Linus Tech Tips halts production amid allegations of unethical behavior, inaccuracies,...

Sorry but as a person who watches tons of LTT content all the time; it is definitely the REQUIREMENT to have accuracy in your videos. LTT has been known recently to not have any accuracy in their videos or have things done "quick and dirty". I think the company itself has gotten out of hand with so many different channels and directions; they end up with quantity over quality.
That's not what I took issue with, but ok.

Saying that GN wanted to start something is just nuts; they have the most focused and methodological testing process of ANY company.
And yet, they didn't even bother asking for comment before publishing their video with that half-baked story. As I already made clear. And as you didn't even acknowledge.

How about next time read my comment before hitting reply 🤦‍♂️
 
Pretty sure linus has a social media team to go to all the websites and try to discredit Madison (like the be the first one to comment), since inappropriate behavior towards women doesn't happen in a male dominated company, and it's always the victim's fault. /s

As for the company itself, I've stopped taking the company seriously. I just watch it for the experiments they do.

Why would a news outlet ask for comment from the subject before publishing a news article/video? To discuss monetary compensation?
 
Yeah, never liked Jayz channel, or Gamers Nexus. Snooze fests. I do like LTT because its the most entertaining way to get tech knowledge. If Level1Techs would put out more videos that'd be great, cuz Wendell knows his stuff and is, ENTERTAINING. If people wanted boring *** lectures, they'd just take a course at a school, ugh.

I love how quickly the tech creators through Linus under the bus. Calling out another youtuber with a 45min video when he could have just called him, yeah called him to voice concerns about, yeah someone elses channel. My money is in the long run, Steves long winded, boring *** youtube channel will go down in history as a channel that had integrity, but was otherwise not worth watching.

 
Linus Sebastian is what we used to call a 'used car salesman'. Super nervous, sensationalist and in your face. The style is very effective for business and used by other famous media figures like Alex Jones, I give Sebastian credit for presenting some good information. Many people actually like his style. They find it entertaining.

In contrast I have always liked and respected Steve Walton and Steve Burke for their thoughtful, incisive and even paced reviews.
 
I will still watch LTT content for now. If things degrade further I'll stop watching, like I did with JayzTwoCents, which I stopped watching completely.

Why did you stop watching JayzTwoCents? Something I don’t know about?
 
I don't like watching any of these channels - the voices of these people bug me, especially Linus the most (whiny, nasally and pubescent sounding). Honestly, I'd never hear about these people if it wasn't for tech sites posting news stories about them or people on tech forums posting stories about them. I didn't even know what a MrBeast was until a saw the story about him getting sued and apparently he's the biggest thing on youtube.

I do know many of these youtube channels and social media "influencers" that are well known make a crap ton of money for dribble they drool out of their mouths. Good to see some of them knocked down a few pegs, if you ask me.
 
Linus Sebastian is what we used to call a 'used car salesman'. Super nervous, sensationalist and in your face. The style is very effective for business and used by other famous media figures like Alex Jones, I give Sebastian credit for presenting some good information. Many people actually like his style. They find it entertaining.

In contrast I have always liked and respected Steve Walton and Steve Burke for their thoughtful, incisive and even paced reviews.

You put into words my thoughts on this exactly. The Two Steves (and Tim Schiesser) would never, for instance, make a video where they build an xbox controller out of solid gold. LTT is nowadays halfway between a technical site and Pewdiepie. Also seems to have become a bit of a soap opera of Linus's private life which I couldn't give a rats *** about.
 
There is one main issue I have with all of this drama for how it was initially reported on by GN that his audience didn't seem to care about (as it fit their bias against LTT), and people don't seem to want to keep updated on (people are still ignorantly quoting the wrong things about the situation): The Billet labs prototype auction situation.

All GN needed to do for that one was get a comment on what was going on. It wasn't an old enough story to assume malice or neglect, and considering the follow up to that story, they obviously should've done more due diligence as a self proclaimed journalist.
GN's overall point was that LTT has begun to act recklessly. With regards to Billet Labs, they showed video proof of both main points:

1) Linus reviewing a cooler intended for a 3090, on a 4090, and blamed the vendor for the associated installation and performance challenges.

2) He auctioned a prototype off

Neither charge has been refuted nor could it since it's on video. Whether or not LTT had already began a process to compensate the cost of the prototype is a mere footnote and not the main point. Nor is it obvious they genuinely had.

I may be biased here because I have worked at smaller companies that have built prototypes, and I know firsthand how incredibly valuable those prototypes are. I'm not talking just about the fabrication cost, which can be substantial. There is also tremendous opportunity cost. You can not just write another check and get one made the next day. The startup probably had to fight like heck to get everything lined up to produce one; who knows how many weeks/months it will take to receive another, and whether their funding will last that long. The idea that Linus would blast their product via a faulty review, and then ensure that no one else could review the prototype because no one cared enough to return it promptly nor keep it being auctioned off without any authorization to do so, is just plain awful.

I don't need any explanation to know that LTT's motivation was not to commit theft for the dollars. I doubt a single person watching the video thought so, nor did Steve come close to implying that. Steve's point was that LTT's recklessness was causing real harm to people, and he demonstrated that. No response from LTT was immediately necessary. (Goes 10x because Linus has his own platform, much larger than GN's, so there is no danger that LTT would not be able to tell their side of the story to the extent they have one -- which as far as I can tell they do not.)

btw I'm not sure there's a large audience of GN fans who hate LTT. I'm an example of someone who has enjoyed content from both. My hope for this drama is that it results in LTT slowing down just a little bit, so they can keep doing what they do well and just make less mistakes while doing it.
 
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Phew, I was afraid they were stopping production permanently. If I want a deep dive and full attention to technical details I will go to Phoronix. But I enjoy LTT's videos and they review a lot of items that Phoronix wouldn't. Here's hoping they clean house and come back better than ever in a week.
 
So it's not a cash grab because "other people" backed it up. I sense flawless leftoid logic here. Let me ask you. Where was she and all those "other people" before LTT got themselves into precarious position thanks to GN video? Surely she could press the charges if what she claims was real.
She has already stated where she was and why she didn't press charges. You would know why, if you actually are a neutral person looking at the facts and timeline.

She has already dropped an anonymous review in Glassdoor, and the issue has been known internally given that immediately after she quits, a half-assed HR meeting was done (the company we work for, in comparison, takes data control meeting more seriously). There is a video posted, repeatedly, on Reddit, which has always been downvoted to hell until recently.

She has also already stated that she's not in great financial situation. She was busy, you know, putting her life back together. But she did put out her issues, and judging by her old role being divided up more appropriately, her issues have at least helped the team so that no one would be in the same overworked situation and with unwanted roles she was in - it speaks greatly to her character, that she tried to be amicable and helped the people that would succeed her.

I would recommend you read her actual statements, as well as the timelines people have made, before you continue with your dogwhistling, because without that it gets really obvious what you're trying to say.
 
I love how quickly the tech creators through Linus under the bus. Calling out another youtuber with a 45min video when he could have just called him, yeah called him to voice concerns about, yeah someone elses channel.
I also love how Linus' team would put down the work of other teams, who are very particular about their methodology and how they get to their final conclusions, despite their data also not being very accurate. Maybe before they brag about Labs vs GN & HUB Steve's, they should actually make sure they have a good process that they can stand behind without constant stealth correction.

And GN has been very clear about his stance on LMG for ages. This didn't come out of nowhere - GN has been publishing videos where they state that they will be viewing LMG as a company that will be evaluated like any other companies they have dealt with. Considering that they have been known for calling out MSI and other companies, that is about as blatant as a boss talking about poor performance as signal for you to find a job somewhere else.

Asking for comments would be a courtesy, but it's not needed. Especially when they already have WAN Show where they had a chance to address all the allegations being brought, none of which are new, just comprehensively re-presented to a audience that had been skeptical before because of LMG's reputation. And GN did right, when immediately Linus tried to gaslight everyone as if he hasn't done any wrong and that they have taken care of the Billet Labs issues. That is who Linus truly is- someone who wouldn't want to admit culpability, no matter the truth.
 
You'd have to be a complete ***** to take anything Linus does or says seriously on LTT I only watch him to see what other super expensive item he's going to drop and damage he's a dumb F&^% and a clutz

As for the Labs they need their own channel and to do things properly to be taken seriously otherwise I can see LMG going down the gurgler very quickly
 
Madison's allegations have been backed up by other people who have worked there. It's not a cash grab. Interesting that your first response to the entirety of the article is to cast a woman making serious allegations of wrongdoing as a gold-digger.
Maybe because a lot of such cases turn out to be just like that, cash grabs? Why is it that it's always some big shot with a lot of money being the harasser, and some nobody being the plaintiff? Coincidence, right?

Remember Kevin Spacey? Remember Johnny Depp?
 
Oh the pitch fork crowd and the defending crowd...

LMG is a YT sensation, they aren't going any where and wishing they died a painful and slow death isn't going to change that, it just shows your immaturity.

Calling GN a garbage channel shows that those people are a little unhinged too. This isn't about your personal preference, or LMG or GN or even HU.

There is a standard that needs to be met when people rely on you for buying advice, no matter how big or small. LMG failed, and some other situations (Billet) were not handled right.

However, grow up, and stop grabbing pitch forks or even worse defending these issues.
They needed a wake up call, they got one lets move on, the world would be a sucky place with out all of theses YT channels, just because someone else doesn't like LTT or GN, or HU for that matter is personal preference. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinion and those channels don't succeed or fail based on your opinions, and never will!
As far as the Madison issue, I wont comment, that just needs to be investigated and proven, but people saying she lied or didn't, just shows immaturity, YOU DON'T KNOW.

Move on, Everyone needs a wake up call at some point in life. LMG got theirs, how they continue in the future will decide their fate. Not you or your wishes!
 
I may be biased here because I have worked at smaller companies that have built prototypes, and I know firsthand how incredibly valuable those prototypes are. I'm not talking just about the fabrication cost, which can be substantial. There is also tremendous opportunity cost. You can not just write another check and get one made the next day. The startup probably had to fight like heck to get everything lined up to produce one; who knows how many weeks/months it will take to receive another, and whether their funding will last that long. The idea that Linus would blast their product via a faulty review, and then ensure that no one else could review the prototype because no one cared enough to return it promptly nor keep it being auctioned off without any authorization to do so, is just plain awful.
Point and case for how half-baked the story was that you've made these assumptions. Initially, Billet Labs gave LTT the prototype to use for future builds (as it was found out after, and can be seen in the apology video) and they only changed their minds after the negative LTT review came out (which was understandable). Which makes this whole paragraph moot, since they weren't originally expecting the block back.

I don't need any explanation to know that LTT's motivation was not to commit theft for the dollars. I doubt a single person watching the video thought so, nor did Steve come close to implying that. Steve's point was that LTT's recklessness was causing real harm to people, and he demonstrated that. No response from LTT was immediately necessary. (Goes 10x because Linus has his own platform, much larger than GN's, so there is no danger that LTT would not be able to tell their side of the story to the extent they have one -- which as far as I can tell they do not.)

btw I'm not sure there's a large audience of GN fans who hate LTT. I'm an example of someone who has enjoyed content from both. My hope for this drama is that it results in LTT slowing down just a little bit, so they can keep doing what they do well and just make less mistakes while doing it.
His audience needed the explanation, as a lot of them most certainly assumed that LTT stole the prototype, sold it off for profit, and should get sued (as that was/is a lot of the comments surrounding the drama).
Which clearly meant that GN should've got the other side to the story before running it (as I've been saying).

Larger platform or not, GN is well known in the space and is supposedly known as "the gold standard" (as one of his fans put it regarding this situation). So such a fumble with such a drama-creating story should get called out and corrected too.
 
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Funny how these allegations only come up when a company suffers unrelated PR issues, despite all the "suffering" that occurs. You'd think that women who suffer such serious offenses would want to hold these people accountable, they'd want to file police reports when proof is still fresh and security camera footage can be obtained; especially since these reports are taken seriously and we always assume guilty before proven innocent when these claims are made, but they only do it when there is social media attention to be had.

Hmmmm......That darned pattern recognition!

Funny how some men of certain political inclination are immediately triggered when a woman claims sexual harassment and they cry foul loudly.

And they still do that even after a jury decides the claims are true and proven!!!

They should give it a rest, it reflects VERY badly on their moral compass (if they still remember what that means).
 
The lab tour comment is hardly anything, just some arrogance.

The Billet Labs thing needs more information, especially what agreements were signed, but it seems LMG just had intra-communication issues. That it was meant for a 3090 doesn't really change the conclusion: it's an expensive enthusiast product aimed at and appropriate for the very few.

As for Madison. It never seemed like a good idea to hire her in the first place. And from the get go, it didn't seem like they really wanted her there in the first place.

To the sexual harassment allegations though: I can imagine it happening at a predominantly male workplace and I understand it can be hard to come forward with them. But with little if any evidence and it having been left so long now... it's just too late even if they did happen.
 
Why did you stop watching JayzTwoCents? Something I don’t know about?
I had issues with how he does his reviews for a long time (clear mistakes, low number of data points, weird opinions, etc), but I generally still watched them.

But I took serious issue with him accepting Nvidia's 4060 early review "offer" which spammed youtube with positive videos about the 4060 a day early before the actual third party reviews. Then he had the gall to tell me that he wasn't paid for it... as if getting an one day early video on the 4060 didn't make him money when everybody else who refused to do something this unethical was still under NDA.
 
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Point and case for how half-baked the story was that you've made these assumptions. Initially, Billet Labs gave LTT the prototype to use for future builds (as it was found out after, and can be seen in the apology video) and they only changed their minds after the negative LTT review came out (which was understandable). Which makes this whole paragraph moot, since they weren't originally expecting the block back.
This is not true, you should check fact before calling someone mis informed, when you are.
Billet originally sent it to them without expressing a return. However when Linus shat all over it and did not test it properly, they did request it be returned for someone else to test and LMG agreed as stated in LMGs own video.

 
This is not true, you should check fact before calling someone mis informed, when you are.
Billet originally sent it to them without expressing a return. However when Linus shat all over it and did not test it properly, they did request it be returned for someone else to test and LMG agreed as stated in LMGs own video.

.......Did you even read what you replied to?! That's pretty much what I said in the paragraph you quoted 🤦‍♂️
 
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