Nvidia 9600 GT

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

Hi,

I have decided to buy myself a new computer on a somehow low budget , and would like to ask you guys what do you think of the Nvidea 9600 GT 1 GB edition, would it run all modern games ? . Thanx

 

[BlindObject]

It should run most current games at 1080 at playable conditions. I use to have a 512mb version and it could handle l4d2 at 1080 with most settings on high with 1080 and frames were always above 50.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

Thanx for the reply just another question : It is better than the ATI HD4650 isn t it ?

 

[Renegeek]

I have 2 9600 gt 512, SLI, and i'm able to run crysis at 19x10 high res, and i get 30-40 fps...

im not sure about ATI products... sorry

 

[werty316]

Thanx for the reply just another question : It is better than the ATI HD4650 isn t it ?

The 9600GT is faster.

 

[GameJunkie72792]

In Win 7 x64 I run no less than 30 frames on any game with my 9600 GSO 768mb

I play COD4 maxed full AA, COD5 Maxed full AA, GTA IV Maxed full AA, i could go on listing games. all at 1600x1200, thanks to my damn CRT...

I particular like shift and grid maxed. I could never touch any of these games at high before 7 though. it was a miracle.

But anyway, i like the 9600's The only thing I dont like about my XFX one is the stock hsf keeping it in the 40's idle.

My system is getting a little dated though, I built it last Christmas and it needs a GTX series, and a new PSU.

But Im waiting for nVidia DX11 cards...

 

[Ritwik7]

I don't think that the 9600GT can handle games like Crysis all that well. Could you give us your budget? What other components have you decided on?

 

[GameJunkie72792]

Actually the GSO handles crysis at high 1024x768 no aa, good for 35 frames.

okay, you win I dont consider that handling it well.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

I don't think that the 9600GT can handle games like Crysis all that well. Could you give us your budget? What other components have you decided on?

I have decided on the following components :

MSI P 965 NEO 2 FI - FSB1066 Mobo
9600 GT 1GB GPU
core 2 quad q6600
Seagate Barracuda 500GB
(2 x 2GB RAM Kingston Memory)

If you have another suggestions for A good GPU with a price that doesnot differe much from the 9600GT , i am ready to hear your suggestions.

 

[Ritwik7]

Like I said earlier, it would be very helpful if you could specify a budget. Getting hold of a new Intel Q6600 is difficult (and pretty expensive). Better processors are available at lower costs these days. All the components you've picked are very much dated. It's not a good system to build now (maybe a year and a half back).

 

[jasonbernal]

Yes

thank you for this!

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

Like I said earlier, it would be very helpful if you could specify a budget. Getting hold of a new Intel Q6600 is difficult (and pretty expensive). Better processors are available at lower costs these days. All the components you've picked are very much dated. It's not a good system to build now (maybe a year and a half back).

Well my Budget is about 250 EUR which is approximatly 480 USD . I wouldn t mind buying a Core 2 Duo if its gaming performance is good for all new games. I would like to have your suggestions knowing that i have already bought the mobo (It s cheap).

 

[Ritwik7]

You've already bought the motherboard? It does not support any of the newer processors. The best Core 2 Duo that is supported by that board is the E6700 which is impossible to find these days. Even if you do get one, it'll be really expensive.

The Core 2 Quad Q6600 is not supported on that motherboard.

I think you should have waited. Not a good choice.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

You've already bought the motherboard? It does not support any of the newer processors. The best Core 2 Duo that is supported by that board is the E6700 which is impossible to find these days. Even if you do get one, it'll be really expensive.

The Core 2 Quad Q6600 is not supported on that motherboard.

I think you should have waited. Not a good choice.

I have sufficient computer knowledge to test a Mobo or at least read the specifications before buying.

The Q6600 is surely supported on that mobo , The MSI P965 NEO 1 doesnot support maybe but this is "neo 2", i have already tested it in the shop.

here are the specifications :

Specifications



CPU

• Supports Socket 775 for Intel® Pentium 4 3xx, 5xx, 6xx, 8xx, 9xx, Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo processors.
• Supports FSB 1066/800/533 MHz
• Supports EIST technology
• Supports Intel® Hyper-Threading technology.
• Supports Intel® Quad Core / Dual Core Technology up to 1066 MHz.
Please refer to CPU Support for compatible CPU; the above description is for reference only.


Chipset

• Intel® P965 Chipset
- Supports FSB 533/800/1066MHz.
- Supports PCI Express x 16 graphics interface.
- Supports dual channel, DDR2 533/667/800

• Intel® ICH8 Chipset
- Hi-Speed USB (USB2.0) controller, 480Mb/sec, up to 10 ports.
- 4 SATAII ports with transfer rate up to 300MB/s.
- PCI Master v2.3, I/O APIC.
- ACPI 2.0 compliant.


Main Memory

• Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 1.8 Volt DDR2 SDRAM
• Supports dual channel DDR2 memory architecture.
• Supports DDR2 533/667/800 memory interface. (8GB Max)




Slots

• One PCI Express x16 slot. (supports PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)
• One PCI Express x4 slot. (supports PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)
• One PCI Express x1 slot. (supports PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)

• Supports ATI CrossFire technology
• Two PCI 2.3 32-bit PCI bus slots (support 3.3V/5V PCI bus interface).


On-Board IDE/SATA

• One Ultra DMA 66/100/133 IDE controller integrated in Marvell ® 88SE6111.
- Supports PIO, Bus Master operation modes.
- Supports Ultra DMA 66/100/133 mode..

• SATAII controller integrated in ICH8/Marvell ® 88SE6111
- Up to 300MB/sec transfer speed.
- 4 SATAII ports by ICH8.
- 1 SATAII port by Marvell ® 88SE6111.



Audio

• High Definition link controller integrated in Intel® ICH8 chip.
• Audio codec Realtek® 888.
- Compliant with Azalia 1.0 spec.
- Flexible 8-channel audio with jack sensing.
- Meet Microsoft Vista Premium spec.


LAN

• Realtek® RTL8110SC
- Supports 10/100/1000 Mb/s.
- Compliane with PCI 2.2.
- Supports ACPI Power Management.



IEEE1394

• VIA® VT 6308 chipset
- Transfer rate is up to 400Mbps


Internal I/O Connectors

- ATX 24-Pin power connector
- 4-pin ATX 12V power connector
- CPU / System / Power connectors
- CD-in connector
- Clear CMOS jumper
- Chassis intrusion switch connector
- IrDA infrared module header
- Serial port connector
- Front panel audio connector
- Front panel connector
- 3 x USB 2.0 connector support additional 6 ports
- 1 x Floppy disk drive connector
- 5 x Serial ATAII connectors
- 1 x ATA133 connector
- 1 x IEEE1394 connector


BIOS

• The mainboard BIOS provides "Plug & Play" BIOS which detects the peripheral devices and
expansion cards of the board automatically.
• The mainboard provides a Desktop Management Interface(DMI) function which records your
mainboard specifications.


Dimension

• 30.5cm(L) x 22.5cm(W) ATX Form Factor

Mounting

• 6 mounting holes.
Socket 775
CPU (Max Support) Core 2 Quad
FSB / Hyper Transport Bus 533/800/1066/1333
Chipset Intel® P965
DDR2 Memory DDR2 533/667/800
DDR3 Memory N/A
DIMM Slots 4
Max Memory (GB) 8
PCI-Ex16 1
PCI-Ex8 N/A
PCI-Ex4 1
PCI-Ex1 1
PCI 2
IDE 1
SATA 5
RAID N/A
LAN 10/100/1000*1
TPM N/A
USB ports (Rear) 4
Audio ports (Rear) 6
Parallel ports (Rear) 1
Serial ports (Rear) 1
eSATA N/A
1394 ports (Rear) 1 (Optional)
VGA N/A
DVI N/A
HDMI N/A
Form Factor ATX
AM3 Support N/A
DrMOS N/A
Sideport Memory N/A
SLI N/A
3-way SLI N/A
Hybrid SLI N/A
CrossFire N/A
Hybrid CrossFire N/A
Prozessor
Core Name
CPU Code
CPU No
FSB
CPU Speed
L2 Cache
Stepping
Watt
Celeron Conroe-L SL9XL 440 200 2.00 512K A1 35
Celeron Conroe-L SL9XN 430 200 1.80 512K A1 35
Celeron Conroe-L SL9XP 420 200 1.60 512K A1 35
Celeron D Prescott SL98U 326 133 2.53 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL9BT 355 133 3.33 256K G1 73
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL9KJ 365 133 3.60 512K D0 65
Celeron D Prescott SL9BS 351 133 3.20 256K G1 73
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL9KL 356 133 3.33 512K D0 65
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL9KM 352 133 3.20 512K D0 65
Celeron D Prescott SL98V 331 133 2.66 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL98W 336 133 2.80 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL9BR 346 133 3.06 256K G1 84
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL9KN 347 133 3.06 512K D0 65
Celeron D Prescott SL98X 341 133 2.93 256K G1 84
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL96N 356 133 3.33 512K C1 86
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL9KK 360 133 3.46 512K D0 65
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL9XU 347 133 3.06 512K C1 69.2
Celeron D Cedar Mill SL96P 352 133 3.20 512K C1 86
Celeron D Prescott SL7TU 326 133 2.53 256K E0 84
Celeron D Prescott SL7TW 336 133 2.80 256K E0 84
Celeron D Prescott SL7TX 341 133 2.93 256K E0 84
Celeron D Prescott SL8H5 326 133 2.53 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL8H7 331 133 2.66 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL8H9 336 133 2.80 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL8HB 341 133 2.93 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL8HD 346 133 3.06 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL8HF 351 133 3.20 256K G1 84
Celeron D Prescott SL7TZ 351 133 3.20 256K E0 84
Celeron D Prescott SL8HS 355 133 3.33 256K G1 73
Celeron D Prescott SL7TV 331 133 2.66 256K E0 84
Celeron Dual-Core Conroe SLAR2 E1400 200 2.00 512K M0 65
Celeron Dual-Core Conroe SLAQW E1200 200 1.60 512K M0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9T9 E6400 266 2.13 2M L2 65
Core 2 Duo Wolfdale SLAPC E7200 266 2.53 3M M0 65
Core 2 Duo Wolfdale SLAPB E7300 266 2.66 3M M0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9S9 E6400 266 2.13 2M B2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9S8 E6600 266 2.40 4M B2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9S7 E6700 266 2.66 4M B2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9TA E6300 266 1.86 2M L2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9ZF E6700 266 2.66 4M B2 65
Core 2 Duo Wolfdale SLAQR E8190 333 2.66 6M C0 65
Core 2 Duo Wolfdale SLAPK E8500 333 3.16 6M C0 65
Core 2 Duo Wolfdale SLAPN E8300 333 2.83 6M C0 65
Core 2 Duo Wolfdale SLAPP E8200 333 2.66 6M C0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA98 E4400 200 2.00 2M M0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLAA5 E6540 333 2.33 4M G0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA9X E6550 333 2.33 4M G0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA94 E4600 200 2.40 2M M0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA9V E6750 333 2.66 4M G0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA9U E6850 333 3.00 4M G0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA95 E4500 200 2.20 2M M0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLALT E4700 200 2.60 2M G0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9SA E6300 266 1.86 2M B2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9TB E4300 200 1.80 2M L2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SL9ZL E6600 266 2.40 4M B2 65
Core 2 Duo Wolfdale SLAPL E8400 333 3.00 6M C0 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA4U E6320 266 1.86 4M B2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA3F E4400 200 2.00 2M L2 65
Core 2 Duo Conroe SLA4T E6420 266 2.13 4M B2 65
Core 2 Extreme Kentsfield SLACP QX6800 266 2.93 8M G0 130
Core 2 Extreme Kentsfield SL9UK QX6800 266 2.93 8M B3 130
Core 2 Extreme Conroe SL9S5 X6800 266 2.93 4M B2 75
Core 2 Extreme Kentsfield SL9UL QX6700 266 2.66 8M B3 130
Core 2 Extreme Kentsfield SLAFN QX6850 333 3.00 8M G0 130
Core 2 Extreme Yorkfield SLAWN QX9650 333 3.00 12M C1 130
Core 2 Extreme Yorkfield SLAN3 QX9650 333 3.00 12M C0 130
Core 2 Quad Kentsfield SLACQ Q6700 266 2.66 8M G0 95

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

I have found this page also that shows that it is compatible with the new quads
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/P965_Neo2_(MS-7235v2.1).html

 

[Ritwik7]

I missed that "2".Sorry, my bad. Then it's great,but how much is the Q6600 going to cost you?

As for a video card take a look at the XFX Radeon HD 4770.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

I missed that "2".Sorry, my bad. Then it's great,but how much is the Q6600 going to cost you?

As for a video card take a look at the XFX Radeon HD 4770.

I can get the Q6600 for 80 EUROS (Used from ebay). As i said i wouldn t mind buying a core 2 duo when it doesn t differe much from the Quad. Concerning the Graphics Is this HD4770 better than the 9600 GT in gaming performance? I also like to have a card with an HDMI port , as i have a big flatscreen TV. So i wouldn t mind doing some playing on it .

 

[Ritwik7]

The HD4770 is much better in gaming performance than the 9600GT.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

The HD4770 is much better in gaming performance than the 9600GT.

And what do you suggest concerning the other parts what should i buy for a processor

 

[klepto12]

i agree the 4770 is alot better card the 9600 gt is trash for newer games. i wouldnt get anything less than a 4770 or 4850 imo going less than that and your asking for slow frame rates. your mb will only support 1066 fsb cpus so that limits you to some older cpu's on the market. i would guess that the best cpu would be the q6600 for you but it will be expensive.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

i agree the 4770 is alot better card the 9600 gt is trash for newer games. i wouldnt get anything less than a 4770 or 4850 imo going less than that and your asking for slow frame rates. your mb will only support 1066 fsb cpus so that limits you to some older cpu's on the market. i would guess that the best cpu would be the q6600 for you but it will be expensive.

Well the Q6600 would be perfekt for me as i can get it relatively cheap from ebay. Thanks for the Advice. In addition to that how would the 9600 GT be that bad anyway ? . I would like you guys to make me know , about the difference between the 2 Cards (hd4770 and the Nvidea 9600 GT) . Because when i read the characteristics of the 2 i didn t see a very big difference. Does the 9600 Being an "Oldtimer" makes it provide low Performance on gaming scales?

 

[klepto12]

the 4770 is newer and around 15 to 25% faster than the 9600gt it even matches the 9800 gt and gtx in some benchmarks.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

Ok thank you guys , i have made my choice :

Quad Q6600 Processor
ATI HD4770 1 GB
4gb Kingston 533 (2x2GB)
Samsung HArddrive 500 GB
MSI P965 Neo 2 Mobo
650 W Power Supply (3xPCIe 3xSATA 20/24 Pin SILENT)
And thats it , what do you think ?

 

[klepto12]

if i were you i would get some 800 mhz DDR2 ram and drop the 533 ones also i hope thats a reliable brand power supply.

 

[D3CRYPTM4ST3R]

Would the 800 Mhz rams work on my Mobo?