the things being said in this thread... the main ones being:

and:

I tend to stay away from posting my opinions on these types of topics while on my favorite tech forum but there is a lot of ignorance and a huge lack of empathy and self reflection happening on this one in particular. BLM is about the differences in how blacks are looked at, regarded, and treated by the police. It is not equal and NEVER has been. Black folks in the US have been fighting for equality since before I was born. These arguments are the same now as they were back then. You can't live in your bubble of privilege where everything is great and smells rosy and then say "You can smell the same things too if you try hard enough". The reasons you see things the way you do is because of the imbalances that have existed for many, many years. If you could just take a few minutes and watch/listen to the following videos I hope it might help you understand some of these issues.




And if you're willing to read just one article

https://www.history.com/news/red-summer-1919-riots-chicago-dc-great-migration - keep in mind that this is 100 years ago during the Spanish Flu epidemic

There is a lot more you should take the time to review before deciding you know how it is for everyone. There is only so much you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about your current mindset or what you've been taught.
"If your top priority is understanding racism better, or addressing an incident involving race, or righting a wrong caused by racism, don’t let the top priority suddenly become avenging your wounded pride if the conversation has you feeling defensive. When you start to feel defensive, stop and ask yourself why." - Ijeoma Oluo
Then you might need to read/hear what black conservatives think, say and do at uncletom.com (named in admiration of a fictitious black who helped slaves escape in Harriet Beecher Stowe's abolitionist novel).
 
Most of the shootings that every white person/Faux News wants to bring up are specifically between black gang members.

The black community as a whole is not a gang.
The black community as a whole is more worried about police violence than they are about black
black gang violence because black gang violence is more like Darwinism: they will ultimately kill each other and in many cases they will not get the chance to kill innocents who stay away from them.

The black community is worried more about police brutality because it doesn’t matter if you are middle class or rich, you still end up having encounters with the police.

George Floyd was not a gang member and he was murdered on camera by a POS PIG.
I forgot, statistics only matter for your argument.

FBI statistics are wrong because it doesn't fit your narrative.

72% fatherless households are wrong because it doesn't fit your narrative.

"Just gang members."

Get back to your day job of telling everyone on this site what you want manufacturers to build for you and contribute literally **** all to the conversation, ever.
 
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Rayneofpayne

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Yeah, blame that all on BLM. Why not the white, extremist boogaloo but WTF. Keep viewing the world from that padded cell.
It not about blame unless people make it about themselves like this movement has. Fixing a situation is very different from blame. The problem is society.
 

Rayneofpayne

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This is a tiresome view point, which is a greater issue than racism.
CEOs aren't the problem, it's the stock market and board members/investment firms that demand money and are willing to tank entire industries and companies in order to suck as much out of them before moving on the next one. Employees suffer from low wages versus a company posting large dividins to make their company more attractive to investors, or you have such a percentage disparity between the highest to lowest paid employees that the company can't sustain itself as the labor force ends up being the lowest/most desperate bracket of workers.
 
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Rayneofpayne

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Most of the shootings that every white person/Faux News wants to bring up are specifically between black gang members.

The black community as a whole is not a gang.
The black community as a whole is more worried about police violence than they are about black
black gang violence because black gang violence is more like Darwinism: they will ultimately kill each other and in many cases they will not get the chance to kill innocents who stay away from them.

The black community is worried more about police brutality because it doesn’t matter if you are middle class or rich, you still end up having encounters with the police.

George Floyd was not a gang member and he was murdered on camera by a POS PIG.
He was high, drunk, committed a crime and resisted arrest, skin color doesn't matter, he deserved the beatdown.
Stop being a POS society and maybe just maybe people wouldn't put themselves into the position of dying.
Floyd died to respiratory failure due to an overdose of Fentanyl. I have no sympathy regardless of the man's skin color, tragic yes. Fix the problem clean your house before blaming others, get an education the most powerful man in Washington is Black, his name is Colin Powell, he won't run for president, because of the situation like Obama, where he was elected more based on skin color rather than qualification, which is racist he doesn't tolerate that nonsense.