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Ryzen is bottleneck here, Intel does noticeably better. I know, it's ridiculous...million threads don't give 100000% more performance in games compared to 10 from intel.
From the articleJust sold a Vega 64 and told to myself to never buy again a card that produce that much heat. Card producing such heat are hard to cool and made too much noise. It is sad to see NVIDIA releasing product that have such high tdp.
Nobody said 10GB is not enough, it's 8GB at a lower bandwidth that is seeing a few games surpass.Do people still think that 10GB is not enough ??
Benchmarks proves that you don't need more than that
The conclusion wouldn't change with an Intel CPU though. Steve concludes that the 3090 FE is 10% faster on average compared to an 3080. And TechPowerUp's conclusion to their "MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio Review" is that it is 16% faster than an 3080 on average. But it is also an OC GPU that is 6.6% overclocked out of the box.Amd boys still shocked their favourite performance/watt king is 3 gens behind now
If you can't afford something due to being poor, then just don't buy it and don't insult the company which actually innovates instead of gluing dies together.
Also, stop making benches with 3950x, that cpu is pathetic, slower than 3800x in gaming, often just on par with 3600x due to the glued design and latency penalties and IT IS A MASSIVE BOTTLENECK @1080p and 1440p and depending on a game engine, even in 4K.
You only make those cards look bad.
Yeah for sure I would hope future driver updates help improve things. Though I don't know if that's likely to benefit this card more than it also benefits siblings.Well, I would say that the surprise is how minor the performance uplift is given the spec sheet. I would have expected at least 20%-30%, and given the difference between the 2080 and the 2080 Ti is larger and the price difference is smaller, so yeah, I would say this is a surprise. I would also expect though that this early benchmark is not the final word, Nvidia will get this thing running a little better through driver updates.
From the reviews I've seen, they got similar margins with Intel CPUs. There is no CPU bottleneck, especially at 4K.Ryzen is bottleneck here, Intel does noticeably better. I know, it's ridiculous...million threads don't give 100000% more performance in games compared to 10 from intel.
No, it produces just as much heat as the V64 (actually a little more), but it's cooling solution is so much better at wicking it away from the gpu.From the article
"The "cool" thing about the massive RTX 3090 Founders Edition are the cool operating temperatures. Well, that and the fact that it is virtually silent......."
Did you even read the review ???
There is difference between power consumption and heat. RTX 3090 does not produce a lot of heat (Probably because of the huge heatsink and cooler it have)
Even though RTX3090 consume a lot power it is has good performance per watt (unlike vega64)
Yep, but there are going to be a handful of gamers out there willing to spend 100% more on a gpu so they can get a 10% improvement on their 4k 144hz displays.It'll be criticised for the inflated price but really it's a pro level product. Don't be fooled into thinking everyone should go and buy this card and that's what PC gaming costs. Don't moan about it. It's not for you to run Fortnite on. It's for graphics workstations which on a good day are $10k anyway.
It's all about the compute performance and massive memory buffer here. You don't need this for gaming.
Nice review. The 3090 wouldn't look so bad if there was no 3080. It does offer a large increase in performance over the previous generation. But the 3080 does exist and it destroys the 3090 in value.
Seems like the 3090 has done its job - making the 3080 look better.For those that don't/can't, the 3080 is amazing price to perf option instead.
I see no downsides here (other than the 3080 being hard to obtain right now)
It didn't need to make the 3080 look better. It already sold out instantly, and by pretty much every measure except power draw, it stacks up as a really great buy (the 3080 that is).Seems like the 3090 has done its job - making the 3080 look better.
That‘s actually pretty smart marketing.
Not saying that the 3080 is a bad GPU - although I am curious how the crash issue is developing.It didn't need to make the 3080 look better. It already sold out instantly, and by pretty much every measure except power draw, it stacks up as a really great buy (the 3080 that is).
You're right in principle ofc. But I think in this case the reason it's sold out is because all of the reviews are painting them positively and the demand for people to upgrade is there.Not saying that the 3080 is a bad GPU - although I am curious how the crash issue is developing.
That said, something being sold out is not necessarily an indicator of a great product. Just look at cars made in eastern Europe under socialism. If you just went by the waiting time of ten years, those were awesome vehicles.
Oh, there absolutely is demand and it sounded decent going by the reviews and it is very good price / performance wise compared to its predecessor (which was bad compared to its predecessor).You're right in principle ofc. But I think in this case the reason it's sold out is because all of the reviews are painting them positively and the demand for people to upgrade is there.