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iPhone 4 users file class action suit against Apple and AT&T

By Matthew ยท 31 replies
Jul 1, 2010
  1. Fed up with the iPhone 4's reception issues as well as a lack of support, a couple of early adopters filed a class action lawsuit in Maryland yesterday against Apple and AT&T. The suit focuses on the antenna design flaw that weakens signals and drops calls when a user's hand touches the small gap in the bezel on the left side of the phone. The various claims made in the case are listed below:

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  2. KG363

    KG363 TS Guru Posts: 518   +12

    "Oh no! We don't like our phones! Let's files a lawsuit"
  3. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,400   +359

    More like "Oh no! This phone that I've waited impatiently for, traded in my old working phone for, probably stood in line for, signed a new 2 year contract to get, and would really like to USE as a phone isn't working! And the company that rushed it out is just shrugging the issues off or denying them outright, calling us all liars! Let's file a lawsuit"

    If you buy a car and it doesn't work, you have legal recourse. And you didn't lock yourself into 2 years of slavery to the car dealer in the process.

    Honestly, I can see this being great... If nothing else, it might knock down Messiah Jobs off his pedestal a little and open up the eyes of a few sheep.
  4. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,931   +3,304

    Even Imbeciles Seem to be Able to Smell Blood in the Water....

    Too bad it's their own.......

    For these ********* that had to be the first kids on their collective block to have this new toy, you'd think they'd be more appreciative, rather than suing.

    I mean really, isn't this your own stupidity? I didn't think that this phone actually had to work. Aren't you just supposed to take it home and let your "friends" touch it, while spouting about how lucky you were to be able to get it on the first day of sale?

    My advice would be to slap some electrical tape on the little turd's antenna gap, then shut your collective yap, save your pennies, and wait for the next piece of doggy largesse that Steve Jobs commands you to buy.......!
  5. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,703   +171

    Taking on Apple's lawyers? That's brave. Stupid, but brave nonetheless.
  6. JudaZ

    JudaZ TS Enthusiast Posts: 284

    If the flaw in the design is in the actuall hardware. Problems with moisture from the palm of a hand in direct connectino with the antenna/antennas..

    .. how the h*ll are you gonna fix that with a software update??

    You can do a lot of things as a programmer, but i don think you can redisign hardware and make it morph into something diffrent just through some lines of code......at least not yet.
  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,931   +3,304

    Please see my "slap some electrical tape on it" suggestion above.

    Perhaps some enterprising third party will begin marketing, "iPhone 4 Antenna Gap Tape". That oughta be good for about 20 bucks a roll.
  8. matrix86

    matrix86 TS Guru Posts: 845   +38

    1.) doubt this will get very far

    2.) this is what you get for buying something so expensive as soon as it comes out

    3.) at least people are opening their eyes and seeing that Apple isn't as good as people make it out to be

    4.) as mentioned before, how is a software update going to fix a hardware issue?

    5.) there's no point in suing. Just take the phone back and get something different. Yes you're locked into a phone plan, but at least you can get a different phone (or at least you should be able to)

    6.) the iPhone 4 is clearly defective, therefore it should be recalled and everyone refunded. Consumers should not have to do anything to make their phone work (other than charging it, of course). This includes having to hold it differently. Apple needs to recall the phone and either refund everyone their money or release a fixed version of the phone (yeah...like that'll happen, lol)

    I think Apple is getting too big for its britches. The iPad had issues and Jobs placed the blame elsewhere. The iPhone 4 has issues and Jobs says "no it doesn't" and now aparently thinks a software upgrade will fix a hardware problem. Stick with desktop computers, laptops, and mp3 players, Apple. It seems to be the only thing you're good at lately.
  9. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Topic Starter Posts: 5,270   +103

    From Ars Technica: "Speculation suggests that the iPhone 4 may use programmable capacitors that could be adjusted in real-time to account for the detuning problem caused by the antenna short. So far, though, a rumored iOS update to fix the problem has not materialized."
  10. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 605   +67

    No way. People are actually suing APPLE now? Isn't that only supposed to be done to Microsoft? I thought Steve Jobs was the messiah come to save us from the devil, Bill Gates and his evil empire. What happened to the little Utopian Apple world of love, and joy, and joyness?

    Oh wait, that's right. Apple grew up and became just another big corporation. Except they didn't get the memo on customer service. When nobody buys your products, you can afford to ignore your customers, but when a lot of people buy your products, you can't afford to be jerks. The more popular Apple becomes, the more problems they will have, and the less warm and fuzzy people will feel towards them.

    I'm happy to see them being sued. Not because I'm sadistic, but because Apple needs to realize it isn't God's gift to man. In order to have a superior product, you have to have superior service.
  11. mattfrompa

    mattfrompa TS Evangelist Posts: 575   +73

    How can they sue Apple? I mean, Jobs already said there aren't any reception issues. Everything would be fine if they just did as they were told. Either hold it differently, or get a case. It's THAT simple...it just works...and when it doesn't, YOU'RE wrong, not Apple. Remember that, and start saving up for the next iwhatever. Cause it's gonna be expeeeeensive! lol hey, Jobs' daily bonus has to come from somewhere! you...
  12. Timonius

    Timonius TS Evangelist Posts: 648   +58

    Hehe call it iTape and sell for 100 bucks!
  13. fish4specs

    fish4specs TS Rookie Posts: 40

    Don't you have 30 days to return phone and cancel new contract with ATT. Will be hard to explain why suit filed when phone hasn't even been released 30 days yet.
  14. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,007   +18

    Maybe this will be Apple's Jonestown...
  15. jink

    jink TS Rookie Posts: 23

    fish4specs is right. 30 days to return the phone if your not happy with it. Suing is the retarded money-grubbing American Way though - it's a way of life - and is eating away at any good karma America has left.

    Apple should definitely suck it up and do the right thing and Steve should take the high road on this one - it's simply not up to the standards that Steve and Apple have generally striven to bring to the industry. Take'em back and fix'em/change the design - period.
  16. Or maybe, just maybe, we could use a phone that actually works, not an expensive piece of crap.
    Btw, in Romania, where I am from, this piece of s*** costs very close to 3000$ for the 32GB version.
  17. LOL This made my day.
  18. Maybe they want to add the lack of decent vibration to their list of fail iPhone features.
  19. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,400   +359

    @gwailo247 and @jink - of course, the 30 day refund thing is an option, but this only applies to the phone, not the 2 year locked in contract you signed to get the phone. You can take the iPhone back, but you are still stuck with that AT&T contract, and they are NOT letting anyone back out of them. If the whole reason you signed the contract was to have your precious new Apple toy, and it doesn't work as advertised, you are stuck. Forced to get a new phone? That's a bit of a bait and switch feel to it. That's why AT&T is drawn into the mix, since they are selling the faulty product yet leaving the customer holding their heavy 2 year bag even though it doesn't work properly.

    But, the fact that the phone sucks sweaty goat testicles lies squarely on Apple's shoulders, not AT&T, so that makes Apple the only viable target for the lawsuits. And, really, the suits are more to slap Apple and get them to fix/recall/whatever the product, and to nudge AT&T into realizing that they should probably offer contract escape for those who signed exclusively because of the faulty iPhone. I don't think anybody really expects to make anything off this (other than the lawyers). It's just a public donkey punch to knock Jobs off his high horse and make him acknowledge the problems, rather than live in denial. And a little rabbit punch in AT&T's kidneys for being inflexible and selling turds disguised as cutting edge phones.
  20. Bitten Apple makes magic products. How the hell they can resolve HARDWARE issue with a software update?
  21. Umm, aren't people holding it like it shows on all apple ads? Even Jevs Sobs was holding it wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoqh27E6OuU
  22. fish4specs

    fish4specs TS Rookie Posts: 40

    Few years ago we got a new phone for my wife, free with 2 year contract (service was month-to-month). The phone interfered with hearing device she uses. We returned the phone within a couple days and that voided the new contract. Went back to month-to-month.
  23. mattfrompa

    mattfrompa TS Evangelist Posts: 575   +73

  24. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,007   +18

    The update feature will activate the nanite factory in the iPhone which will dispatch a small army of these creatures to physically alter the hardware of your iphone, then dissolve into a mist that smells like crisp red delicious apples. you wake up with a fixed phone, and a pleasant smell.
  25. JudaZ

    JudaZ TS Enthusiast Posts: 284

    gwailo247 - or maybe the software patch just activates the location software hidden below....

    you will get a visit from some guys in some dark suits and your complaining will be over...

    not your problems with the phone ,
    but you will not care anymore, you will have a lot of new iProblems to think about. :)
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