May's Steam hardware survey shows slow but steady growth for RTX cards, GTX 1060 remains...

[Evernessince]

I dunno how AMD stays afloat with these types of numbers.

More people running 1070’s, 1070ti’s, 1080’s and 1080ti’s than AMD’s 580’s which are comparable and more affordable than the top spot 1060. Do they have any shot at all?

Consoles, deals with samsung, and Ryzen. If it wasn't for Ryzen coming out last year, AMD likely would have been looking at impending bankruptcy right now.

And to the article, no Navi will make zero difference. People still buy the 1050 over the RX 570. Half the performance for the same price. At this point AMD would make more money advertising then it would sinking that money into R&D.

 

[Evernessince]

AMD released a card that was better than the popular 1060 for the and same price no one bought it. Blind ignorant uneducated Consumers are the problem.

Lack of competition in the high end*

You kind of prove his point. If people are buying lower end cards based off a higher tier card's performance then you are in fact ignorant.

 

[ShObiT]

Lol I knew it! Now you need to ask people with pre builts or people with low budget 400w power supplies why they didn´t buy a RX580 instead of a GTX 1060.

Bullshit again I have a Prebuilt Xeon with 50$ bronze PSU with an RX570, so Bullshit Again.

 

[grumblguts]

Baffles me just how stupid people are spending twice as much on a graphics card when its slower.
https://I.imgur.com/rIRKG9F.jpg

Cherry Picked benchmarks? We need the big picture my friend, not one benchmark.

what you mean like this ?
https://I.imgur.com/ertfEt4.jpg
If I was cherry picking I would of gone for doom or bf1

 

[grumblguts]

When a 2070 costs in excess of £600 almost double the price of its competitor and is slower in some games than the tear below like a Vega 56 its time to ask yourself why are you buying it.....
Not even looking at the £150 worth of free games you get.
Honestly common sense has reached is lowest point in history.
Am you paying to much ?
https://I.imgur.com/rIRKG9F.jpg
https://I.imgur.com/ertfEt4.jpg

 

[Ravalo]

AMD released a card that was better than the popular 1060 for the and same price no one bought it. Blind ignorant uneducated Consumers are the problem.

Lack of competition in the high end*

The rx vega 64 can be found for 400$ but its not a very intuitive card because you need to undervolt the card to get better power consumption, more OC headroom and more fps

 

[LogiGaming]

Hardware unboxed did several tests that disprove the cost of electricity is a factor when buying a video card. If you are gaming on a laptop. To be blunt it is dumb. If you bought a 1060 over a 580 Again dumb. But Hey you be you.

And you obviously missed the part where the cost of electricity was a MEME that I made, the whole argument was about people having pre builts and 400w or low budget PSUs that don´t even have the required PCIe connectors for a RX 580. Now go read again and maybe you can understandm, gosh.

 

[grumblguts]

Baffles me just how stupid people are spending twice as much on a graphics card when its slower.
https://I.imgur.com/rIRKG9F.jpg

Cherry Picked benchmarks? We need the big picture my friend, not one benchmark.

This is when I cherry pick.
https://I.imgur.com/7QcUg10.jpg

 

[LogiGaming]

AMD released a card that was better than the popular 1060 for the and same price no one bought it. Blind ignorant uneducated Consumers are the problem.

Because that card is not on laptops like gtx 1060 is, and because some PC users PSUs don´t even have the required PCIe cables for RX580 wich uses almost double the power of a GTX 1060.

 

[LogiGaming]

Bullshit again I have a Prebuilt Xeon with 50$ bronze PSU with an RX570, so Bullshit Again.

RX 570 is not RX 580. "BS again". Yeah, you are right. You need to start reading properly.

 

[LogiGaming]

what you mean like this ?
https://I.imgur.com/ertfEt4.jpg
If I was cherry picking I would of gone for doom or bf1

Nah "bro", I mean like this:

 

[LogiGaming]

When a 2070 costs in excess of £600 almost double the price of its competitor and is slower in some games than the tear below like a Vega 56 its time to ask yourself why are you buying it.....
Not even looking at the £150 worth of free games you get.
Honestly common sense has reached is lowest point in history.
Am you paying to much ?
https://I.imgur.com/rIRKG9F.jpg
https://I.imgur.com/ertfEt4.jpg

Your country prices really suck dude, feel bad for you /s

Joking, you find the same price on pretty much any European Amazon, Caseking or Mindfactory. Next argument please.

btw 600£ = 678€

Your lie was only as big as 200€. Nothing big. /s

 

[NightAntilli]

The only thing I'm surprised about is the lack of the 570 on the list as it's simply the best deal out there. Clearly people don't mind paying $30 more for a faster product, even if it's a slightly worse deal.

Or a slower product... Hello 1050 Ti.

 

[Evernessince]

Hardware unboxed did several tests that disprove the cost of electricity is a factor when buying a video card. If you are gaming on a laptop. To be blunt it is dumb. If you bought a 1060 over a 580 Again dumb. But Hey you be you.

And you obviously missed the part where the cost of electricity was a MEME that I made, the whole argument was about people having pre builts and 400w or low budget PSUs that don´t even have the required PCIe connectors for a RX 580. Now go read again and maybe you can understandm, gosh.

Steve already thoroughly debunked the whole OEM PC nonsense.

It's not a valid excuse for buying cards with rubbish value.

 

[Squid Surprise]

When a 2070 costs in excess of £600 almost double the price of its competitor and is slower in some games than the tear below like a Vega 56 its time to ask yourself why are you buying it.....
Not even looking at the £150 worth of free games you get.
Honestly common sense has reached is lowest point in history.
Am you paying to much ?
https://I.imgur.com/rIRKG9F.jpg
https://I.imgur.com/ertfEt4.jpg

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-64/3918vs3933

And yet your "non-cherry-picked" benchmark showed the 64 beating the 1080Ti...

Maybe stop trolling and give in...

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compa...AMD-RX-Vega-64-LC-Liquid-Cooled/3918vsm353890
That's even more of a laugh

 

[grumblguts]

This must of hurt.
https://I.imgur.com/7QcUg10.jpg

 

[treetops]

#1 It's nice to see Nvidia with a comfortable lead (total dominance) in online gaming hardware configurations. Thank you Steam.


#2 It's time to work on replacing the 1060 with the RTX 2060. Rays must be traced.

#3 Will Navi make a difference?

Maybe, if it's lucky, it can occupy the 10th or the 11th spot?

Yeah the 2060 cost almost double the price of the 960 on release 4 years ago. Were still being price gouged. Nvidia has always been at the top, but they are really taking advantage of us.
"We don't have enough cards it's supply and demand that's why our cards now cost double"
"We have to many cards that's why our cards cost double"

 

[dogofwars]

I dunno how AMD stays afloat with these types of numbers.

More people running 1070’s, 1070ti’s, 1080’s and 1080ti’s than AMD’s 580’s which are comparable and more affordable than the top spot 1060. Do they have any shot at all?

Mining took many of these cards out of gamers. 2 years ago when the crave for AMD cards began AMD did more money than Nvidia. RX 580 and 570 were the most popular cards for mining. Can't explain why these cards are not more popular now though. Since mining has collapsed with GPUs and we have many used and cheap GPUs on the market.

Probably because those mining cards were not installed in system that had Steam in it so they don't get track.

 

[dogofwars]

Lol I knew it! Now you need to ask people with pre builts or people with low budget 400w power supplies why they didn´t buy a RX580 instead of a GTX 1060.

Bullshit again I have a Prebuilt Xeon with 50$ bronze PSU with an RX570, so Bullshit Again.

Manufacturer recommend 500W for the RX 580

Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 400 W for the 1060

So regardless what we know most peoples will go with the minimum.

 

[ZackL04]

Yeah the 2060 cost almost double the price of the 960 on release 4 years ago. Were still being price gouged. Nvidia has always been at the top, but they are really taking advantage of us.
"We don't have enough cards it's supply and demand that's why our cards now cost double"
"We have to many cards that's why our cards cost double"

1.75x price*

Ya its higher, but if amd cant compete and doesnt drop their prices, why should Nvidia? The 2060 is the performance of a 1070ti wish cost what $450? So technically we get a $100 discount for the same performance

 

[darkgtx]

3060 is about to start replacing the 1060 when its released next year.

 

[144hzGamer]

Hardware unboxed did several tests that disprove the cost of electricity is a factor when buying a video card. If you are gaming on a laptop. To be blunt it is dumb. If you bought a 1060 over a 580 Again dumb. But Hey you be you.

And you obviously missed the part where the cost of electricity was a MEME that I made, the whole argument was about people having pre builts and 400w or low budget PSUs that don´t even have the required PCIe connectors for a RX 580. Now go read again and maybe you can understandm, gosh.

Steve already thoroughly debunked the whole OEM PC nonsense.

It's not a valid excuse for buying cards with rubbish value.

A psu having a single 6 pin PCIe connector and not being able to connect a RX580 to it is a freaking valid excuse. People dont buy cards that they cant use on their PC. If a kid checks gtx 1060 and rx580 are very similar, kid will next research how many pins it needs and ends up buying the card that is compatible with his psu. I dont think this is hard to understand. RX580 uses almost same power as a RTX 2080, please.

 

[Evernessince]

A psu having a single 6 pin PCIe connector and not being able to connect a RX580 to it is a freaking valid excuse. People dont buy cards that they cant use on their PC. If a kid checks gtx 1060 and rx580 are very similar, kid will next research how many pins it needs and ends up buying the card that is compatible with his psu. I dont think this is hard to understand. RX580 uses almost same power as a RTX 2080, please.

Already discussed and debunked in the video. I don't think this is hard to understand, watch the video. If you don't think one of Steve's points are valid then quote and timestamp it and link here.

Steve clearly points out multiple issues with this from the cheap OEM system bottlenecking the GPU and the fact that a much better power supply then OEM can be had for $30 (or $15 after rebate if you go EVGA 500w).

You really should not be putting anything above a GTX 1050 or RX 570 in an OEM build unless it's a gaming build (and even then you should check the specs).

And yes, we know the RX 580 eats a lot of power, it's a refresh of a last gen card, which is why AMD's Navi is right around the corner. The RX 570 though is almost as good and significantly more power efficient.

 

[144hzGamer]

Already discussed and debunked in the video. I don't think this is hard to understand, watch the video. If you don't think one of Steve's points are valid then quote and timestamp it and link here.

Steve clearly points out multiple issues with this from the cheap OEM system bottlenecking the GPU and the fact that a much better power supply then OEM can be had for $30 (or $15 after rebate if you go EVGA 500w).

You really should not be putting anything above a GTX 1050 or RX 570 in an OEM build unless it's a gaming build (and even then you should check the specs).

And yes, we know the RX 580 eats a lot of power, it's a refresh of a last gen card, which is why AMD's Navi is right around the corner. The RX 570 though is almost as good and significantly more power efficient.

You like to skip words too. No one talked abou OEM only, there are a lot of power supplies without the necessary 8+6 pins for a RX580. FML even Corsair and Seasonic low budget power supplies do not have the required pcie connectors. Check Corsair CX450 for example, wich is an already very solid PSU for the money, or check Seasonic S12 .

And just before you come out and say "you can upgrade your psu for 50€", YES I know we can and thats what most people do, But there are a lot of users that dont want to buy a new psu and opts for the card that will work. This is what op meant in the first place. No one is saying everyone has 1060 instead of rx580 because of psu, is just ANOTHER factor added to the fact gtx 1060 is on laptops, added to the fact it uses less power, added to the fact ppl prefer nvidia, etc etc etc

To me, you are one of the most problematic/weird/annoying users on this website. We have to take into account every little single detail on our posts when we talk to you, because you will always find a way to try to argue and turn things to your favour.

 

[Squid Surprise]

This must of hurt.
https://I.imgur.com/7QcUg10.jpg

Only your credibility...