Intel Arc-powered laptop gets listed then removed weeks before release

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What just happened? Intel slated its Arc dedicated laptop GPUs for release at the end of March, but a seller accidentally revealed one Arc-powered computer before the lineup's release date. An online retailer briefly created then removed a listing for the Samsung Galaxy Book 2 Pro, a 12th-generation Intel ultrabook with an Arc graphics card.

Someone on Twitter spotted a product page on US retailer B&H Photo Video's website that listed a 15.6-inch Samsung Galaxy Book 2 Pro for sale earlier this week. Its specs include a 12th-generation Intel Core i7 processor, 16GB of 6400 MHz LPDDR5 memory, and an unnamed Intel Arc graphics chip, selling for $1,350.

The listing appeared to be an error, as the page disappeared after the news broke. The accidental reveal of the Intel Arc-powered laptop coincided with the release of the rest of the Samsung Galaxy Book 2 lineup, all of which feature 12th-generation Intel processors.

Earlier this week, Team Blue revealed that it would be launching the Arc Alchemist GPUs on March 30, in a special event titled "A New Stage of the Game." This early listing confirms that Samsung's Galaxy Book 2 Pro will be one of the first laptops to ship with the new cards.

Intel has received flack for repeatedly delaying the release of their dedicated graphics cards. We expect its desktop lineup to hit the market in May or June.

The Galaxy Book 2 Pro will likely be powered by an Intel Arc A370M, which Intel vice president Lisa Pearce said would be the first to hit the market. The chipmaker designed the A370M for thin and light laptops. It supposedly delivers twice the performance of Intel Iris Xe integrated graphics without heating issues or heavy power consumption.

The Samsung Galaxy Book 2 Pro weighs under 2.5 pounds, which is remarkably light for a 15.6-inch laptop with a dedicated GPU. This evolution could signal exciting times for those looking for gaming-capable laptops without the bulk.

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vannvicente said:
The chipmaker designed the A370M for thin and light laptops. It supposedly delivers twice the performance of Intel Iris Xe integrated graphics without heating issues or heavy power consumption.
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Who cares? AMD's integrated graphics is twice as fast at 35W power than Intel's Iris XE. Only totally *****s buy A370M. Too bad, there are many.
 
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The thing is, there's really no shortage of gaming *laptops*, because miners/scalpers don't want to pay for anything but a GPU. On that front Intel isn't giving us anything that we can't already get for roughly the same price.
 
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At this stage, I think the specs are no more a surprise. What is surprising is what’s taking Intel so long to even announce their dedicated enthusiasts GPU. I think they are too late in the game, and with GPU prices tumbling, this is like a nail in the coffin for these first gen Intel GPUs, which are too late and not expecting to wow anyone. If people can easily buy an Nvidia GPU, chances of them buying an Intel GPU (especially if it cost about the same) is very low.
 
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AMD is 35W, Intel is 45W. That makes Huge difference when it comes to iGPU.
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Huge difference ?? Proof ??

There is almost no difference between 35w APU and 45w APU when it comes to iGPU performance

5980HS (35w) perform almost same as 5800H (45w) in gaming (both have same iGPU)

Also, 5800U (at 25w) is just slightly faster than 5800U (at 15w) in gaming

I don't see any huge difference. TDP has more impact on multi-core CPU performance than iGPU. Basically, even if AMD APU was running at higher TDP it will barely many any difference on iGPU gaming performance. There is no way it will be 2x faster than intel iGPU.
 
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Huge difference ?? Proof ??

There is almost no difference between 35w APU and 45w APU when it comes to iGPU performance

5980HS (35w) perform almost same as 5800H (45w) in gaming (both have same iGPU)

Also, 5800U (at 25w) is just slightly faster than 5800U (at 15w) in gaming

I don't see any huge difference. TDP has more impact on multi-core CPU performance than iGPU. Basically, even if AMD APU was running at higher TDP it will barely many any difference on iGPU gaming performance. There is no way it will be 2x faster than intel iGPU.
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If there are no big differences, then GPU is perhaps quite small and just cannot use extra power or is memory constrained. Since AMD APU is meant to work at 35W, it's easy to guess it has been optimized for 35W too and probably it's memory constrained anyway so 45W might not make major difference. However Intel CPU at 35W might be entirely different story, since it's meant to be used at 45W.

Also AMD 5000-series uses DDR4 memory that will likely bottleneck it.

As you can see there, going from 28W to 15W makes big difference on iGPU performance on same iGPU https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-11th-gen-tiger-lake-superfin-10nm-benchmarks

There is not enough power available for iGPU -> clocks are lower and so is performance.

Mobile benchmarks with certain TDP are hard to find.
 
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