Is Windows 11 coming? Leaks confirm it

Avro Arrow

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We know that Microsoft screwed this up somehow. They wouldn't be Microsoft if they didn't.

So... are we going to have some kind of pool to see if we can guess just how MS managed to screw up Windows 11? I still get VISTA flashbacks every time MS announces a new version of Windows.

Does anyone remember this old gem?:
 
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ypsylon

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What worries me the most about W11 (except subscription) is pointless cosmetic changes. Often against ergonomics - e.g. leaked screenshot where search bar for Search function was moved to the top instead staying where it belongs at the bottom near the taskbar - unless you have taskbar on top then sure why not. I think MS should really look over how ZBrush customization work. At first start program is extremely daunting for newbies, but you can literally customize placement and/or every function/parameter except top bar where your name, license and version is displayed. Everything can be moved everywhere/configured to your style.

MS hippies seems to copy MacOS designs UI (badly) while providing less and less user control over the system. Like totally dumbing down the experience and more advanced users/your workflow be damned.
 

Squid Surprise

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Well, this is a great time for MS to demonstrate that the "spyware" they've installed in your OS was actually useful...

Remember, despite what most of the paranoid tinfoil-hat wearing posters in here suggest, the spyware's purpose was to make MS products better.

Well, here comes Windows 11 - MS, have you studied us well? Looking forward to seeing if they have :)
 

Bullwinkle M

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Well, this is a great time for MS to demonstrate that the "spyware" they've installed in your OS was actually useful...

Remember, despite what most of the paranoid tinfoil-hat wearing posters in here suggest, the spyware's purpose was to make MS products better.

Well, here comes Windows 11 - MS, have you studied us well? Looking forward to seeing if they have :)

Tell us how the "spyware" made Windows 10 "better" ?

and.....

If the spyware fixed everything and made Windows 10 better, then why is it still spying and why does Monopolysoft refuse to remove or disable it now that everything is "better" ???
 
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Squid Surprise

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Tell us how the "spyware" made Windows 10 "better" ?

and.....

If the spyware fixed everything and made Windows 10 better, then why is it still spying and why does Monopolysoft refuse to remove or disable it now that everything is "better" ???
Apparently, reading comprehension isn’t one of your strengths.... I said that was the PURPOSE of the spyware - as for whether it works... we’ll see when Windows 11 arrives...

As for why MS should remove it.... nothing will ever be perfect... always room for improvement.
Except for Windows XP, obviously... that’s perfect...
 

Bullwinkle M

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Apparently, reading comprehension isn’t one of your strengths.... I said that was the PURPOSE of the spyware - as for whether it works... we’ll see when Windows 11 arrives...

As for why MS should remove it.... nothing will ever be perfect... always room for improvement.
Except for Windows XP, obviously... that’s perfect...
Actually, reading comprehension "is" my strong point!

There is no need to wait for another Spyware Platform to see if the spyware works to benefit the end users

If it worked, we would see the great benefits in Spyware Platform 10, instead of waiting for Spyware Platform 11

Face it, it never worked and never will

It is not used to improve anything for the end users

If it were, you would have evidence by now

Guess what.....
YOU DON'T !
and never will

YOU FAIL!
 

Squid Surprise

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Actually, reading comprehension "is" my strong point!

There is no need to wait for another Spyware Platform to see if the spyware works to benefit the end users

If it worked, we would see the great benefits in Spyware Platform 10, instead of waiting for Spyware Platform 11

Face it, it never worked and never will

It is not used to improve anything for the end users

If it were, you would have evidence by now

Guess what.....
YOU DON'T !
and never will

YOU FAIL!
Lol... I believe the evidence would be the hundreds of millions of devices running Windows 10.... so, YES, it works...

How many devices are still running Windows XP?
 

Squid Surprise

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How many Windows 10 devices are infected with Microsoft Malware?

ALL OF THEM!

and......Windows XP ?

Not MINE!
All of them are NOT infected with malware... there’s a big difference between MS’ telemetrics and malware... but then, you’re still using Windows XP, so can’t be expected to understand the difference.
I heard that FIFA 2002 just came out - you should get it :)
 

Bullwinkle M

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All of them are NOT infected with malware... there’s a big difference between MS’ telemetrics and malware... but then, you’re still using Windows XP, so can’t be expected to understand the difference.
I heard that FIFA 2002 just came out - you should get it :)
Congratulations
you now have a 100% failure rate
 

Bullwinkle M

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What's with you and your extreme fanboyism for windows XP? That OS was so problematic that it needed 3 service packs to get rid of some (not all) of the major bugs and still was a broken mess with huge security holes.
I fixed the security holes and there are no more problems

No malware since 2014 and no bluescreens for the past 12 years

It is not fanboyism either

I simply use whatever works
 

Bullwinkle M

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All of them are NOT infected with malware... there’s a big difference between MS’ telemetrics and malware... but then, you’re still using Windows XP, so can’t be expected to understand the difference.
I heard that FIFA 2002 just came out - you should get it :)
O'Really?

Explain the difference

(This, I gotta hear)
 

Puiu

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I fixed the security holes and there are no more problems

No malware since 2014 and no bluescreens for the past 12 years

It is not fanboyism either

I simply use whatever works
No, just no. You didn't fix windows XP and don't even pretend that you did. These lies need to stop. The only thing you did was update the browser to the last version that had support for it and that's about it.
 
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captaincranky

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Actually, reading comprehension "is" my strong point!

There is no need to wait for another Spyware Platform to see if the spyware works to benefit the end users

If it worked, we would see the great benefits in Spyware Platform 10, instead of waiting for Spyware Platform 11

Face it, it never worked and never will

It is not used to improve anything for the end users

If it were, you would have evidence by now
Lol... I believe the evidence would be the hundreds of millions of devices running Windows 10.... so, YES, it works...
Let's be honest, only a fraction of those, "hundreds of millions of devices", were actually consciously equipped, by their owners, with Windows.10..
Most were bullied into adopting it by the head douche bag at M$, Satya Nadella.

And since if you must or want to use a Windows device today, you get Window 10, whether you want it or not.

M$ is a monopoly, whether you want to accept that or not. And M$ is dictating which version of Windows you must use, is entirely up to them, whether you like it or not,

This "free will" propaganda you're spouting about adoption numbers is pure bullsh!t
 
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Squid Surprise

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O'Really?

Explain the difference

(This, I gotta hear)
So here is the definition of Malware:
Malware is any software intentionally designed to cause damage to a computer, server, client, or computer network.

MS Telemetrics, on the other hand doesn't do that... it's PURPOSE is actually to IMPROVE your computing experience by sending MS details in order for them to improve their software... It's also really easy to disable if you honestly don't trust MS and think they're spying on you (to what end!?!?).

Obviously you don't need this because you're such a Windows pro... but here are the instructions to disable them if you really need them.

The Windows Compatibility Telemetry is a service in Windows 10 which contains technical data on how the device and its related software is working. It periodically sends the data to Microsoft for future improvement of the system and to enhance the user experience. To sort out your concern, you may disable this service from the Task Scheduler by following the steps below:

  1. Click Start, type Task Scheduler, and then press Enter.
  2. On the TaskScheduler window, go to this path: Task Scheduler Library\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience.
  3. On the Application Experience folder, look for Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser.
  4. Right-click on it, select Disable, and then confirm to complete the process.
 

Puiu

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So here is the definition of Malware:
Malware is any software intentionally designed to cause damage to a computer, server, client, or computer network.

MS Telemetrics, on the other hand doesn't do that... it's PURPOSE is actually to IMPROVE your computing experience by sending MS details in order for them to improve their software... It's also really easy to disable if you honestly don't trust MS and think they're spying on you (to what end!?!?).

Obviously you don't need this because you're such a Windows pro... but here are the instructions to disable them if you really need them.

The Windows Compatibility Telemetry is a service in Windows 10 which contains technical data on how the device and its related software is working. It periodically sends the data to Microsoft for future improvement of the system and to enhance the user experience. To sort out your concern, you may disable this service from the Task Scheduler by following the steps below:

  1. Click Start, type Task Scheduler, and then press Enter.
  2. On the TaskScheduler window, go to this path: Task Scheduler Library\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience.
  3. On the Application Experience folder, look for Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser.
  4. Right-click on it, select Disable, and then confirm to complete the process.
Malware also steals personal or non-personal data so that's why people are calling the telemetry in the OS "malware".
 

captaincranky

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Malware also steals personal or non-personal data so that's why people are calling the telemetry in the OS "malware".
The telemetry involved to check on the legitimacy and activation status of any Windows edition, is a necessary evil that we all have to learn to live with, (but not have to like).

However, Windows 10 summarily installing "updates" involving a complete, mandatory, (and unavoidable), reinstall of the OS, is bullsh!t, and something I'll never be willing to tolerate. :mad:

Besides, "adware" is not necessarily harmful, or to be categorized as "malware", but it is annoying. Adobe has been trying to pass off "adware", as "product updates" for at least a decade.
 
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terzaerian

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What's with you and your extreme fanboyism for windows XP? That OS was so problematic that it needed 3 service packs to get rid of some (not all) of the major bugs and still was a broken mess with huge security holes.
Again, it's better to have bugs that can get fixed than malicious features that will never be removed.

I personally wouldn't be using XP as a daily driver in this day and age but if Bullwinkle can make it work for himself, good on him. Its only vice is that it's old, and Windows 10's only virtue is that it's new.
 

Bullwinkle M

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Again, it's better to have bugs that can get fixed than malicious features that will never be removed.

I personally wouldn't be using XP as a daily driver in this day and age but if Bullwinkle can make it work for himself, good on him. Its only vice is that it's old, and Windows 10's only virtue is that it's new.

I use XP for certain things, Linux for others, Spyware Platform 10 for "some" games, and Windows 8.1 for other things

All from the same PC
Yes PC, or "PERSONAL" computer,.................... remember those?

"Personal" computers were made long long ago, in the "before time"

XP is not for everything, but for many things nothing else will ever do!