Lost my media players

By thrival ยท 20 replies
Mar 9, 2009
  1. All started on a cobbled machine/drivers, apparently some script kiddie while just
    surfing google, co-opted that system, chugging and chugging but not going
    anywhere; so a friend helped me migrate my HD with Windows98SE to an HP7920.
    Since the hardware is meant for WinME, I suppose I'm just asking for trouble.

    So this newer system at least runs, but the media players freeze up, need to
    reboot. (Also the movies won't play.) I've removed all audio & graphics drivers in
    safe-mode, run CCleaner and let Windows CD reinstall the drivers it wants. I've
    upgraded the monitor and MoBo drivers (intel 810 chipset). These fixes worked
    twice, but same ol'-same-ol', again. .Vxd prompts are what I get, msngr32, has
    lapses, forgets what it should do. I don't see any conflicts in device manager,
    everything looks to be working properly. Attempts to fix were done without any
    firewall or AV protection. Registry was cleaned as best i know how.

    (Saw in another post, could this be a dead or dying battery?)
  2. Neonic

    Neonic TS Rookie Posts: 24

    Im sorry i could not understand any of what you wrote, could you rephrase it.

    Also please include indepth system specifications, OS, Hardware, etc etc
  3. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    You must re-install Windows 98SE if putting the drive into another computer
    It will then load all the correct drivers without conflict
  4. Neonic

    Neonic TS Rookie Posts: 24

    Well i didnt quite understand what you were saying but if that is the case and you have simply swapped the HDD into a new system without formatting then yes, kimsland is 100% correct. you MUST fully format & reinstall if you change the hardware to that extent otherwise you really are asking for trouble,
  5. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thanks for replying.

    It's an HP 7920 with Cognac 20010412 Mobo running Win98SE. I think this
    hardware originally came with ME but its HD was toast so we just swapped mine
    in. Yes we (my tech friend & I) reinstalled Win98SE to hopefully fetch the needed
    drivers but a graphics driver and intel 810 chipset drivers were missing so we
    searched the web, found and installed them. I've got noscript, free zonealarm
    and Avast! antivirus installed now.

    If I try to run a media player it just freezes everything and I need to reboot or
    nothing works.

    (I was interrupted while typing this message when my browser froze up. My system
    could be compromised by a script-kiddie exploit, or some other, although the
    above programs have not detected, system seems too fragile sometimes to even
    run diagnostics.)
  6. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

  7. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Hmmm is right. I will try the HP keyboard & mouse drivers updates and see if that

    Well I installed the HP keyboard/mouse fix/driver and it eliminated
    the annoying relay/click that kept occurring as was being "pinged."
    I didn't think I needed it because I'm not using an HP mouse/keyboard
    but it helped a little.

    Spoke too soon, relay click is still there...

    but anyway, media-player doesn't work, freezes up, ctrl/alt/del shows
    program not responding, just hangs; need to shutdown at the switch.

    Running other programs (document converter) causes blue-screen. Still
    able to surf, firefox still works.
  8. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Please run Memtest on your Ram

    And thanks for editing and adding too :grinthumb
    Instead of creating a new reply, now is ok though
  9. Neonic

    Neonic TS Rookie Posts: 24

    Might also want to paste the blue screen details here, might shed some light on the issue
  10. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Downloaded memtest, now 7-zip; (not familiar with ISO ext./format.)
    Maybe I wasn't 100% clear, I didn't reformat the disk before migrating to the
    HP 7920, just re-ran Win98SE setup; too many critical data files to reformat,
    waiting for flash-drive in the mail, to move stuff to another computer. Then
    maybe a complete reformat is possible, but probably to Ubuntu.

    Sometimes there's no blue-screen, just lock-up; (depends upon the program.)
  11. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Actually don't format. Instead remove the Partition.
    Any Windows Setup CD can do that for you (from booting from it)

    A clean install is done when the Harddrive starts without any Partition created
    Then just let Windows create the Partition either automatically (as in above XP) or manually (only) for the older Windows 98 Setup CD (and by using that CD)
  12. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    er, well if I did that (removed the partition), wouldn't that merge my C & D drives?
    Lose data?

    ...in the mean time I don't know how to run the memtest .iso extension. Turns out
    that 7-zip was just a bunch of crapware.

    I've got a bunch of old registry files but because the reference to the original
    programs are missing, I don't know if I can safely remove them or not without
    affecting existing programs.
  13. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Well you said 3 things

    1. Yes it would merge the partitions, but you can just remove the single partition you are working off. And obviously this is done after backing up (actually this was a two part answer :) )

    2. I wrote that Memtest guide, please follow what I said: https://www.techspot.com/vb/post653029-21.html

    3. Registry files? Just back these up, as I don't want to go through them individually
  14. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    There's a huge knowledge gap between you and me. I've never done
    any of those things you suggest, and i think I better copy/transfer my drives
    before I even try.

    My windows version doesn't support jzip so I can't run memtest yet.
  15. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Good point, you must create the Memtest boot CD on a newer than Windows ME system. I forgot to say that ;) :D
  16. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    There's a university computer lab close by, with fast computers. I can download and burn there, but not run those applications. I've got the memtest app on my HD now, are you saying that if
    I burn it to CD that it will run stand-alone, without j-zip?
  17. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    I'm not sure why you are bringing up this Zip program
    But yes just burn (meaning mount) the ISO to a CD
    As in the guide (again with the guide :rolleyes: ) you may need a free ISO burning program. But most computers have Nero or some burning software installed already

    Then boot off it (start your computer from CD)
    This is all assuming that your old computer has the option for CD as first boot device.
    If it doesn't then that's just getting too old
  18. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I brought up the zip program because assumed from your page it was needed to
    open the .iso extension, as 7-zip claims to do.

    I unzipped and copied the memtest app files to disk but they do NOT boot my
    computer from start-up or run when i click them. I mentioned my ignorance of
    these matters, now you can see how deep.
  19. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    Oh, now I understand

    No you use the ISO burning program to open and burn the ISO file
    You do not unzip the ISO ever
    I also provided pics to help here: https://www.techspot.com/vb/post653029-21.html
    But, I am willing to change the guide if it is still confusing
  20. thrival

    thrival TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I have nero burner.

    Your file is named: memtest86+-2.11.iso.zip

    If I burn that to a CD it will still have the .zip extension.

    Are you saying that if I then open the .zip file from the
    CD, it will behave differently?
  21. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    You unzip the memtest86+-2.11.iso.zip to get the ISO first ;)
    Then continue with the quote below
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