Yes they are? All reviews show MT numbers dwarfing their amd price competitors.
A lot of people don't wanna settle with low core count low MT chips like the 9800x 3d. If 8 cores suit your needs then go for it we are all happy for you but it doesn't work for all of us, 8 cores in 2026 feel very sluggish. Enthusiasts go for higher core counts cause they - you know - want to use their computers like computers, not like consoles. Had the 9800x 3d, handed it down to a friend within 1.5 months, it was horrible.
Bad comparison, the 5090 is the fastest. In everything. It doesn't lose to a 5060 in some workloads. The 9800x 3d does lose to entry level 200$ chips in lots of workloads.
It's funny to see amd fans ignoring MT performance which is what they were glazing about for years, right?
Not an Intel fan, when AMD had the lead in MT performance I was buying Ryzen (R5 1600 --> 2700x ---> 3700x) and considered Intel's 6700k and 7700k bad jokes. Now the 9800x 3d is in the same position as the 7700k was back in the day.
99% of consumers have no need for more than 8 p-cores, and e-cores are sluggish cores.
Intel uses 6-8 p-cores as well, plus a bunch of slow e-cores. Don't compare e-cores with p-cores, thank you.
AMDs 16 core offerings have no problems competing with Intel in productivity and Threadripper literally destroys Intel in this segment. Intel has no answer.
9950X3D/9950X3D is the best all-round CPU you can buy, peak productivity performance and peak gaming performance. Intel don't come in gaming unless you look at GPU bound gaming scenarios, which is pointless when talking CPU performance. Hence why they are more expensive than Intel 200 series. They are good for every task with top tier gaming performance. Intel don't have top tier gaming performance or even close.
8 cores is sluggish? Hahaha, what a joke. Intel uses 8-cores too and sluggish is what you get from e-cores. Garbage cores really. Tons of applications and games uses the wrong cores. Intel tries to fix this with their own software, because Windows scheduler is bugged in many cases.
You did not have 9800X3D, you make me laugh. You have zero experience with AMD and it is obvious.
So you bought AMD when AMD was trash and turned to Intel when they became trash, sounds plausible. Lmao.
9800X3D have plenty good productivity performance and some workloads scale well with cache too. Stop being stupid. Look at reviews.
AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D Review - The Best Just Got Better
The AMD Ryzen 9850X3D builds on the already excellent 9800X3D without trying to shake up the market. Instead, it focuses on refining what already works. AMD delivers modest improvements with smarter tuning, and the same cache magic that gamers love. Thanks to a reasonable price increase, this...
AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D Review - The Best Just Got Better
The AMD Ryzen 9850X3D builds on the already excellent 9800X3D without trying to shake up the market. Instead, it focuses on refining what already works. AMD delivers modest improvements with smarter tuning, and the same cache magic that gamers love. Thanks to a reasonable price increase, this...
AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D Review - The Best Just Got Better
The AMD Ryzen 9850X3D builds on the already excellent 9800X3D without trying to shake up the market. Instead, it focuses on refining what already works. AMD delivers modest improvements with smarter tuning, and the same cache magic that gamers love. Thanks to a reasonable price increase, this...
Obviously this chip is for gaming but still hold its own in typical consumer workloads. If you prefer application performance, this chip is not for you and is not aimed for this. AMD have other solutions that suits these needs and still beats Intel in gaming.
Worlds best gaming CPU, is the conclusion. You claiming it is slow in applications just shows you have no clue, no experience and clearly is lying about having one. Thanks for a free laugh tho. Had a big smile on while writing all this.
Lets look at the conclusion:
- Fastest gaming processor in the world
- No risk of E-Cores complicating software compatibility
And this is why most gamers don't bother with Intel these days. Intels e-cores, lets call them garbage cores, g-cores, mostly complicates things and is a result of Intel being unable to compete with AMD in MT workloads over the years. G-cores was the answer, because Intels p-cores used way too much power.
AMD made Intel leave the HEDT space entirely.
Intel is cheaper than AMD now, for a reason. Intel became the value option in the last 5 years. That is reality for you.
Find me one, just one scenario where 9800X3D/9850X3D loses in performance to a entry level 200 dollars CPU. I am waiting.
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