Intel Core i7-12700 Review + Intel B660 Motherboard + RM1 Box Cooler

bravesgood

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Impressive.
AMD took too long. I said they were taking too long after I seen Zen+ and then Zen 2. And with a poor software product stack, they can't compete with hardware alone. More cores was never going to save them. Neither will more cache on existing Zen 3 parts, or part since only the 5800X 3D is said to be getting it. It better launch with a price cut. My guess it will be underwhelming.

Intel still has Raptor Lake coming this year. Zen 4 better be amazing.

Am I missing something? A few months ago Ryzen 5000 was the highest performing CPU on the market. Just because Intel released a CPU worth buying doesn't mean Ryzen 5000 is now trash.
 

hahahanoobs

Posts: 4,465   +2,435
Am I missing something? A few months ago Ryzen 5000 was the highest performing CPU on the market. Just because Intel released a CPU worth buying doesn't mean Ryzen 5000 is now trash.
Never said Zen 3 was trash.
Click my profile and look at my system specs....
 
I have read that BCLK overclocking is back with Alder Lake. Do you guys have any plans to test that? It would be a steal to get this CPU to 5.0ghz or more with traditional non-multiplier based overclocking.
 
For the near term the crown will shift based on who has the newer tech. Zen4 will send it back to AMD. This is what competition should look like. The winner here is us. We are finally getting big gains from one generation to the next. Personally I will be waiting for Zen4. I, and my wallet, prefer the multi-generational socket upgrade path.
 

hahahanoobs

Posts: 4,465   +2,435
To be fair, your comment implies that they haven't competed with intel at all. They clearly have, otherwise we wouldn't have a 16 core 12900k.
Research matters. Assumptions just waste time.

Competition also gave us bad chips like Bulldozer and Pentium 4 EE and D. You give one side too much praise.
 
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konondrum

Posts: 7   +6
My 12700F is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I've been waiting to upgrade from a 7700, and at $330 USD this is definitely the way to go right now.
I'm sure Zen 4 will look good later this year, but this is a seriously impressive release from Intel, long overdue.
 
This fact that on some B660 motherboards the 12700 can only work for a few moments in PL2 mode while on others motherboards it can remain indefinitely in PL2 is confusing.
Besides the MSI Mortar, what other B660 motherboards allow the 12700 to keep at 180W as long as the dissipation allows it (and have a Cinebench23 equal to 19714 in multicore rather than 16017)?