Leaked photos show a four-slot Zotac RTX 4090 and its divisive design

midian182

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What just happened? Images of what is allegedly a third-party model of the GeForce RTX 4090 have surfaced online. Assuming they're the real deal, the card is, as expected, humongous, with a quad-slot (at least) design and a cooler that extends way beyond the PCB.

The new images from Baidu allegedly show the RTX 4090 AMP Extreme from Zotac. It has a redesigned cooler that seems to be dividing opinion; it's definitely different. The triple-fan card also appears to be at least four slots big, and there's a single 16-pin PCIe Gen 5.0 (12VPWHR) connector, which can deliver 600W across 12 rails, four times as much as an 8-pin connector.

The card also appears to feature the all-new font Nvidia is said to be using for its line of next-gen Lovelace products.

The box shows updated versions of features such as Icestorm 3.0, as well as support for dual BIOS, Firestorm software utilities, and Spectra 2.0 RGB lighting suite.

Many of the rumors about the RTX 4000-series revolve around the RTX 4090. Last month, reports claimed it was in production and would be the first Lovelace card to arrive. It might even be the only one released this year, if a different rumor is to be believed.

There were reported leaked synthetic benchmarks last week showing the RTX 4090 performing 78% faster than the current-gen RTX 3090 Ti flagship in 3DMark Time Spy Extreme while reaching a blistering 3.0 GHz. The same rumor said the card will have a default TDP of 450W, though it is designed for 600W to 800W, which lines up with a previous claim of it having a power limit of 800W but a lower default TDP.

The RTX 4090 with its AD102 GPU has long been expected to be a beast in terms of size, power, and probably price. It's expected to have 16,384 CUDA cores, which is 56% more than the RTX 3090 and a 52% jump over the RTX 3090 Ti. We've also heard it could pack 24 GB of GDDR6X@21 Gbps with a 384-bit bus, enabling a maximum bandwidth of 1 TB/s. We'll no doubt find out more during GTC on September 20.

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redhat

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People want competition not Brute-force competition...
Amd, Intel and Nvidia are fighting for the crown title more than the goal/performance itself
lets see where those nuclear Architectures will lead us
 

yRaz

Posts: 4,627   +5,593
Why do I need room for other add-in cards when I have an nVidia GPU in my system? /s
I'm I've been seening more of is cases that are designed for cooling these things are starting to have a vertical mount on the rear to move the card away from the motherboard on a separate riser PCB.

On a different note I actually kind of like it, There were lots of cool stylist choices back in the early 2000's with game PC's and a risky design like this kind of brings me back to that.
 

Dr Roboto

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At what point do we start buying a GPU as the core of a new computer build and then the CPU/RAM/MB are just add-ons? Should the motherboard hold the GPU and you plug in a CPU card?

Just stop and think about what you are buying here. You pay $3000 for a GPU+VRAM that pulls like 800W. How much do you pay for a high-end CPU+RAM, maybe $1000 and pulls 300W. Long gone are the days that the CPU was the core of your system.
 

wiyosaya

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I'm I've been seening more of is cases that are designed for cooling these things are starting to have a vertical mount on the rear to move the card away from the motherboard on a separate riser PCB.
From a cooling standpoint, it makes some sense to me for a video card to mount it there if there is a way to prevent the heat from a card entering the system - I suppose water cooling or fans that exhaust out the rear would take care of that. Other than those two specific instance, I cannot see it making much of a difference as the heat will still likely go into the case.
On a different note I actually kind of like it, There were lots of cool stylist choices back in the early 2000's with game PC's and a risky design like this kind of brings me back to that.
I built my wife a PC last year with a Fractal Define 7, and that only has a two-slot solution there. Obviously, a four-slot card would not fit there; however, I'm not sure that I totally trust mounting in that way. I'd be worried the ribbon cable used to mount the card would not ensure signal integrity especially for the newer PCI-e standards, I.e., 4.0, 5.0.
 

terzaerian

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I built my wife a PC last year with a Fractal Define 7, and that only has a two-slot solution there. Obviously, a four-slot card would not fit there; however, I'm not sure that I totally trust mounting in that way. I'd be worried the ribbon cable used to mount the card would not ensure signal integrity especially for the newer PCI-e standars, I.e., 4.0, 5.0.
Not to mention we just got rid of ribbon cables, for God's sake, and now you people are trying to sneak them back in? :mad:
 

takaozo

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PC cases must be reimagined, maybe a split case with 3 chambers.
One for MB, one for PSU and one for GPU.
Each with separate cooling.

Now imagine a 2-3 way SLI with those chunkers.
 

Raytrace3D

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Sheesh... there goes using my M.2 4xRiser and SDI capture card... They'll need to start modifying the ATX standard and make it so that motherboards are longer... like, what the heck is the point of having 4 PCIE slot motherboard if you only have room for 1 or 2 cards? :/
 

Adhmuz

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PC cases must be reimagined, maybe a split case with 3 chambers.
One for MB, one for PSU and one for GPU.
Each with separate cooling.

Now imagine a 2-3 way SLI with those chunkers.
ThermalTake tried something similar what feels like forever ago, the Level 10:

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Although I think this design would just make matters that much worse for the motherboard, CPU and RAM :D

Best design would be to have the GPU outputting 600 watts of heat in another room altogether.
 

wiyosaya

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PC cases must be reimagined, maybe a split case with 3 chambers.
One for MB, one for PSU and one for GPU.
Each with separate cooling.

Now imagine a 2-3 way SLI with those chunkers.
Correct me if I am wrong, however, I thought nVidia dropped SLI a generation or two ago. In fact, if you follow this link - https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/technologies/sli many of the links on that page go to the same page, and there appears to be no mention of SLI on that page.
 

nodfor

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This size probably means the cooling will be adequate this time around, so thumbs up?
Prob thumbs down when we see the price though
Manufacturers should adapt and start placing extra pci slots above the gpu one
 

toooooot

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So it was not a fake. I love the design. It looks really distinctive. I would love to see what other companies will come up with regarding design.
 

Gezzer

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From a cooling standpoint, it makes some sense to me for a video card to mount it there if there is a way to prevent the heat from a card entering the system - I suppose water cooling or fans that exhaust out the rear would take care of that. Other than those two specific instance, I cannot see it making much of a difference as the heat will still likely go into the case.

I built my wife a PC last year with a Fractal Define 7, and that only has a two-slot solution there. Obviously, a four-slot card would not fit there; however, I'm not sure that I totally trust mounting in that way. I'd be worried the ribbon cable used to mount the card would not ensure signal integrity especially for the newer PCI-e standards, I.e., 4.0, 5.0.

I've built a number of personal systems using this case:

https://www.newegg.ca/black-cooler-master-haf-series-atx-desktop/p/N82E16811119265

For that very reason. It's footprint is admittedly bigger, but it has so many pluses compared to towers that I just can't bring myself to going back to them.