GeForce RTX 3080 Ti vs. Radeon RX 6800 XT

Rdmetz

Posts: 335   +162
Just a shot in the dark but you wouldn’t be able to include minecraft RTX benchmarks? They are very difficult to find but it will be the driving factor as to which is the next GPU I will buy. Minecraft is the worlds most popular game of all time after all.

And that won’t be either of these cards. Over £1000 for a gaming card is absurd and just not worth it.

I think most gamers are like this. It’s miners who are buying from scalpers. Until the miners ease up it looks like gamers will just have to go without.

Getting Steve to do any game that's heavily dxr focused is like pulling teeth though I will admit seeing him include metro enhanced is a big surprise and it's also nice to see him finally admitting that the ampere gpu's overall are a much better value compared to their rdna2 counterparts.

But I believe that's likely him just "reading the room" as his opinion has tended to do over the years.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar as they say.
 

MaxSmarties

Posts: 507   +295
The difference with raytracing is embarrassing...
AMD is paying the dumb decision not to implement raytracing hardware in 5700 series...
Now they are a full generation behind. They are competitive at 1080P thanks to the infinity cache, but at 1440P and 4K, the 256bit bus in again another dumb decision.
 

Mr Majestyk

Posts: 928   +821
The difference with raytracing is embarrassing...
AMD is paying the dumb decision not to implement raytracing hardware in 5700 series...
Now they are a full generation behind. They are competitive at 1080P thanks to the infinity cache, but at 1440P and 4K, the 256bit bus in again another dumb decision.

Talk is cheap I know, but reports RDNA3 will enormously ramp up performance of RT. It might not match Lovelace but should beat Ampere and close the huge chasm in performance.
 

alexnode

Posts: 71   +21
Gosh, I clicked the amazon link redirected to the UK...cheapest 3080ti is 2k, they are not getting a penny from me.
Some constructive (Yet I'm aware, unsolicited) feedback: We know prices are bad right now. We also know it's not going to get better until at least a year from now more or less. Yet we also know you built your channel on the strength of hardware reviews and comparison videos.

Just state that and point out "Here are the numbers for those lucky to find at MSRP and for future reference" We don't need to encourage *anyone* to go "I'm tired of waiting I'm paying 2-3x MSRP right now" because guess what? If enough people listen to this even reluctantly then that's the new MSRP with or without shortages or miners: That's going to be the new normal in 1 year if you ever tell people "Well it sucks but it if you don't want to wait..." Just do the responsible, consumer advocacy stance of saying "Here are the numbers but you absolutely should not buy them, it's just a bad idea for everyone overall if you buy"
 
True that pretty much all legit stores and sites are now scalpers. I mean, outside of availability issues or those with fairer prices but long queues aso.
For my case, I'd both reached my 5 year max upgrade window since last build in 2016 and old PC was ever an uncompleted, unused for years WiP (due to illness) that hadn't done well out of long storage. I decided what the hell, I deserved something good for the times I've been through.

Looked at the prebuild/custom route in April but seems everybody jumped on that one. A GPU from either side, while closer to MSRP than anywhere else, was a two plus month wait and a case of 'you might have to settle for whatever model we eventually get'. So after weeks of watching prices I decided to compromise on a custom build minus GPU I'd source elsewhere.

That same night, availability flagged up on the card that was my AMD first choice before the madness. Sure, this 6800XT was £1200 but...
3080's were starting at £1800, going up to £2400 for a similarly premium model/my Nvidia first choice (6900XT's starting at £1600, 3070's £1400 and up)
Despite those prices, Nvidia ones were all pre-order, zero availability for weeks.
Trades blows before RT/DLSS, which are still only an advantage, especially at the above premium, if you can make good use of them (similar applies to FSR) Still few games supported across both, of which I have 2-3 out of a library of 300. Not enough to decide a buy yet, certainly not at 50% more.
Nm that DLSS, where applicable and at the high end, serves to boost perf where that anemic 10Gb maxes out (currently in some games at 3440x1440, in which my 6800XT still has 3Gb overhead to handle my 4K TV)
Drivers on par, lower power draw, less heat... all good.

AMD are rn pretty much doing on the GPU front what they've done with Ryzen. It's their first time trading blows all the way up the stack (sans magic tricks) in a long time, and only a harder slog cos Nvidia have the hype, mind share advantage and massive resources.
For all the above, I'll give this 2-3 years then look again but rn it's all a mess but not only cos MSRP is a myth.