Huawei has spent billions on a 2-year stockpile of American chips

Nobonita Barua

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300 million much wealthier people, only around 15% of China's population has the purchasing power that's closer to Western Europe, Canada, USA and Japan, S. Korea when it comes to buying technology. Most of the handhelds Huwaii sells in China are very budget models, which means your lucky if your making $5-10 per handset, then you have Apple selling millions of devices in the USA and Europe and making well over $100 per device (even the budget models. Losing out on the US market for electronics is a huge hit to Huwaii, Apple losing out on China hurts but also leaves the USA market even more open for them.
No not exactly.
EU, Japan, South Korea is highly advanced. No one disputes that. They are benchmark of quality.
However I like the way you threw USA in the bunch. USA doesn't come even remotely close to EU, let alone Japan, SK in quality of life style & other staffs. It's basically combo of 2-3 shiny cities in New York & others are south sudan type, & ghettos where people live by trash can.
 

toooooot

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Very nice script. I take it took long to make this Hollywood script by free people, of free people,. for people , make sure you pay your chosen government for doing their job of giving you internet to post your script.
Why is it that every fake americans, standing on the dead bodies of native peoples, always point fingers to other's history? Is it a distraction method to hide the real history of "free pirates looting others for freedom"? Or is it you are securing your nation's security that actually never existed.
You know, whenever fake americans give me BS of democracy, it remind me of the thug company that looted others,then started to "vote" to choose who is going to be their leader for their "security".
I am a slave to my country, slave of truth,what are you? The freedom pirate? In my country I am slave, in your "country" the country & the government is slave to you I guess? I would rather be a slave then being a th-ug, lo-oter & pirate of freedom. which one you want to be?
You forgot to clear to us those matters. Let us hear it loud & clear
You said:
"I would rather be a slave then being a th-ug, lo-oter & pirate of freedom. which one you want to be? "

Pirate, all the way. :D

Do you know what being a slave means? Or at least what it meant for living under communist regime. They dont just take your freedom. They take your land, money, even your ability to make money and getting rich. Furthermore, they take your body, forcing you to work where they tell you, they could even take your woman if someone higher in the ranks than you liked her. It was very easy actually, today you are a foreign spy, and tomorrow your love follows you behind the bars.

No. My experience and possibly my attitude comes from living in a communist country (empire) or rather the remains of it when it fell from its clay feet crashing all the military power it accumulated in 74 years. I am a history junky, so I have read hundred of books of that period.

Force-feeding through the nose, long and exhausting questioning at night for days, draining you of every bit of your energy, prison food that pretty much destroys your health forever, and of course the system that when you are finished with your sentence, you are not allow to get anywhere to get a good job. Those are among other things people who openly fought communism in Russia went through. And that is after Stalin. During the fair brave and stunning leader, everyone opposing the regime was just shoot in the back of a had, or crashed with a tractor(these people had quite imagination when it came to killing people). China closely followed its then bigger brother.

You would rather be a slave? Seriously? You cant be a human when you don't have your freedom. You think USA has a terrible history? Communists starved tens of millions people for their illusive ideas. They had best torturers, ruining the lives of those they decided not to kill. Even their best scientist and generals when through imprisonment and beating. They have committed such evil that even today they dont talk about those much. And when I say that China is extremely evil, I mean it. They disregard human life when it stand in their way on such a large scale that of course, they have to hide it. They hide it just like Russian communists did it. And when you speak lies for a long time, people start to believe. there are millions of people in Russia who sincerely believe USSR was a great place to live. They take out those old newspapers and movies showing all the good things people could afford back then. Only it was never like that. how do I know? Maybe be because my grandparents told about how life was back then? Where ideas of communism came, it only brought death and slavery. China isn't communist much, but a ruthless dictatorship it is.
And to sum it up, my comment is more about China than it is about freedom.
Lying thieving scumbags, torturing and killing their people and the minorities that happen to live on their territory. And their expansion can not bring anything good to their people or the countries that foolishly agreed to share their knowledge in return for free cheap labor. And Huawei isn't just guilty. they are guilty in a way a criminal is smiling and saying: "you haven't caught me, watcha gonna ? I know you have laws, so try to catch me according to those."
They literally take advantage of the western systems and regulations to their gain and the expansion of their monstrous regime. So if by luck they get caught, they must lose not only their contracts, but everything we can take from them!
We have problems in USA, we are a multicultural multiracial country with a history of slavery. But the way China operates compared to USA is a nightmare. The parasite will not stop expanding and just like a virus it will devour everything on it's way until it is stopped. I say we stop it before it is too late.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Do you know what being a slave means?
I know. It means recognizing that I am nothing but just a part of Mother Nature. It is recognizing when I try to be "free" I impact entire ecosystem for my selfish reason. It means I have to recognize truth regardless of I like it or not.
Or at least what it meant for living under communist regime.
We can turn back the clock and ask the native people what's the price of freedom.
just take your freedom
Like you did? From native americans? Like you preached in Iraq, Afghanisthan, Libya, Syria, Or during Korean or vietnam war?
They take your land, money, even your ability to make money and getting rich. Furthermore, they take your body, forcing you to work where they tell you, they could even take your woman if someone higher in the ranks than you liked her. It was very easy actually, today you are a foreign spy, and tomorrow your love follows you behind the bars.

No. My experience and possibly my attitude comes from living in a communist country (empire) or rather the remains of it when it fell from its clay feet crashing all the military power it accumulated in 74 years. I am a history junky, so I have read hundred of books of that period.

Force-feeding through the nose, long and exhausting questioning at night for days, draining you of every bit of your energy, prison food that pretty much destroys your health forever, and of course the system that when you are finished with your sentence, you are not allow to get anywhere to get a good job. Those are among other things people who openly fought communism in Russia went through. And that is after Stalin. During the fair brave and stunning leader, everyone opposing the regime was just shoot in the back of a had, or crashed with a tractor(these people had quite imagination when it came to killing people). China closely followed its then bigger brother.

You would rather be a slave? Seriously? You cant be a human when you don't have your freedom. You think USA has a terrible history? Communists starved tens of millions people for their illusive ideas. They had best torturers, ruining the lives of those they decided not to kill. Even their best scientist and generals when through imprisonment and beating. They have committed such evil that even today they dont talk about those much. And when I say that China is extremely evil, I mean it. They disregard human life when it stand in their way on such a large scale that of course, they have to hide it. They hide it just like Russian communists did it. And when you speak lies for a long time, people start to believe. there are millions of people in Russia who sincerely believe USSR was a great place to live. They take out those old newspapers and movies showing all the good things people could afford back then. Only it was never like that. how do I know? Maybe be because my grandparents told about how life was back then? Where ideas of communism came, it only brought death and slavery. China isn't communist much, but a ruthless dictatorship it is.
And to sum it up, my comment is more about China than it is about freedom.
Lying thieving scumbags, torturing and killing their people and the minorities that happen to live on their territory. And their expansion can not bring anything good to their people or the countries that foolishly agreed to share their knowledge in return for free cheap labor. And Huawei isn't just guilty. they are guilty in a way a criminal is smiling and saying: "you haven't caught me, watcha gonna ? I know you have laws, so try to catch me according to those."
They literally take advantage of the western systems and regulations to their gain and the expansion of their monstrous regime. So if by luck they get caught, they must lose not only their contracts, but everything we can take from them!
We have problems in USA, we are a multicultural multiracial country with a history of slavery. But the way China operates compared to USA is a nightmare. The parasite will not stop expanding and just like a virus it will devour everything on it's way until it is stopped. I say we stop it before it is too late.
Wrote a nice essay there. Did you pay your government to write this for you? After all your goverment is your slave , right?
Here me out loud & clear, Don't feel for me. Because I sure don't feel for th-ugs & loo-ters like you.
You again didn't answer my question
Why is that Freedom always has to survive on other's blood like a parasite? Why is it that there is not a single example in human history that Freedom was born & survived itself?
You said:
"I would rather be a slave then being a th-ug, lo-oter & pirate of freedom. which one you want to be? "

Pirate, all the way.
That's what I wanted to know, My fake American friend.

Here is my response, you want to have freedom? You can have it, unlimited amount of it. But, we are going to take that land of Native Americans. Freedom can be unlimited, but the resources, they are limited, right?
So you keep freedom, we will keep the land & resources.
Don't worry, we will wipe the freedom parasite clean off it's existence. Sit tight.
You think we don't see your desire to continue your freeloading lifestyle to feast on global resources under pro-pa-gan-da of freedom? So cute & naive.
Those lines are way outdated fake american. Need to bring something new on the market.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Freedom is not the parasite.
It has been, all along. Or countries like United States, hub of adult entertainment would not have existed.
It's freedom from parasites
Technically both has same meaning considering freedom is born out of parasite called human desire.
You are placing the cost of blood on the wrong end of the scale.
Did I?
In that case I believe you should have no problem to put that freedom on the line & still have the belief to come out on top?

I am asking for global voting on United States & European country's nuclear arsenals.

Your good friend tooooot has been feeling so much for Chinese "slave" people. I am asking for Chinese people what kind of government they want, which I am pretty sure you too want?

But before that,I also want the Chinese people to have the freedom to vote on ,if they want United States & north America which was land of native american,to be integrated in Chinese land.

I am also asking for people in south, south east,east Asia to vote,if they want to take & integrate European countries land as theirs considering the European colonized them before.

Let's give freedom a true chance.

Don't like it?
That's the problem with freedom.
You want me to be free, in the way you want me to be free. Otherwise you are going to say "choice has consequences". It is that consequence you have been trying to avoid of your past.

You see, freedom is it's own deterrence. That's why the current "freedom lovers" only want it to be unidirectional.
Next time you want to play this game, you should know, I have graduated in this game before you were born.
We are the only nation on earth in modern history(probably in entire history) to give bl00d to talk in our own language, 21st February 1952. Do you know the history behind it? Why is it called international Mother Language day?
We have seen freedom changing it's color back & forth, sent it's armada to save it's ally west Pakistan when they committing geno-cide against our people here.
We have fought for our own independence. 3 million d!ed. 2 hundred thousand mo-thers & si-sters lost their honor.
I am very sure in which side of the scale I am placing the cost of blood on.
Don't you dare lecture me on freedom of BSing. You are still kid in that game.

You want us to be "free". We want to be. At expense of USA & EU. Reply me back when you agree on that price. We don't really consider a world with USA & EU wannabe leader free.
 
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toooooot

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This would conclude my conversation in this discussion.
"I know. It means recognizing that I am nothing but just a part of Mother Nature. It is recognizing when I try to be "free" I impact entire ecosystem for my selfish reason. It means I have to recognize truth regardless of I like it or not"
Half of the world live by the law of force and the law of the strongest.
if we as a nation, try to be what you are trying to be, China, Russia even smaller powers can simply expand like parasites hey are, torturing, killing like they tried to kill that British spy only on much larger scale, especially since we would leave the countries where we and they both have presence. They all have preferred tools of murder and chaos, be it Novichok or shameless stealing and crashing like Chine likes it, or whatever tools western society distanced from. I don't see China for example to be any different from Russia, because they both would easily kill for their "great future" They will keep breaking promises, backstabbing and just being dark alley criminals they always were. At its worst, USA will never be starving and torturing millions of its citizens like those "great" nations did.

So you keep freedom, we will keep the land & resources.
Don't worry, we will wipe the freedom parasite clean off it's existence. Sit tight.
You think we don't see your desire to continue your freeloading lifestyle to feast on global resources under pro-pa-gan-da of freedom? So cute & naive.
Those lines are way outdated fake american. Need to bring something new
Was done before. USSR promised the future where capitalistic pigs like USA then will stop oppressing the working class and there would be everything enough for all the good people to live and prosper. All you can bring is poverty like the poverty Russia ended up with after the great future collapsed under a massive pile of lies. You don't seem to follow how history repeats itself. You cant give people something they are not able to receive. What I see in your quote is the same words that brought darkest years in humanity's history.
Do not do it.

That's it. You can now write the last comment and be the winner. Just don't pick on my language and grammar, I am a little-bit sensitive and insecure about my style and more importantly skill. Cheers
 

Nobonita Barua

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Half of the world live by the law of force and the law of the strongest.
Then so be it, don't whine.
They all have preferred tools of murder and chaos, be it Novichok or shameless stealing and crashing like Chine likes it, or whatever tools western society distanced from.
Western countries always "distance" from the tools they can't use anymore & want to make sure it won't be used aginst them.
" tools of murder and chaos, be it Novichok or shameless stealing and crashing" reminds me the birth of the country called The United States.
USA will never be starving and torturing millions of its citizens like those "great" nations did.
No, It will be "free"ing them with bo-mbs. Just like they did with natives & southerns of their own,including chemical wea-pon testing on them.
You cant give people something they are not able to receive. What I see in your quote is the same words that brought darkest years in humanity's history.
Do not do it.
You are going philosophical wayy too early.
Don't worry about me.
That's it. You can now write the last comment and be the winner. Just don't pick on my language and grammar, I am a little-bit sensitive and insecure about my style and more importantly skill. Cheers
No problem. Though I wonder what skills fake americans might have except doing cam show.
You don't seem to follow how history repeats itself.
O you have no idea. It's the only true thing you have said in your 3 looooonngg essay pr-opaga-nda.
And on the back of it, only thing I want to say is, Mother Nature always balances her power.

It's you who have been afraid of history repeating itself,not us. Don't believe me? Ask your elected officials.
 

GeforcerFX

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No not exactly.
EU, Japan, South Korea is highly advanced. No one disputes that. They are benchmark of quality.
However I like the way you threw USA in the bunch. USA doesn't come even remotely close to EU, let alone Japan, SK in quality of life style & other staffs. It's basically combo of 2-3 shiny cities in New York & others are south sudan type, & ghettos where people live by trash can.
Spoken like someone who has been nowhere in there life, I've been to Europe saw poor people was told about areas I shouldn't be. Been to Japan saw poor people, saw crime, saw ghettos. So the USA can't be in the list unless they have no poor people at all? But the rest of the world gets a pass? If you have never been around the USA then don't act like you have. Every city big and small has it's wealth and has it's poor, the idea in the USA (and most Western countries) is you have the opportunity for advancement, and everyone does, some just have to work harder and take longer and they aren't willing to do that work. The major cities all have major business and services and history that draws people in, it's not just a couple of poster cities all the major cities are like that, Houston, Dallas, Kansas City, Denver, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, Nashville, Memphis, Miami, Tampa, Atlanta, etc all are developed cities with a few small areas of run down, never been to South Sudan but if it looks like these cities then they don't have much to complain about.
 
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GeforcerFX

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Look at US riots, they are unique to US. Is that "western democracy" ? Noice.
South Sudan seems like a peaceful place atm.
Didn't know Riots are equal to Genocide? The US has Riots like we have because we have the History we have and we have the diversity we have. No other developed world has this many races living in one country and has the history with those races together. So yes these Riots and protests are a unique thing for the USA, you see smaller scale stuff in Europe (France had the yellow jackets and Germany had the eco protests last two years, both have had migrant uprising as well in the last few years) but neither country or any European country has this type of diversity. The closest I have seen in Europe is the UK and they have more civil and racial problems than any other European nations.
 

Ludak021

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Oh now you add genocide to this whole story, broke and poor were not enough. How many genocides, would you say, does Sudan have annually? More or less than US has riots which are usually nothing but looting and people being hooligans?
France and yellow jackets are a joke. They don't even break windows of shops, let alone attack and rob people and stores. Cmon, give US some credit!
 
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Markoni35

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$23 billion?? Are they insane?????
They threw the money out of the window on outdated silicon.
For that much money they could have made their own chips.
 
It's embargo between US and China, again 300 million people vs everyone else that don't care. The only one that looks stupid in this is US. China is just a persistent Oligarchy of one party, as it has been for a century. And they need nothing from US. On the other hand, US needs EVERYTHING from China.
Actually, China needs USA WAY MORE than USA needs China. China accounts for less than 1% of US Exports (mostly Farm goods) while USA is destination of around 50% of China's exports. While there is a small of amount of Chinese exports to non-Democratic nations the vast majority go to Western/Asian Democracies (Europe, North America (USA, Canada, Mexico), Asian Democracies (S. Korea, Japan, etc.). So who needs who - China is an export driven economy and it's really hard if you insult the trading partners that you need and they have been labeled by covering up the initial wave (it doesn't matter whether it was natural mutation there isn't any doubt that the pandemic started in China and was initially covered up by China (including spreading it to Europe through the Italian factory connection) and the WHO (whose leader got his post through Chinese support). China has very little domestic consumption of its products and with COVID-19 and now its crackdown on Hong Kong autonomy in violation of the agreement with the U.K. about the return of Hong Kong to Chinese control the Chinese are making enemies of 70% of the world's governments/population outside of China and this is going to devastate the Chinese economy (in addition to the world wide recession/depression. These are not conspiracy issues - these are facts of the world economy and its effect on China's economy.
 

Ludak021

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Can you back that up? (export numbers) Because it seems like BS, no offense. Also, it's companies and people from US buying whatever % you have there from China. So if you stop (let's take the 50%) coming into US, you are depraving US customers, and Chinese companies. Now, Chinese companies do have other buyers, but US customers don't have other sources. So, who needs who?

Chinese are making enemies of 70% of the world's governments/population outside of China
now this I know is not true. Someone made that up somewhere in US, and you believe it to be true, fine. But it's not. Just because POTUS hates that US has nothing to offer for export and is now spinning tables hiding the fact that USA is just not a green pasture for manufacturing, does not make what he says 100% truth. Even he knows that he can't make China buy LNG from USA and that he has nothing to offer, but he is good at posturing and sounding tough (or funny, depends on who you ask). I'd go as far to say that is USA who is making enemies around the world, or rather Trump is with his childish trade ideas, and "deals" he will never make. Doesn't stop him from insulting everyone or ignoring everything he doesn't like. But hey China is going to remain Comunist dictatorship, and Trump is going to insist on making a better deal, or no deal. He managed to stop selling few things that China did buy from US companies being sold to them, while taking about trade inequality while further eroding it. He is just a bad player at trade. He never traded, he made hotels...
 
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