Build a PC Need a budget gaming pc

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LinkedKube

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If he spends 450 with dell he's getting a crap machine for gaming either way, definately not a good suggestion.

He should not be concerned with i7 builds, they are overkill for games.
 

idunno

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super smash, that is quite a rude statement, the guy is asking what an optical drive is, and your gonna
knock a pre-assembled pc that is intel based with a dual core proccessor (2.8ghz) with the not to old standard 800mhz ram. (upgradeble to 1066 ddr3) do you know the chipset dell is using on the vostro 420's? it boast the same single pci-e 2.0 slot as some of these AMD boards posted. and god knows if this guy wants to glue the heatsink to the processor. my 'ol hotrod has a x1600pro ati AGP 8x card 3.06 ghz pent 4 533 FSB and still rocks at any games i throw at it, including assassins creed. i would however build my own pc, and not request anything other than ram timimgs and mobo compatibility from any forum. but don't knock simplicity when you cannot offer anything but insults. then again throw some more out there what do i care.
 

snowchick7669

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then again throw some more out there what do i care
Given your post, clearly you do :)

I don't think supersmashbrada was directly insulting you, he just gave reason to correct your statement. I do agree with him on this one also. You will pay a lot more to get Dell to build you something and slap their logo on it, then you would if you just built it yourself. This member is trying to save money. As for them not being knowledgeable enough, that's not really our concern as they may have a friend/local technician build it for them if they are overwhelmed.
 

TechGaming

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Well this topic ended up weird. Haha well building the pc seems easy enough. I really don't want a pre-built one as they seem to have bad specs. But what i am asking though is to make a build with 450 so i can have enough money to afford a decent monitor.
 

snowchick7669

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Well you have two suggestions from Red and Rage. I'm not one to offer prices on hardware as all our prices are at least double what you can get in America :)

I could only dream of building a machine for $450, thats the price of a decent motherboard here
 

TechGaming

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Yea reds suggestion is pretty much final. But i am willing to see if any of you can make it any cheaper ;).
 

red1776

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I agree with Snowchick here, $450 for a gaming machine is a tall order, knock anything else off and your getting into components that you don't want to mess with (see rage's comment about Elite Group and the badger) ;):haha:
you could go with the amd 7750be or the 7850 like i suggested in my original post, but beyond that, i feel like i would be steering you into an risky build.
 

idunno

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hell i'd say go on craigslist or ebay, even tho you can't guarantee the life time, i would stay away from
any AMD except maybe the phenom black. still i'd go with intel. but your looking for cheap, and this
thread shouldn't divert into intel vs amd on gaming should it? i haven't checked tom's hardware in a while.
or that nvidia's higher tier has the upperhand vs ATI >.<
 

red1776

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hell i'd say go on craigslist or ebay, even tho you can't guarantee the life time, i would stay away from
any AMD except maybe the phenom black. still i'd go with intel. but your looking for cheap, and this
thread shouldn't divert into intel vs amd on gaming should it? i haven't checked tom's hardware in a while.
or that nvidia's higher tier has the upperhand vs ATI >.<
and that ladies and gentleman, is ignorance at its most obvious.
 

idunno

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and that ladies and gentleman, is ignorance at its most obvious.
yeah but how much of what i said holds truth? are you being an *** and cannot state that AMD holds weight over Intel? or that Nvidia's top gear beats ATI?
or are you poking stupid statements at the fact that i clearly admit i haven't done any research. what a fool you are.
 

red1776

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ummmm...none of it,
first of all if amd is to be stayed away from, then you should also stay away from the black edition...right? secondly phenom's were the ones to stay away from, if you haven't noticed....and weren't such a fanboy, amd has a very competitive and quality product that competes with intel, particularly in gaming in the phenomII. thirdly, maybe you should check with Tom's hardware and read up. fourthly, Tech does not have an unlimited budget and is asking for (obviously) the maximum performance per dollar, and that's exactly what he got in the suggestions he received....other than yours

holds wieght??? what the hell are you talikng about? yes i7 is the king of processors , but so what? most of us live in a value market and just because i7 is the top in no way shape or form has anything to do with the fact that amd has great value processors out there that offer the better value.
 

snowchick7669

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idunno,

You have made a remarkable introduction for yourself with only 10 posts.

AMD are definitely a better option for gamers on a budget, esp the newer ones as they were designed for lower spec/price motherboards.

I'd recommend doing a bit of research before sharing your suggestions, as this forum was designed to help people. Not have 'matter of opinion, based on my experience' wars
 

AndrestheBean

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yeah but how much of what i said holds truth? are you being an *** and cannot state that AMD holds weight over Intel? or that Nvidia's top gear beats ATI?
or are you poking stupid statements at the fact that i clearly admit i haven't done any research. what a fool you are.
wow, lol.

NOOB!!!
 

red1776

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idunno,

You have made a remarkable introduction for yourself with only 10 posts.

AMD are definitely a better option for gamers on a budget, esp the newer ones as they were designed for lower spec/price motherboards.

I'd recommend doing a bit of research before sharing your suggestions, as this board was designed to help people. Not have 'matter of opinion, based on my experience' wars
could not have said it better myself....and i'll get you for that Snow! :)
 

idunno

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im not a intel fanboy i still have an old rig with an asus mobo with a k2 proc
im just saying back in the day intel dominated, and they shut up amd with the core i7
this was the barebones that i was gonna build a new pc with
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3747050&CatId=333

its not great but i was looking for upgradibility in the future, now DDR3 if you ask me
is crap due to the timings but the dual pci-e 2.0 slots on the dx38 mobo was a relief.
but to be honest the quad core was a bit too much for games. and thanks snowchick,
i take that as a compliment wait till (unless i get banned) i post my computers issues im
running now. it'll be a quite a nightmare. (if anyone cares to help)
but i shouldn't be posting here cause im to lazy to post a rig up for the guy. just kinda flaming
everyone who disses the dell's they havent even checked out.

EDIT: lol 486 running quake as good as the pentium cause the code was writen for it and bypased the 586's fpu.
also i guess i mean K6 dunno where i got K2 from, it's been a while and i suffer form "sometimers" and btw that amd chip still runs today
 

snowchick7669

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and thanks snowchick,
i take that as a compliment
What did you take as a compliment? Sorry, its Friday afternoon here.

(if anyone cares to help)
idunno, we help EVERYONE. Not just nice people, we do appreciate a bit of respect however. And if you continue to show us respect, then we will return it.

Its a bit of what goes around comes around.
just kinda flaming
everyone who disses the dell's they havent even checked out
We weren't 'dissing' them, we were just stating that in this circumstance it wouldn't be the best option for the member. Custom made PC's get you better value for your money, as long as you know how to build them. If you don't, then a Branded PC may be better for you. Plus they come with the help, support and warranty for those that aren't knowledgeable. But since the member stated they wanted a good machine for a budget, then a custom PC was suggested
 

red1776

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What did you take as a compliment? Sorry, its Friday afternoon here.



idunno, we help EVERYONE. Not just nice people, we do appreciate a bit of respect however. And if you continue to show us respect, then we will return it.

Its a bit of what goes around comes around.


We weren't 'dissing' them, we were just stating that in this circumstance it wouldn't be the best option for the member. Custom made PC's get you better value for your money, as long as you know how to build them. If you don't, then a Branded PC may be better for you. Plus they come with the help, support and warranty for those that aren't knowledgeable. But since the member stated they wanted a good machine for a budget, then a custom PC was suggested
I doff my derby to you.....you are precise ma'am ;)
 

AndrestheBean

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just kinda flaming
everyone who disses the dell's they havent even checked out.
there not complete crap, its just better to build your own,

i only have a hp because my parents got it for me for school,

then i upgraded it to play games, and it runs like a BOSS

but i will be building my own rig later when newer hardware comes out around september, october, december time,
 

LinkedKube

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yeah but how much of what i said holds truth? are you being an *** and cannot state that AMD holds weight over Intel? or that Nvidia's top gear beats ATI?
or are you poking stupid statements at the fact that i clearly admit i haven't done any research. what a fool you are.

umm yeah, amd does hold weight over intel, WHEN YOU'RE ON A BUDGET. As a owner of a high end, mid and low end pc, all sitting here on this desk I'll tell you that 450 usd can get you a build to play most games at a decent resolution. This thread was never about intel vs. amd and which one is better, because only amd applies in his case where he's trying to save money.

I didnt suggest anything to help him because my suggestions require some overclocking on a low end 79usd intel cpu(intel e5200, to start off the build. Being as though its clear he doesnt know much about parts, as far as getting best bang for the buck. I can also assume he doesnt know much about overclocking.
 

idunno

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looks to me that you have ddr2 ram while your mobo only supports ddr3
before i get flamed i am doubting it is backwards compatible unlike the olden times.. so us that as firewood
also don't look to ever having SLI or crossfire in that mobo, you get what you wanted when you say budget, sure it will do the job tho.
it seems foreign to me too about the amd chips, make sure somone checks off your cpu on that mobo.
 
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