Microsoft Edge is the only one of the four big browsers that can stream Netflix at 1080p

Microsoft just got to 1080p for netflix? I thought sony is selling 8k tvs.
Sharp has an 8K TV so does Hisense now ( Sharp TV Americas owner now ) No consumer 8K Sony yet but I have a 2015 4K HDR Sony XBR in here and it's stonking good you can not see pixels at 2 ft !.


Microsoft has been supporting 1080p Netflix and Netflix super HD (the old super HD Netflix 5800kbps highest 1080p bit rate codec there until recently which is a lower adaptive bit rate now but more efficient ) ...
Maybe Netflix started windows PC 1080p not long after it came out on the extenders specifically in Windows 8.1 IE 11 X64 only at the time before Edge and IE 11 X64 in Windows 10 . I was screwing around with all that in maybe ~ 2014 or so .

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Though I don't use the PC for netflix much and primarily watch it on the shield at HD or 4K I had to check chrome and sure enough it plays at 720p (ctrl+shift+alt+d to show) was quite amazed thats pretty poor. I dont have a 4K monitor and not moving my pc downstairs so not sure if it also doesn't stream at 4k?

Right ....Edge is still unstable, frequently locks up and more with multiple tabs
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At work I use a mix of chrome and edge (we have some pdf download functions that refuse to work in chrome) and I agree that were frequently see edge (and IE 11) stopping responding with only 5 or 6 tabs open. The only way to close is to end task as you cant click on any tabs at all.
 
It depends I think. At least from what I've heard the initial extensions are in-house only, so not sure if they're going to disallow 3rd party extensions permanently, or just temporarily. I doubt they'll disallow permanently, however this is Microsoft we're talking about lol, and they have a history of lodging their head up their rear end lol.


Right ....Edge is still unstable, frequently locks up and more with multiple tabs open and half the functions don't work right .....don't belive the hype all its good for are videos that wont load or play well in other browsers and 1080p Netflix and downloading a better browser


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Hate to say it, but true --- I've been having issues with 'Close All Tabs' working for the past 3 Insider builds now. And if you have Edge, you have Windows 10, which means you have access to the Netflix app ---- so how is this even a factor?
 
Netflix is is mostly or only using HTML5 now on the web .... AFAIK Silverlight never supported 1080p Netflix anyway and nobody's been working on it for years, it's going the way of Windows Media Player with my blessings and likewise for WMP even You tube ditched Silver light altogether
Can't say I'm disappointed. The only reason I liked it was because it wasn't Flash.
 
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When Edge gets extension support, it's going to be waaay better than Chrome.

Very true LOL, but "when" is going to be in a few weeks --- when it comes to extension support going live. Anniversary Update is coming August 2nd.

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Hate to say it, but true --- I've been having issues with 'Close All Tabs' working for the past 3 Insider builds now. And if you have Edge, you have Windows 10, which means you have access to the Netflix app ---- so how is this even a factor?

Right and right the meager selection of extensions ain't all that or all that stable and the extensions only slow down a barely functional on maybe two open tabs web browser that already struggles to work at a minimum functionality and productivity far below Chrome and Firefox ☺



I'm using the current Windows 10 fast ring test build 14388.rs1 (clean install on an SSD) which is probably 98 % of what the anniversary update and Edge will be aside from some de bugging in progress including the Edge extensions we have already .

While these W-10 red-stone one test builds we been driving for a good while
(at this point ) are miles ahead of what the public has now under the hood and feature wise ...............don't get your hopes up too high for Edge it's still a wreck in progress but it can play some videos better than the other browsers and videos they will not play and Netlix 1080p ...... but aside from all that it's still mainly only good for downloading a better browser which I've done maybe 3 times this week with the accelerated cadence that new test builds are coming out to us prior to the August public update which implies there is still de bugging to do on the redstone one builds ....and the persistent and new known issue fixes .........


I just had to format the last build that was unstable here and clean install this new one because of that and I have a real new SSD also so it ain't that ☺

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Very true LOL, but "when" is going to be in a few weeks --- when it comes to extension support going live. Anniversary Update is coming August 2nd.

Clean Install WU Windows 10 new build ESD install files download the right way with known good drivers . (NOT the EZ peasy way via WU that can often be unstable or just brick your PC anyway .)

Windows 10 cognoscenti always do this and I usually do also without an ISO download or retail box or OEM media or MCT (or with an an ESD download leak or whatever. ☺)

The new OS build installer ESD file is downloaded in the WU download in the $Windows.~BT > sources folder created on the c:\ drive for those .

ESD decryption tool links and how to ,the bottom link always has the current decryption tool download zip file decryption tool D/L link. Outdated tools may not work :

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...sing-esd/d2768b51-221a-436e-af4e-d3b9118a8864
Download ESD Decrypter 4.7 (esd-decrypter-wimlib-4.7z)

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2570-esd-iso-create-bootable-iso-windows-10-esd-file.html

I have 4 normally activated Windows 10 10586.th2 stable builds on 4 not old PC's and this 14388.rs1 current fast ring test build on an nearly new SSD . (5) W10 OS all total .
 
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^^^^^^^ Of course one will loose all thier files,folders,data ,installed applications & web browsers ,downloaded Widows store run time apps you own and settings on a proper clean install but anyone doing a custom ( clean install ) should already know all that anyway .
 
^^^^^^^ Of course one will loose all thier files,folders,data ,installed applications & web browsers ,downloaded Widows store run time apps you own and settings on a proper clean install but anyone doing a custom ( clean install ) should already know all that anyway .

also on test ring, but Not clean installs, too much trouble with my barely-a-computer family-touchscreen experiment. I have experienced rather Scary failures after Win Update does its thing, from won't install to breaking hardware (BT,wifi) and after much cussing and nearly fresh install the damned thing mysteriously Fixes itself, and BT and/or wifi are functioning again, through no notable Talent on my part. Dunno if that will help ring-paranoee, like myself, or not.

Given your thorough discussion (heheh) of browsers, your one-liner regarding the Netflix app is disappointing - I used it early on when Firefox-IE 11-Edge all had -Issues- over and over, the App sucked like they did.
In the last six months, it has become my goto for Netflix content that gets played A LOT on the family-touch, and we've experienced No issues at all (other than the damned memory low popup, yawn). I'd be interested in learning if you just abandoned the thing -like I did- at Win10 release and never went back, or if you have continued to try it and found it lacking (1080p for instance).
I -Hate- that the position controls are so lame (the overall App needs a good 'finish' re-design, but hey it's Win10, finish is definitely lo-pri at present), but as a sit and watch, pause for phone call, touch experience, it is stable and instantly shows good resolution, as opposed to silverlight.
 
I'd love to know why exactly Youtube has been offering 4k+ resolutions for years now and both Chrome and Firefox handle it fine yet Netflix allegedly doesn't work at 1080p.

I have a 4k display and watch 4k videos on youtube pretty often without any problems.

Its a DRM thing for 1080p content from the studios ( MPAA digital rights management ) with Chrome and Firefox not in compliance.

It's up to the web browsers to become MPAA and HDCP compliant with all that before Netflix can send out MPAA content at the 1080p /2160p encodes via Firefox or Chrome .

64 bit IE 11 on windows 8.1 and windows 10 only will play Neflix 1080p and maybe 2160p also .NO 1080p Netflix in Windows 7 .

You tube video is a Google proprietary VP9 HTML 5 codec maybe not MPAA DRM compliant (not sure ) Anyway aside from that it is more compressed and less efficient than than Netflix HEVC and HTML 5 1080p/2160p
Firefox now supports playing DRM content now, it is in the settings of Firefox, depending of how you have had Firefox setup in the past, you may have to activate the DRM control in Firefox.
 
^^^^^^^ Of course one will loose all thier files,folders,data ,installed applications & web browsers ,downloaded Widows store run time apps you own and settings on a proper clean install but anyone doing a custom ( clean install ) should already know all that anyway .
Bluto, I'd consider it a personal favor, (and the way it's supposed to be done), if you'd compress all that obsessive compulsive ranting of yours into just one or two posts. That way, I could ignore it all at once. :D Thanx in advance.

BTW, in case this serial posting bonanza of yours is a result of you posting on the front page, where editing isn't available, please click the "jump to forum mode" button above the posting text box. Which will bring you to the forums, where editing is possible.
 
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I typically watch Netflix from one of my TV's or on my iPhone (at work). I never watch on my computer where Edge is located.
 
I typically watch Netflix from one of my TV's or on my iPhone (at work). I never watch on my computer where Edge is located.
movies outside of on mobiles and no TV nearby are meant to be watched on large 50" and up premium 2160p HDR TV's or a decent large 1080p SDR set unless tyou are playing them from a decent PC into one of those TV's at 1080p at least but no 4K SDR or HDR on PC ( MPAA /HDCP 2.0/2.0 non compliance outside of Edge HDCP 2.0 .and IE 11 x64 win 8.1 or better .
I use my 2015 Sony HDR apps to watch up to 4K HDR-10 content or an extender on the other sets
 
Once you get the Windows 10 Run time playing a movie it can play 1080p Netflix fine with adequate throughput reliability on broadband but there are better alternatives in PC's running Edge or IE 11 x64 on win 8.1 or (for better UI ) and same on smart TV's and on extenders but the Netflix picture is fine on the NF Windows run time app. I meaured the throughput to 1080p Netflix encodes and I made comparisons with the usual alternatives into a 2015 4K HDR Sony TV so it may be the thing for touch screen appliance assy. line PC's ,

FWIW the Windows Store movie run time app plays rental movies very well also the problem isn't the codecs but only the UI's and occasional stability issues common to any run time app but the UI's are usable and the picture quality is fine .

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Though I primarily use chrome, what I don't like is that hey have decided what is secure for me. Yes the likes of flash and silverlight suck donkey balls and should have been removed from the net eons ago but the truth is they are still heavily used and by chrome blocking them I have some major sites that I can't use in chrome because of it (and ill will be a while before larger websites change to something like html5). The next big headache is at the end of the year when Oracle start phasing out the Java "The plugin will be deprecated as of Java Development Kit 9, and ultimately removed from both the JDK and the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) in a future Java SE release"
 
Though I primarily use chrome, what I don't like is that hey have decided what is secure for me. Yes the likes of flash and silverlight suck donkey balls and should have been removed from the net eons ago but the truth is they are still heavily used and by chrome blocking them I have some major sites that I can't use in chrome because of it (and ill will be a while before larger websites change to something like html5). The next big headache is at the end of the year when Oracle start phasing out the Java "The plugin will be deprecated as of Java Development Kit 9, and ultimately removed from both the JDK and the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) in a future Java SE release"
right there are some videos that will not load at all or play well if they do after a prolonged wait in chrome and web pages that don't display or behave well in Chrome that MS Edge plays well but that's all Edge is good for and what I use it for.

OTOH Firefox is decent also but I never watch video much on it ,it may play videos Chrome will not but it uses the dreadful NPAPI Flash plugin rather than more secure Google pepper-flash nothing works 100% across the board outside of DBS TV that works if it gets a signal above the error threshold and pixelation my choice is ATT/DIRECTV ( D*TV) thier HD picture makes Dish TV look like *** that's why I jumped ship ☺
 
Slightly OT reply to my own preview ring experience above - it has now been 3+ hours of Win10 trying to update to the latest preview, thought to be the Aug 2 finalist. Many points made with der family as fam-puter has been off-line all evening (currently 42% of whatever stage it is in, we've lost count) 'Scheduling' to a time (16-ish hours of non-use daily) in the past has resulted in it not being able to update itself at All, so 'update whenyawanna' has been our method, mumble-soft Prefers 6-7pm, go figger..

If this is any indication, Aug 2nd will be Rife with stories, lol

Personally, this marks the end of Insider preview for us, I'll take Bluto's advice and nekkid install win10 2 Aug edition (as there is no easy way back Out of the Preview that I have been able to find, my limited study has produced 're-install' as the only method Out).

UPDATE: after the third "Attempting to recover update" restart (" three times that -I- saw, says my son), Win 10 did indeed Give Up and "Restore Previous Version of Windows". 30 minutes after that, all is as it was, 25% of shares variably available and BT functional. hooray.
Does -anyone- know what the new Microsoft vikak (or summat) lan device is? our wifi speed is down 90% since that 'improvement' and it cannot be disabled or uninstalled (it enables-reinstalls itself, I am up to version 7 is how I know).
just hadda' ask, howling at the moon, I know..
 
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Slightly OT reply to my own preview ring experience above - it has now been 3+ hours of Win10 trying to update to the latest preview, thought to be the Aug 2 finalist. Many points made with der family as fam-puter has been off-line all evening (currently 42% of whatever stage it is in, we've lost count) 'Scheduling' to a time (16-ish hours of non-use daily) in the past has resulted in it not being able to update itself at All, so 'update whenyawanna' has been our method, mumble-soft Prefers 6-7pm, go figger..

If this is any indication, Aug 2nd will be Rife with stories, lol

Personally, this marks the end of Insider preview for us, I'll take Bluto's advice and nekkid install win10 2 Aug edition (as there is no easy way back Out of the Preview that I have been able to find, my limited study has produced 're-install' as the only method Out).

UPDATE: after the third "Attempting to recover update" restart (" three times that -I- saw, says my son), Win 10 did indeed Give Up and "Restore Previous Version of Windows". 30 minutes after that, all is as it was, 25% of shares variably available and BT functional. hooray.
Does -anyone- know what the new Microsoft vikak (or summat) lan device is? our wifi speed is down 90% since that 'improvement' and it cannot be disabled or uninstalled (it enables-reinstalls itself, I am up to version 7 is how I know).
just hadda' ask, howling at the moon, I know..

Just use the 10586.th2 stable MCT OR ISO from a USB or DVD boot media and clean install if Windows will not load to have a normally activated 10586.th2 stable biuld with a product key or digital entitlement that will get the final release stable red-stone one build Anniversary upgrade soon anyway as a matter of course.

OTOH if you have a working stable Windows 10 biuld and digital entitlement or product key it will get upgraded soon anyway and you can always do a proper clean install after that if needed .

If you are not on stable windows 10 and want it you need to get busy with an ISO or MCT anyway before 29 July if you don't already have a 10586.th2 ESD in your hidden $Windows .~BT folder anyway ,otherwise it's going to be $ 129.00 or more if you don't have a windows 10 licence or stay in the Insider program for the Red stone two builds.

In any event after 7/29 no more free stable upgrades from 7.sp1 or 8.1 .

IMO you shouldn't be using these unstable Windows 10 beta test builds outside of a decent test mule and secondary HDD or NTFS or GPT volume boot drive and the requisite skills and back ups and not on something like you have there anyway .

This test mule has a separate SSD for windows Insider builds (plenty of resources and broadband ) and a stable 10586.th2 build normally activated on one of the other the other spindle drives of two in here aside from the SSD .

I always install my known good HDWE drivers from a named folder anyway .

The 14390.rs1 fast ring current test build is not a final release candidate at all just a late beta and not considered stable .(and it isn't.)

We been getting new fast ring builds about every three days now close to the Anniversary update and unless you have a good test mule and know how to beat it you don't want any of that anyway .

I can't help you on the LAN thing but if you aren't on a Local Area Network or configured as same maybe don't worry about it but check your configuration to home group or work group and WI FI and set your LAN discovery /sharing settings as applicable and turn (OFF.) get updates from other PC's in you're how updates are delivered settings update > advanced settings that may be your Wi FI problem .
Settings > update and security > advanced options > chose how updates are delivered > turn the toggle
there ( OFF)

Note : I would install and use known good drivers for your WI FI HDWE at the PC that may be the problem if you are not getting reliable throughput aside from channel overlap or local interference from household devices on 2.5Ghz not so much about interference on 5.0 Ghz thats well above all that.
You can also try Wi FI channel 1,6 or 11 if you are on 2.5 Ghz WI FI those have the least overlap potential and don't worry about CO Channels so much if you have a WI FI Scanner they usually don't harm anything .

Maybe set the WI FI router/gateway at max power also you can log into your WI FI router from a web browser and do all that . A good WI FI scanner like SSIDInsider from Meta Geeks (free) if they still have it can show you what you need to know about your Wi FI from the router to the PC and what all your neighbors have and what they are doing ☺

you can download the Official Windows 10 MCT or a stable 10586.th1 ISO from Microsoft. I would only use a stable build outside of a decent test mule. You will need a broadband connection and a working windows PC for any of this .

You can run the MCT installer on that PC if thats where you want the new operating system or make install media for another PC with the MCT .

to back out of an upgrade loop and install an OS just change the boot order in your GPT boot menu screen or Bios splash screen and boot from install media if you want an easy peasy in place upgrade/or re install or or a clean install from whatever installer media or MCT you have .

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Personally, this marks the end of Insider preview for us, I'll take Bluto's advice and nekkid install win10 2 Aug edition (as there is no easy way back Out of the Preview that I have been able to find, my limited study has produced 're-install' as the only method Out).
forgot to mention about the current Insider builds not being exactly the upcoming Stable Anniversary update
IIRC last year maybe we got 10240. RTM about a week or two before the public (not even sure they told us what it was at the time but IIRC it was remarkably more stable than what we had before that but could have been more stable ) it was further optimized with updates before it went public and for a short while both channels ran the same 10240 .th1 build revisions until we moved on to the 10586.th2 betas which have become 10586.th2 stable that only got decently stable IMO with the second cumulative update much later while we moved on to the red-stone one builds and will likewise move on to the red-stone 2 builds at some point if they don't push out advanced revisions of whatever the stable .rs1 builds is that may end up as cumulative stable channel updates until then like last year .
 
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