Intel, Samsung, Toshiba together aim for 10nm chips by 2016

By Emil · 31 replies
Oct 29, 2010
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  1. Intel, Samsung, and Toshiba are joining forces and pooling R&D efforts to build 10 nanometer semiconductor chips by 2016, according to Reuters. The three have joined a consortium to work towards the goal. The Japanese Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry is expected to provide 50 percent for the initiative, which equates to 5 billion yen ($62.12 million or €44.69 million). The rest is expected to come from the members of the consortium.

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  2. cardriverx

    cardriverx TS Rookie Posts: 82

    Reasonable SSD prices cannot get here soon enough!
  3. customcarvin

    customcarvin TS Enthusiast Posts: 103   +8

    I wonder, at what fab size these component traces will reach an equilibrium? I mean, at some point they're going to get so small that they wont be able to be mass produced consistently enough to conduct electricity.
  4. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,978   +15

    Minor typo on the word Samsung in the 2nd paragraph.
    2016 is a ways off but this is exciting and a good step ahead non the less!
    @customcarvin - Thats right they keep stepping down the voltages so that the electricity doesnt jump between 2 bits/addresses. It'd be cool to be on the engineering side of this to better understand limitations and what the future may hold instead.
  5. CyberChrist

    CyberChrist TS Rookie

    How low can you go? Amirite!
  6. Storagebox

    Storagebox TS Rookie Posts: 17

    10nm thats like really small, i though it wasnt possible cause that small atom begin to touch each other or something like that
  7. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Evangelist Posts: 646   +89

    They keep pushing "Moore's Law" but being that small, how are they going to deal with Errors?
  8. madboyv1

    madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,471   +375

    With smaller versions of the magic and unicorns they use already. :p
  9. frodough

    frodough TS Rookie Posts: 90

    i cant wait till something like microITX motherboard or picoITX (maybe this already exists) but good to know hardware are advancing steadily.
  10. sMILEY4ever

    sMILEY4ever TS Booster Posts: 158

    Talk about heaps of money for research..
    Anyways, 10nm is..f ing tiny.
  11. Elitassj4

    Elitassj4 TS Rookie Posts: 24

    The three kings(Three Wise Men) from the east,coming together,bringing R&D gifts to the SSD child.....lowl.Can''t wait to see what this trio can achieve.
  12. dawgtothebone

    dawgtothebone TS Rookie

    Yeah this problem is being addressed by many people

    Take a look at this.

    I wonder what the size of the transistor is in samsungs 20nm NANDs.Probably something in the pico's.
  13. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,595   +257

    We should just make smaller machines to make smaller machines to make even smaller machines.. then it would be a piece of cake... right? lmao
  14. kazarm

    kazarm TS Rookie Posts: 29

    Nice to see moores law is still working
  15. akannitaoheed

    akannitaoheed TS Rookie Posts: 79

    Getting them smaller makes them all the more portable though, stability of these stuffs, reliability and shelf life matters just as much if not more. let them also put durability into consideration because we are still the ones to buy these stuffs on the long run . Good value for our bucks isn't negotiable.
  16. peteyhawkins

    peteyhawkins TS Rookie Posts: 19

    Brilliant news all round, 10nm not only brings even more effiecient cpus, gpus and motherboard chips but I see the HUGE advantage in making larger capacity SSD's... 512gb... more like 512Tb by the time this tech comes about.
  17. killamoves

    killamoves TS Rookie Posts: 18

    So what happens after they get down to 1nm.
  18. rizalp

    rizalp TS Rookie Posts: 39

    It will be the start of the new era. The pico era. pm
  19. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,676

    I actually lol'd
  20. It was 120nm back then (199x?), now 32nm is already in mass production, but how much has the motherboard of a computer shrank? As far as I can remember, the PC desktop casing has grown much larger than those boxes that I used to have back in 199x. Yeah I know we should be talking about mobile and embedded devices, but shouldn't be the motherboard of a standard PC follow the same pace?
  21. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,115   +9

    This is amazing in and of itself with all these great minds working together well have cheap SSD drives in no time :) plus much cooler and more efficient CPU's.
  22. alexandrionel

    alexandrionel TS Enthusiast Posts: 94

    This is incredible news! But I don't think this target is real. I would say that in 2016 they will announce that they have managed maybe and in one or two years more they wil start mass production.
    So, we will have great SSD drives in 2018. Yupee... :(
  23. hitech0101

    hitech0101 TS Guru Posts: 451   +34

    Hope they can come out with these chips before 2016.
  24. Uvindu

    Uvindu TS Booster Posts: 120

    I wonder how small these things will get. They will have to create a word to represent something even smaller than nano in a few years. This news is great. I hope they can come up with something better than the current 32nm before 2016. Keeping my finger crossed...
  25. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,654   +1,092

    Hopefully they can make it happen sooner. I want my cheap SSD's! (who doesn't?)

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