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Intel Core i5 661 Review: Now With Built-In Graphics

By Julio Franco · 34 replies
Jan 4, 2010
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  1. Based on the 32nm Westmere architecture and going by the code-name Clarkdale, of most relevance, the Intel Core i5 661 processor features an on-die GPU and two processing cores clocked at 3.33GHz that support HT technology.

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  2. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    Mmmmmmm super-speedy dual core with on-die Intel graphics......Sort of like having a wooden park bench as the seating arrangement in your Ferrari 599
  3. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,279   +105

    Thanks for the review.

    I'd appreciate a medium size for images. I tried to look at the media features table, which is too hard to read in the small image, and too huge in the large image. (Though doing "View image" and letting the browser scale it worked.)
  4. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,706   +172

    4.60ghz... that's crazy! Also crazy is Intel's i3/i5/i7 naming scheme - how the hell would a normal person know which processor is which?
  5. That's easy,you just do what most people do and that is listen to the computer shop tells you to buy.
  6. compdata

    compdata TechSpot Paladin Posts: 529   +7

    I agree the naming scheme is messed up. I guess i will continue to be looking at the benchmarks to determine what to buy.
  7. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,405   +875

    These new CPU's are weak compared to what AMD can offer for the same amount of money (platform wise).
  8. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,333   +280

    Not to mention the savings in not having to change your motherboard every time Intel decides they want to require a new chipset. My AM3 motherboards will have plenty of CPU options for quite a while...
  9. Xecutor

    Xecutor TS Enthusiast Posts: 118

    Even performance-wise, AMD has the superior CPU, or is at par with these new Intel i5's. Only in a couple of instances does the Intel CPU seem to overtake AMD, but when you think about it, does buying a new CPU that requires a completely new chipset everytime, and whose mobos cost a lot to build justify their price point? I think not, since AMD has the right answer to it: transferrability with its AM2+/AM3 capable mobos. Longevity will work in AMD's favour for now for the right price. Intel still has to learn about doing that; however, the corei7's do show their ability to innovate, but if they could integrate AMD's ability to maintainthe same chipset for multiple CPUs, Intel could gain bigger market.
  10. Funny how you used DDR2 and an old Mobo for AMD
    while show casing how "Great" the new Intels DDR3 chipsets are
  11. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,333   +280

    Ah, but Xecutor, you have missed one crucial part of the equation: If Intel does the customer-friendly thing and maintains the same chipset/configuration for their processors, they can't sell all these new chipsets that they like to make up. Think about it, right now Intel assumes we are all complete *****s, and comes out with shiny new CPUs that are the "best thing since sliced bread" or something like that, then when consumers jump at them, there's the "oh yah, and you also need to buy a new board that uses our shiny new chipset too!" They get to double-dip whenever they sell the new CPUs, until there is a market saturation and motherboards are being updated with newer processors, then it's time to come up with a new CPU/chipset configuration and start all over again.

    There's a reason Intel was fighting nVidia's right to make chipsets for their new processors... Don't want someone else to interfere with their double-dipping scam :)
  12. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,405   +875

    @Vrmithrax i don't know if the double-dip really works for them. i believe they really were obligated to release a new chipset because of the integrated igp which doesn't work on the old one. they could have made it possible for the p55 chipset to work with these new cpu's but then when they lunched them they would have to make them more expensive which would have been counterproductive since they wanted to compete with AMD at a lower price range.
  13. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,405   +875

    Also most people don't just upgrade the CPU, they buy a new PC
  14. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,333   +280

    I see where you are coming from, Puiu, but there is a bigger picture if you step back... Intel has a massive rash of changing socket types and supporting chipsets. As you indicated, people often just buy new computers, which Intel is trying to guarantee will have their chipsets and CPUs in them (double-dip). If they supported the older architectures, they wouldn't necessarily make as much, since the stockpile of existing motherboards could be tapped into. By forcing constant updates and upgrades, they are creating a market for their chipsets by proxy, as the next model won't work with previous boards. Doing this adds a constant development cost and complexity to motherboard builders. (and yes, I know that some of the reason for the changes is due to advances in the bus architectures, but so many variations in a short time is ridiculous).

    In contrast, look at AMD. They had the AM2, upgraded to the AM2+, now have AM3. Lots of backwards compatibility, plenty of familiarity and common parts bases, low stress for the motherboard manufacturers to keep churning them out. No requirements for new chipsets every 12 seconds. Gradual movement to newer memory systems (DDR3), rather than forcing you to jump in that respect too. It seems to be a more gentle philosophy, and makes you wonder if AMD didn't think well beyond the box to plan their path (and come up with a good architecture capable of longevity), while Intel is just hopping around making all these parallel innovations that constantly render their previous work irrelevant. Looking at the product paths, it's like AMD is a nice straight stretch of highway, while Intel is whipping around hairpin curves constantly... heh
  15. it would be interesting to know how new dual cores can perform against existing quad processors(core 2 quad)

    it would be nice to know your opinions on this

  16. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Editor Posts: 2,358   +1,517

    That’s not funny at all because the system specs clearly stated that we used DDR3. In any case when did the AMD processors become much faster with DDR3 memory opposed to DDR2?

    Did you read the review, the Core 2 Quad Q6600 was featured, arguably the most popular processor of the entire Core 2 Quad series.
  17. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    Aaaah, another Intel release....and you know what that means boys and girls?

    Yes, you guessed it....A whole thread filling with the wailing angst of Goth-like AMD persecution disciples.

    Your prize? Why, certainly, here's a bright shiny 955BE, with industry equalling three year warranty...or at least until they go Chapter 11
  18. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    Crazy ? No, that's not crazy.....this is crazy...http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=921805
  19. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,223   +163

    why I take offense sir! I have never dawned white face or black lipstick! unfortunately you may be right. if AMD doesn't come up with a new architecture that rivals Intels i series, AMD will go the way of Cyrix, and we will lose the competitive nature of the CPU market.
    ......personally, I blame this on bigfoot,area 51, ....and of course Brett Favre! ;):p:p:wave:
  20. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    On a less flippant note than my post.....
    Luckily, I think AMD probably won't disappear. Various financial and economic regulatory factors make it extremely unlikely Intel would be left with a virtual monopoly in the consumer chipset market -regardless of how much they are attempting to achieve this.
    I do think AMD is heading for a financial meltdown-maybe not in the short term-but it's coming. And when it does it's going to be interesting to see how the company is carved up...and who does the carving.
    ATI are bouyant at the moment, and I don't see that changing in the foreseeable future as Intel's on-die graphics are no threat to the market that updates it's graphics cards on a regular basis, and I wouldn't imagine that nVidia's new mid-range will be ready before the start of Q3 2010. I'd be more than a little surprised if nV were to compete in the $US70 bracket as well.
    AMD's server market I think takes a big hit if Tesla fulfils only a fraction of it's promise. The power savings alone are enough to consign conventional server tech to the scrapheap.
    Which leaves AMD's home computing....From my viewpoint the majority of people who use computers probably couldn't tell what architecture that was under the heatspreader in their computer-there's just not that big an empirical performance difference in most applications.
    When I ask about preference (if any) when I build a system for someone- the answer is more likely than not, Intel. Not from a performance based assessment, but from an assumption that Intel is number 1, and AMD is number 2. I think AMD users are well aware of this- unfortunately their evangelical determination in the public forum tends to hinder rather than help the cause because unlike the ATI v NVIDIA handbags-at-ten-paces, Intel users don't tend to rise to the bait as often leading to AMD top-heavy comments and rhetoric in the media which is as likely to be themed as Intel bashing rather than singing the praises of AMD.
    Among the people I build for, the adage "Walk softly but carry a big stick" could well apply to their choice of hardware.
  21. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,223   +163

    I agree with most of that. The last thing that Intel wants is for AMD to disappear. they merely want to keep them in the high single digits of market share.if they were to run them out of town, it would open up an endless train of 'monopoly' litigation, and the new investors in the middle east know this.
    Like you, when people come to me for a new build they usually walk through the door screaming "intel" , and for the same reasons. they have no idea why they want it other than the correct perception that Intel is better. as for the "evangelical determination" of AMD owners, that can be chalked up to the human nature (mostly) of peoples need to defend their decisions. I have been a defender of AMD in recent years for their price to performance ratio in their product line, but with Intels offerings of the last year, its getting very difficult to justify an AMD build.
    .....and BTW....what do you mean by "flippant"? you are the one that picked on Brett.
  22. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    .....and BTW....what do you mean by "flippant"? you are the one that picked on Brett.

    Lol ! I was of course referring to my own earlier comment. I did edit but I think we posted at the same time......I shouldn't pick on Brett I suppose as "he's only having fun out there!" (and semi famous in a country that has no organised American Football playing at all)
  23. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,223   +163

    :haha: ....okay .... now i demand that you tell me the name of your most famous rugby.......or soccer star, so i can ridicule him! :p:haha:
  24. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    As Rugby is the national game....Ritchie McCaw (All Black's captain, World Rugby Player of the Year) , or Dan Carter (All Black flyhalf/first five-eighth) who has the status of Tom Brady here (minus the Brazilian model and Bawwwwston faithful)
  25. funny yesterday it was a DDR2 Mobo a deactivated item on Newegg
    now lo an behold its been changed to a DDR3 mobo
    your not the only site ive called on PRO intel benchmarks

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