The EU is going after TikTok and Meta over addictive algorithms and child safety failures

[demonicmaniac]

Just because there was no eu wide government provided age verification doesn't mean the companies can't be held responsible for not doing anything themselves that sufficiently prevented underage users from having access to their platform. These are two completely seperate things. The EU builds the open platform to have a zero knowledge verification anybody CAN use but it's not mandatory, they can employ any other method provided it proves itself good enough for purpose and doesn't violate the GDPR and other european data protection and privacy regulations. This platform simply gives them a no way out of their "BUT BUT it's toooo difficult we poor little companies can't be expected to actually do anything about it" defense they always try to bring up as reason why they can't comply with any regulations or take any responsibilities.

 

[Puiu]

No he wasn’t… and he wasn’t convicted of being a pedophile either…he was found liable - in a civil case - of sexual abuse. Which is very different.

He is probably a scumbag but… it’s not quite as bad as what you are alleging here…

Well, the Nazi party was left wing - my argument is that Hitler wasn’t left wing. That’s a fact… the name National “Socialist” Party kind of gives it away….

It's a civil case because it the statute of limitations, too much time has passed. He is a defacto sexual abuser (the judge himself said it would be considered rape). He just can't be convicted of it anymore. He only had civil cases, some where he settled out of court.

As for being a pedo, he admitted it himself, even if when he said it he didn't realize it back then:

"I'll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else. ...You know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant. And therefore I'm inspecting it. ... Is everyone OK? You know, they're standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good." - Trump 2005

And contestants, who were at the time underage (14-15yo), have come out and said that yes, trump did in fact do that. If this is not a predator, then I don't know who is. All other non-rich men would have been arrested for this, but he got away with it. Like he's also getting away with the epstein files.

Trump is a pedophile and rapist. There's no doubt about this.

 

[Endymio]

It's a civil case because it the statute of limitations, too much time has passed

You just can't stop the disinformation, can you? There is no statute of limitations on rape in New York. And nothing stopped E. Jean from telling her nonsense story thirty years ago to the police -- except Trump wasn't a political foe then, so no reason to fabricate a story.

Trump is a pedophile and rapist. There's no doubt about this.

It's suggestive of yourself that you derail literally every single thread with rape and pedophilia fantasies. At least attempt to stay on topic: this is a thread about TikTok and Meta. Why not at least stick to your lie that "the EU had an app ready but these evil corporations refused to use it?"

 

[Puiu]

Again: stop spreading disinformation, or learn to read your own sources. The app was ***not online** until April 2026, and it's not even widely available until the end of this year. No company in the world -- including no European platform -- was using it last year, for the simple reason it did not exist. The "pilot program" was just that ... a TEST PROGRAM, not available to consumers.

It's right there in the source you posted: "as of April 2026, the app is technically ready, and will be available to citizens soon."

Do you understand what "soon" means? Or "as of April 2026"?


You're certainly very interested in pedophilia; you mention it literally every post.


Not the whole world. Just the Left-wing disinformation specialists. Political parties are judged by their goals and ideology, and Germany's National Socialists espoused, advocated for, and implemented Left-wing policies. This is simple, incontrovertible fact. I'm sorry this triggers you.

I'm so glad you are continuing with this. It shows to the whole world here that you can't read simple sentences that you yourself are writting

You seem to be very VERY confused. The app being online, available to citizens (as you've written in red), has nothing to do with the development of the app and the access companies had to it (other that it's feature complete and ready for public use).

"No company in the world -- including no European platform -- was using it last year, for the simple reason it did not exist." - This is so funny. Your complete lack of technical understanding of what was available is showing here. Companies and government agencies had access to the app since July 2025, a working version that they could test and implement (in a testing environment, obviously). The October version even had the ID and passport verification ready. Not being publicly available has absolutely nothing to do with this.

No wonder you are defending Trump, you lack simple comprehension skills if after even the official timeline still doesn't convince you. This post proves it 100%.

"The blueprint has been available since July 2025 to relevant stakeholders (e.g. Member States, online services, market players) as a toolbox of open-source solutions to adopt the solution seamlessly."

"In October 2025, a second version of the blueprint was released with a passport and identity card method to generate a proof of age. Zero-knowledge proof technology is included in the solution."

How are you this confused dude? Seriously now, how are you this confused?

 

[Puiu]

You just can't stop the disinformation, can you? There is no statute of limitations on rape in New York. And nothing stopped E. Jean from telling her nonsense story thirty years ago to the police -- except Trump wasn't a political foe then, so no reason to fabricate a story.


It's suggestive of yourself that you derail literally every single thread with rape and pedophilia fantasies. At least attempt to stay on topic: this is a thread about TikTok and Meta. Why not at least stick to your lie that "the EU had an app ready but these evil corporations refused to use it?"

I will derail it every time because I can. It's a nice reminded of who you are to the people here and who you are defending.

Anybody who's "confused" about even hitler, has a clear hidden agenda and is ignoring the facts. You cannot accept even know facts about hitler dude... it's just that sad. It's why you cannot accept facts about trump either.

 

[Endymio]

"No company in the world -- including no European platform -- was using it last year, for the simple reason it did not exist." - This is so funny. Your complete lack of technical understanding of what was available is showing here. Companies and government agencies had access to the app since July 2025, a working version that they could test and implement (in a testing environment, obviously).

What? This is so literally insane I'm having trouble believing you actually typed it. A test environment is not the live platform.

No consumers had access to this app. Period. No social media platform could use it to perform age verification. Period. In fact, Meta DID acces the test app and provide feedback to the EU ... which is one of the reasons that "test app" interface has changed so many times, and is just now coming online. That' doesn't change the fact that the EU was demanding Meta do something physically impossible ... verify consumer ages with an app that wasn't available.

 

[Endymio]

Anybody who's "confused" about even hitler, has a clear hidden agenda and is ignoring the facts.

It's clear who's confused. Let's look at the party platform and actions of Germany's National Socialist Party. These are all tenets of the modern-day LEFT:

Powerful central government: Yes.
Expanded Welfare state: Yes.
High "progressive" taxes on wealthy? Yes.
Expanded social safety net? Yes.
Laws against "unfair" profits? Yes.
Free higher education? Yes.
Restrictions on free speech? Nazis? Yes.
Banning and confiscating firearms: Yes.
Tight regulation of corporations? Yes.
Extra rights for labor unions? Yes.
Expanded abortion access? Yes.

 

[Puiu]

What? This is so literally insane I'm having trouble believing you actually typed it. A test environment is not the live platform.

No consumers had access to this app. Period. No social media platform could use it to perform age verification. Period. In fact, Meta DID acces the test app and provide feedback to the EU ... which is one of the reasons that "test app" interface has changed so many times, and is just now coming online. That' doesn't change the fact that the EU was demanding Meta do something physically impossible ... verify consumer ages with an app that wasn't available.

Yeah, you clearly are confused about what's being discussed here. You seem to think that tiktok and meta are "consumers".

"That' doesn't change the fact that the EU was demanding Meta do something physically impossible" - clearly you haven't read or have difficulties reading simple sentences. or maybe you think of meta as being a human and that said human had his limbs broken.

 

[Endymio]

Yeah, you clearly are confused about what's being discussed here. You seem to think that tiktok and meta are "consumers".

What problem are you having comprehending plain English? Meta and Tiktok cannot verify the ages of consumers using a pilot version of an app that cannot be used outside a test environment. What on earth is wrong with your language comprehension skills? Do you know what a test version is, and why it exists?

I will derail [the thread] every time because I can.

Well this certainly speaks for itself.

 

[Puiu]

It's clear who's confused. Let's look at the party platform and actions of Germany's National Socialist Party. These are all tenets of the modern-day LEFT:

Powerful central government: Yes.
Expanded Welfare state: Yes.
High "progressive" taxes on wealthy? Yes.
Expanded social safety net? Yes.
Laws against "unfair" profits? Yes.
Free higher education? Yes.
Restrictions on free speech? Nazis? Yes.
Banning and confiscating firearms: Yes.
Tight regulation of corporations? Yes.
Extra rights for labor unions? Yes.
Expanded abortion access? Yes.

Nothing you wrote makes it a "leftists" and the vast majority of what you wrote were already proven to be fake before. Yes, you read that right, the last time we had this discussion, I took all of your points and broke them down one by one and proved you wrong on all of them.

For example:

The fact that you still use "Banning and confiscating firearms", even though it's not true, shows just how much you love disinformation. They only took weapons from minorities like Jews. The rest? They made it EASIER to get weapons.

"Restrictions on free speech? Nazis?" - Exactly what trump is doing. Congrats.

https://pen.org/banned-words-list/

"Powerful central government" - trump is literally acting as the sole ruler, ignoring congress, the house and judges. Trump literally mocked court orders and ignored them intentionally. Thanks for showing us what the extreme right is capable of and why it's associated with fascism.

"Laws against "unfair" profits?" - The nazis didn't implement such "laws", they had a very different definition of "unfair" compared to the one you are trying to push here in a sick attempt to disinform ppl. The nazi "unfair profits" included something called "Jewish speculation" and rearmament goals. It has absolutely nothing to do with our current definition of unfair profits, but you already knew this and still lied

"Extra rights for labor unions" - Completely false. Why are you lying dude? The nazis destroyed labour unions. They literally killed people in unions. Go read a book on what they did on May 1st and May 2nd of 1933. Stop spreading disinformation.

"High "progressive" taxes on wealthy" - This also never happened. In fact the opposite happened. Another case of you lying through your teeth.

And I won't list every single point again, I already did before and destroyed you and your lies. It's just pathetic to see people, in 2026 with so much information available, spreading disinformation about the freaking nazis. THE FREAKING NAZIS! Who do you think you are to spread such blatant lies?

You are literally telling us who you are with this. Seeing people blatantly lie about nazis in 2026, after we had this exact same discussion before... It's just sad.

 

[Endymio]

Nothing you wrote makes it a "leftists"

Was that a joke? When a political party calls itself Leftist, promotes, espouses, and enacts Leftist policies -- it's a Left-wing party. Period.

The fact that you still use "Banning and confiscating firearms", even though it's not true

Of course it's quite true:

"...The Nazi regime utilized existing gun registration records from the preceding Weimar Republic to disarm political opponents and, notably, to systematically confiscate firearms from Jewish citizens. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass search and seizure programs for guns were enacted...."

Once all the Nazi's political foes were disarmed, they relaxed gun registration laws back to normal -- but only for good Nazi Party Members.

Gun Control in Nazi Germany | Mises Institute

Stephen Halbrook’s new book on gun control in Nazi Germany details the step-by-step process of disarming the German population.

mises.org

https://wyoleg.gov/InterimCommittee/2019/01-201910313-04Handout.pdf

 

[Puiu]

What problem are you having comprehending plain English? Meta and Tiktok cannot verify the ages of consumers using a pilot version of an app that cannot be used outside a test environment. What on earth is wrong with your language comprehension skills? Do you know what a test version is, and why it exists?


Well this certainly speaks for itself.

"Meta and Tiktok cannot verify the ages of consumers using a pilot version of an app that cannot be used outside a test environment. "

Yes they can. This just shows that you have zero technical knowledge about this.

Let me give you an example from my work: when implementing card payments in an eshop, do you think that I don't first use a testing environment to test the whole process? You have a development mode from all payment processors which provides fake cards to test with (including testing not yet publicly available builds/features).

But you are not a programmer, you couldn't have known this.

 

[Endymio]

"Powerful central government" - trump is literally acting as the sole ruler, ignoring congress, the house and judges.

And yet Obama still holds the record for most unconstitutional acts by far, more than Reagan, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and Trump all combined.

Laws against "unfair" profits?" - The nazis didn't implement such "laws",

Oops, wrong again!

"...National Socialist (Nazi) policies against "unfair profits" were deeply embedded in their ideological platform, which blended anti-capitalist rhetoric with anti-semitism. The party's 25-point program demanded the "abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes" and "breaking of interest-slavery" ... these measures were often used to justify the expropriation of assets and the control of private enterprises...."

"Extra rights for labor unions" - Completely false. Why are you lying dude? The nazis destroyed labour unions.

Again: wrong. The early Nazi party granted additional rights to labor unions. Once the Nazis were firmly in power, they banned all independent labor unions, replacing them with a Nazi-controlled union, the German Labor Front.

"High "progressive" taxes on wealthy" - This also never happened. In fact the opposite happened. Another case of you lying through your teeth.

You're 0 for 5. The Nazis not only raised taxes dramatically on both corporations and the rich, they enacted a confiscatory "flight tax" on any wealthy individuals attempting to flee the regime:

"...Early Nazi policy in the 1930s allowed for continued private ownership to secure business cooperation, but it created profit-sharing deals like that with IG Farben in 1933, where any profits over a \(5\%\) return were turned over to the state...."
"The Reich Flight Tax (Reichsfluchtsteuer) was a 1931 law, exploited by the Nazis... It imposed a 25% tax on capital for those with significant assets or income, which, when combined with other restrictions, forced Jews and other wealthy individuals to surrender up to 96% of their wealth upon emigrating...."

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w24106/revisions/w24106.rev1.pdf

Reich Flight Tax - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Puiu]

Was that a joke? When a political party calls itself Leftist, promotes, espouses, and enacts Leftist policies -- it's a Left-wing party. Period.


Of course it's quite true:

"...The Nazi regime utilized existing gun registration records from the preceding Weimar Republic to disarm political opponents and, notably, to systematically confiscate firearms from Jewish citizens. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass search and seizure programs for guns were enacted...."

Once all the Nazi's political foes were disarmed, they relaxed gun registration laws back to normal -- but only for good Nazi Party Members.

Gun Control in Nazi Germany | Mises Institute

Stephen Halbrook’s new book on gun control in Nazi Germany details the step-by-step process of disarming the German population.

mises.org

https://wyoleg.gov/InterimCommittee/2019/01-201910313-04Handout.pdf

"disarm political opponents and, notably, to systematically confiscate firearms from Jewish citizens" - congrats on proving me right.

You are the joke here dude.

as for the links you gave, it's complete BS. the first one is an article from somebody who wrote multiple pro-gun rights articles and completely ignores the reality of what happened in nazi germany. it talks about "society", but in reality, as he wrote in the article, it was all about the jews.

"If you read the 1938 Nazi gun laws closely and compare them to earlier 1928 Weimar gun legislation – as a straightforward exercise of statutory interpretation – several conclusions become clear. First, with regard to possession and carrying of firearms, the Nazi regime relaxed the gun laws that were in place in Germany at the time the Nazis seized power. Second, the Nazi gun laws of 1938 specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. Third, approximately eight months after enacting the 1938 Nazi gun laws, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jewish persons from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms." - On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars, Bernard E. Harcourt, Columbia Law School

TLDR
- Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions introduced further restrictions against Jews, but made it easier German Nationalists' acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition. (previously Germans needed a permit for every gun).
- The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.
- Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.
- The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.
- Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition

 

[Endymio]

"Meta and Tiktok cannot verify the ages of consumers using a pilot version of an app that cannot be used outside a test environment. "

Yes they can. This just shows that you have zero technical knowledge about this.

Let me give you an example from my work: when implementing card payments in an eshop, do you think that I don't first use a testing environment to test the whole process? You have a development mode from all payment processors which provides fake cards to test with (including testing not yet publicly available builds/features).

You're must be intentionally trolling us to post something so quite literally insane. Your "test payment" environment uses FAKE CARDS -- as you yourself admit -- not actual cards and actual payments. Just as the EU's age verification app could not use real consumers to verify ages of those actually using these platforms.

 

[Endymio]

"If you read the 1938 Nazi gun laws closely and compare them to earlier 1928 Weimar gun legislation – as a straightforward exercise of statutory interpretation – several conclusions become clear. First, with regard to possession and carrying of firearms, the Nazi regime relaxed the gun laws that were in place

Oops! You forgot that 1938 is long after the 1933-1935 firearm raids and mass gun seizures. And while the laws on the books were relaxed once all the Jews, Gypsies, and political opponents were safely disarmed -- to actually obtain a gun license in 1938 Germany required the approval and license issuance from a local Nazi office ... approvals which were given only to good Nazi party members. The 1938 specifically excludes so-called "enemies of the state" from owning firearms.

Your own link notes this, albeit indirectly:

"...Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions..."

The only people to receive hunting permits and trusted government workers were also NSDAP members. When you take guns from everyone but your own party members -- you're confiscating guns. Thanks for admitting I was right.

 

[Puiu]

And yet Obama still holds the record for most unconstitutional acts by far, more than Reagan, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and Trump all combined.


Oops, wrong again!

"...National Socialist (Nazi) policies against "unfair profits" were deeply embedded in their ideological platform, which blended anti-capitalist rhetoric with anti-semitism. The party's 25-point program demanded the "abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes" and "breaking of interest-slavery" ... these measures were often used to justify the expropriation of assets and the control of private enterprises...."


Again: wrong. The early Nazi party granted additional rights to labor unions. Once the Nazis were firmly in power, they banned all independent labor unions, replacing them with a Nazi-controlled union, the German Labor Front.


You're 0 for 5. The Nazis not only raised taxes dramatically on both corporations and the rich, they enacted a confiscatory "flight tax" on any wealthy individuals attempting to flee the regime:

"...Early Nazi policy in the 1930s allowed for continued private ownership to secure business cooperation, but it created profit-sharing deals like that with IG Farben in 1933, where any profits over a \(5\%\) return were turned over to the state...."
"The Reich Flight Tax (Reichsfluchtsteuer) was a 1931 law, exploited by the Nazis... It imposed a 25% tax on capital for those with significant assets or income, which, when combined with other restrictions, forced Jews and other wealthy individuals to surrender up to 96% of their wealth upon emigrating...."

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w24106/revisions/w24106.rev1.pdf

Reich Flight Tax - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No wonder you are confused, you did not read anything of what you posted.

"Obama still holds the record for most unconstitutional acts" - That would be trump. And it's not even close. Again you are lying.

"policies against "unfair profits"" - Again with this crap. You still ignore what happened and what the nazis did. You are talking about propaganda points not what they did once in power. The "25-point program" was never fully implemented and only was used for racial discrimination.

What was implemented:
-Race-Based Citizenship (Points 4, 5, 6, & 8)
- Foreign Policy and Territory (Points 1, 2, & 3)
- Authoritarian Control and Censorship (Points 23 & 25)

What wasn't implemented:
- Nationalization of Trusts (Point 13) which talks about the government seizing all mega-corporations. They did the opposite, in 1930s they started a massive privatization wave with the sale of state-owned railways, banks, and steel mills to private business owners.
- Abolition of "Unearned" Income (Point 11)
- Profit-Sharing in Heavy Industry (Point 14)
- Land Reform and Free Expropriation (Point 17)

Hitler ordered the assasination of Gregor Strasser, Ernst Röhm, and other left-leaning party members in 1934, members who were displeased with the fact Hitler did the opposite of what was in the propaganda.

As for the labour unions, you simple are insane dude. They literally raided, confiscated assets and destroyed all of the independent unions and killed their members on May 2nd 1933. This is a historical fact. Again... using propaganda points which allowed them to gain power instead of actual facts... it's just sad. It's like saying that Trump didn't start any wars because he said so before he became president... it's just a dumb argument to make.

Now for the "The Reich Flight Tax" - the points you attribute to the nazis were in fact introduced in 1931 by Heinrich Brüning, the Chancellor of the Weimar Republic, during the height of the Great Depression. Including the 25% tax and restrictions on taking money out of the country. I supposed you don't read many history books and didn't even know about the Weimar Republic.

The Nazis in fact drastically lowered the threshold to stop middle income people from fleeing the country (the complete opposite of what you are claiming) and completely destroyed jews who were forced to emigrate through the Nuremberg Laws and economic boycotts which effectively forced them to pay 25% of their total assets and forced exchange rates for the remaining 75%.
By 1939, the nazis stripped the law of all of its meaning and forced jews to pay fleeing jews over 90% of everything they owned. In 1941 this became 100%. It was used as a legal means of assets theft.

As for the 5% thing, I'm assuming you are talking about the The Loan Polish Decree of 1934 where companies were not allowed to give shareholders cash dividends that exceeded 5-6% of the companies book value. This wasn't a tax on corporations, this was a Central Bank bond loaning "deal" where companies were forced to buy bonds to finance the military. During the war this was raised to 100%.

Again you are intentionally removing context to claim false things. All you can do is lie and lie and lie again.

 

[Puiu]

Oops! You forgot that 1938 is long after the 1933-1935 firearm raids and mass gun seizures. And while the laws on the books were relaxed once all the Jews, Gypsies, and political opponents were safely disarmed -- to actually obtain a gun license in 1938 Germany required the approval and license issuance from a local Nazi office ... approvals which were given only to good Nazi party members. The 1938 specifically excludes so-called "enemies of the state" from owning firearms.

Your own link notes this, albeit indirectly:

"...Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions..."

The only people to receive hunting permits and trusted government workers were also NSDAP members. When you take guns from everyone but your own party members -- you're confiscating guns. Thanks for admitting I was right.

Nothing you said makes any sense. Yeah, it took them a few years to destroy the opposition and the jews. The laws were specificially designed with jews in mind. This is a fact.

If you were loyal to the state, you had a much easier time getting weapons. This is a fact. Thanks for admitting that you lied again.

 

[Endymio]

No wonder you are confused, you did not read anything of what you posted.

"Obama still holds the record for most unconstitutional acts" - That would be trump. And it's not even close. Again you are lying.

Stop spreading disinformation. Obama has more than 110 executive actions declared unconstitutional, including an unprecedented 44 declared so by unanimous 9-0 SCOTUS decisions -- even the justices he himself appointed slapped him down. By far the largest figure in US history, and in fact (if one excludes FDR), it's more than any FIVE other Presidents combined:

Obama Has Faced More Unanimous Supreme Court Smackdowns Than Any Other President

www.ipi.org

 

[Endymio]

If you were loyal to the state, you had a much easier time getting weapons. This is a fact. Thanks for admitting that you lied again.

The Nazis defined "loyal to the state" as being a Nazi Party member. Those were the only ones allowed firearms. The Nazis seized guns and denied gun ownership to everyone else ... as I stated.

 

[Endymio]

Now for the "The Reich Flight Tax" - the points you attribute to the nazis were in fact introduced in 1931 by Heinrich Brüning, the Chancellor of the Weimar Republic,

Learn history. The original tax was 25%, and enacted only on those with assets of over 200,000 RM. The Nazis steadily increased the rate and lowered the threshold until it went as high as 96%, and applied to nearly everyone.

Worse of all, the Nazis didn't simply apply to those emigrating, but to anyone with large amounts of bank assets, under the guise this implied "proof of intent to secrely emigrate".

https://www.nytimes.com/1938/10/25/archives/reichs-escape-tax-nets-111701113marks-levy-imposed-on-most-jews-in.html

Again: you're simply proving me right.