PC won't boot, post

By Nitrixtone ยท 39 replies
Jan 8, 2018
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  1. My pc ive built, recently acted up upon playing games, random restarts. Its been going strong for almost 4 years and I cant figure out why all the sudden it just didnt do anything upon another restart... just showed a black screen and only cpu, gpu fans were on, all other sytem fans were off... including the Qcode reader. I tried to turn it on without ram or drives and different ram slots including taking out the little battery and reset the bios... but nothing. I need help of what maybe the cause of this.

    Specs:
    PSU Corsair HX 750i
    I7 4790k
    Evga gtx 1070ti
    Enermax dual fan cooler
    Msi z97 gaming 5 motherboard
    Gskill 8gb ddr3 1333
    Hyper x fury 240gb ssd
    1tb WD drive
     
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  2. holdum323

    holdum323 Banned Posts: 1,725   +453

  3. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    The only problem here is that my gpu is brand new and was working... I even unmouted the gpu and tried to get my pc to post without it but it just reacted the same as if it did or didnt have one... my ram sticks are good as another mb posted with them (not same cpu socket). I did further tests on other known videos and nothing seems to help
     
  4. holdum323

    holdum323 Banned Posts: 1,725   +453

    Hi Friend. That's the best I have for you at this time. Maybe other techs will have a better solution later.IDK. Hang in there. and maybe other members will have a better solution to your issue latter. I'm sure you know what you're doing . IDK Sorry>
     
  5. holdum323

    holdum323 Banned Posts: 1,725   +453

    That is limit to my knowledge, but I gave you my best shot. Just be patient and you will get a better response from TS techs then I'll I'll ever have. I guarantee you that.
    Let us know how things go! Try to post every thing you have tried to solve your problem.;)
     
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  6. holdum323

    holdum323 Banned Posts: 1,725   +453

    That's the best Video that I have ever seen about your issue. Let us know how things go.
     
  7. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Addict Posts: 651   +121

    You might be having problems with your motherboard, call msi technical support (Tier 2 Technicians).
    https://us.msi.com/about/contact-us
    By the way let me ask you somethings, the parts you got, are all of them brand new or some slightly used ?
    Also if you don't mind, carefully take out your cpu, put it in the plastic cart it came with.

    Run it by a computer shop and ask for a cpu test, ask them to verify the mobo as well to find out which one is the culprit.
    If they say the cpu is bad grab whatever test results they have on paper.
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/company-overview/contact-us.html.
    Make sure to have your digital receipts or they won't listen to you.
     
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  8. Cycloid Torus

    Cycloid Torus Stone age computing. Posts: 3,398   +861

    4 year old system; recent random restarts (blue screen? black screen? messages? sounds? automatic restart disabled? freeze? or did it just roll into restart without any of these?); then..." just showed a black screen and only cpu, gpu fans were on, all other system fans were off" - flat, dead, no beeps? (consult manual..you may have to rig a speaker to get beeps - if beeps other than just one short one, look up beep error code)

    Could be GPU, CPU, Motherboard or PSU - easiest to 'test' is GPU - take it out and see if motherboard beeps... next try swapping PSU for another known good, etc The 'no post' video from Linus is quite good at covering this (see post #2 above).
     
  9. Montana

    Montana TS Enthusiast Posts: 35   +15

    Looks to me like the PSU may be failing. It produces enough power to start fans but not the hardware.
     
  10. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    Never had this issue... I have another mother board with chip... and it powers up just fine with all the same accessories.
     
  11. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    I watched the video... but its more complicated than what he provides. Gpu is brand new and works in other mb test, I dont have another mb with same chip socket to test it. The qcodes is off and doesnt turn on, and it just black screen no blue screen (rarely does that blue screen) I need to get a speaker to find out if it will beep at all.
     
  12. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    Ill see later on if I can get a pic so yall can see what im dealing with for better understanding of the issue.
     
  13. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

  14. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

  15. Cycloid Torus

    Cycloid Torus Stone age computing. Posts: 3,398   +861

    Take video card off and see if you can get a Q-code. Try a less powerful GPU, etc. If you can get a q-code, but then adding the new video card kills that then the problem is likely to be the video card or the PSU.
     
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  16. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    The gpu isnt the problem... its brand new and works in another mb and psu works in other mb aswell and I tried another psu I got a hold of and it didnt solve the problem. With or without the gpu the qcode doesnt light up at all ever since it blackscreened.
     
  17. Montana

    Montana TS Enthusiast Posts: 35   +15

  18. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    It doesnt post or boot... only the lights of the mobo, gpu, cpu fans turn on... it does have w10 but still wont respond.
     
  19. Montana

    Montana TS Enthusiast Posts: 35   +15

    Of course...2 steps ahead of myself again. I build computers and I'm trying to figure it out. If you can borrow a friend's computer please download a Linux Live Disk. Puppy Linux is the smallest. Burn it to a DVD or flashdrive. Try booting into Linux. It won't install on your hard drive unless you ask it to. This can rule out any hardware failure. If it doesn't then the problem has to be with Windows.
     
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  20. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    So do I build desktops for my friends but never have I encountered a issue like this before.
     
  21. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    Ive Built and rebuilt several desktops, this is something that is out of my knowledge range.
     
  22. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Addict Posts: 651   +121

    Ok with all that said try to reset the memory bios settings, for msi boards, find the (clr) jumper, move it over to the opposite side.
    Hit the power button so it will discharge any electricity from it, leave it for 15-30 minutes at best.
    Come back to it, plug in your power cord, put the jumper back in the normal position.
    Now flip on the psu on-off switch to ON, have only a usb keyboard and maybe a usb mouse plugged in.
    Hit the power button, if it powers on, let it boot to the bios and see if the mobo throws an error about the settings being too high.

    When I had more core i3 540, I had a similiar problems to yours you see now, the only deal with it though.
    If it keeps doing that where you need to do hard reset, the motherboard is having problems.
    You said you had the mobo for 4 years right, msi may have expired your warrenty but give them a call like I mentioned.
    Tell the technicians what you tried and listen to what they say, if they suggest the mobo is faulty.
    If you don't mind sticking with the lga 1150 socket line for a little while buy a newer used mobo.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013HJLBP8/?tag=httpwwwtechsp-20

    Just a heads up I have a mobo you could use, waiting on one particular person here seems like they forgot.
    PM if you're interested I won't even charge full price for the mobo.
     
  23. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    I jumped the two pins for the cmos battery and still nothing... I checked some of the other boards connections with some accessories and they dont respond at all... Im pretty sure from the beginning the board on works less than half and will stay like that... Im going to see what msi will tell me and see what they might think whats wrong with the board. Ill ask a friend to see if I can use his board... used to be my old pc but same mobo socket.
     
  24. holdum323

    holdum323 Banned Posts: 1,725   +453

    Hi I like @Montana,s idea with the Linux CD.;)
     
  25. Nitrixtone

    Nitrixtone TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 16

    Ill see if it will even respond to the sata connections.
     

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