Radeon RX 5700 vs. GeForce RTX 2060 Super: 40+ Game Mega Benchmark

[amghwk]

I'm having a Sapphire 5700XT Pulse. It's a twin-fan custom design. It's extremely quiet. Even while gaming. And I have no idea what is all the fuss about "instability drivers". I couldn't be more happier with this card. It trounces Nividia's arrogant pricing while delivering sheer performance.

Edit: Though not related to this article, I would say the 5700XT even goes as far as going head-to-head against the 2080, especially considering the price difference. The minimum fps comes very close to it.

 

[Evernessince]

Flashing bios can go wrong but you can easily fix it with an iGPU or a spare GPU and no it doesn't void your warranty, I have been flashing bios since forever. The article mentions about 5700 can be flashed but ignoring the 2060Super can do the same but better.

1. FPS is a subjective number, playing single player games you generally don't care about FPS as much, 2060 Super can do 60fps at 1080p across many RTX games which is playable.

2. Navi driver instability is noted across many Techtuber like Tech Deals, Jokers Production, GamersNexus, etc...

Check the 26:00 minute mark, also 2/3 of the buyer reviews on newegg is littered with driver instability comments with the 5700XT.

You keep mentioning the space invader, check out Der8auer Vid

Basically the failure rate of the Turing were within normal range, or so for the custom models, the FE model probably has higher failing rate. I bought 2 2080Ti (one Gigabyte and one Asus) at launch and haven't yet seen any problem, I even bought them in different country thus forfeiting any warranty.

3. Using 3rd party tool will get you perma ban in online games. You get quite an advantage with Image Sharpening in online games (I use it in PUBG )

4. 1660Ti also have the new Nvenc. This is also useful when you want to record your gameplay, can't do it with Navi (for now).

This is true, most of the time can flash it if you have a spare GPU or iGPU. It is possible for it to completely brick the card with no chance of a reflash though. Voiding your warranty isn't worth a power limit increase IMO.

The article may have mentioned the capability of a 5700 to be flashed but it doesn't include this in testing. I do believe that flashing a 5700 is more notable though as it's a direct performance increase whereas a with a 2060 you are only looking at increasing power limit. Not that I would recommend doing either unless you are willing to buy another.

1. https://www.techspot.com/article/1793-metro-exodus-ray-tracing-benchmark/

At 1080p in Metro Exodus, even the 2080 Ti struggles. Average of 72.5 and 1% lows of 45. These 1% lows indiciate a large variation in frame rate. The 2070 dips below 30 FPS at 1080p 1% lows. That's not good. In fact I would much rather have a lower average but higher 1% lows. Consistency is key when gaming, not having it leads to a very unpleasant gaming experience.

While low FPS might be acceptable to some, the overall PC market has been trending towards high refresh rate monitors for a long time. The experience is objectively better. Time between refreshes is cut in half or more. How many people do you see saying that 60 FPS is superior to 144 Hz or 240 Hz? Maybe a handful. On the flipside, far far more would happily admit 144 Hz or 240 Hz is a big upgrade. It's less subjective and more "60 Hz is good enough for some people but for the majority of people it's a big upgrade". I know that I am never going back to a 60 Hz monitor. Even just browsing the desktop if feels much more responsive.

Here is also a TechSpot revist of BFV RT performance after Nvidia did some tweaking

Revisiting Battlefield V Ray Tracing Performance

After a less than encouraging debut of real-time ray tracing in Battlefield V, Nvidia and DICE have been working together to optimize the game's implementation of DXR....

www.techspot.com

Around 60 FPS on low. Not impressive nor was BFV's RTX implementation very good, requiring a patch just to get decent performance. GamersNexus did a breakdown of it and found significant noise introduced. After all, with the low amount of sample Nvidia is taking, they have to use an AI powered denoiser to clean the RT up.

2. Navi had some launch bugs and indeed have been noted. The severity of which though has not exceeded Nvdia's own transgressions. If you personally feel AMD's drivers are buggy then you also have to agree that Nvidia also has buggy drivers. Joker for example, did a video just last week about a buggy Nvidia driver that was released the day of the video. The only difference between AMD's buggy drivers and Nvidia's is that Nvidia screws up at seemingly random times and very rarely on launch. On the flipside, AMD frequently has buggy drivers at launch and improves on them from there. I really wish AMD would launch a card that doesn't have buggy drivers and I also wish Nvdia also wouldn't put out the occasional driver that causes random issues like fans to stop or bricks windows

3. I don't see why they wouldn't ban you for using Nvidia's sharpening if they were going to ban you for using something like ReShade. They both provide a competitive advantage. If the goal of their rules is to ensure an even playing field, this is the logical conclusion.

4. Yep, that's my bad. I was under the impression that all 16xx cards used the old NVEC. It turns out that only the 1650 uses the old encoder.

 

[krizby]

This is true, most of the time can flash it if you have a spare GPU or iGPU. It is possible for it to completely brick the card with no chance of a reflash though. Voiding your warranty isn't worth a power limit increase IMO.

The article may have mentioned the capability of a 5700 to be flashed but it doesn't include this in testing. I do believe that flashing a 5700 is more notable though as it's a direct performance increase whereas a with a 2060 you are only looking at increasing power limit. Not that I would recommend doing either unless you are willing to buy another.

1. https://www.techspot.com/article/1793-metro-exodus-ray-tracing-benchmark/

At 1080p in Metro Exodus, even the 2080 Ti struggles. Average of 72.5 and 1% lows of 45. These 1% lows indiciate a large variation in frame rate. The 2070 dips below 30 FPS at 1080p 1% lows. That's not good. In fact I would much rather have a lower average but higher 1% lows. Consistency is key when gaming, not having it leads to a very unpleasant gaming experience.

While low FPS might be acceptable to some, the overall PC market has been trending towards high refresh rate monitors for a long time. The experience is objectively better. Time between refreshes is cut in half or more. How many people do you see saying that 60 FPS is superior to 144 Hz or 240 Hz? Maybe a handful. On the flipside, far far more would happily admit 144 Hz or 240 Hz is a big upgrade. It's less subjective and more "60 Hz is good enough for some people but for the majority of people it's a big upgrade". I know that I am never going back to a 60 Hz monitor. Even just browsing the desktop if feels much more responsive.

Here is also a TechSpot revist of BFV RT performance after Nvidia did some tweaking

Revisiting Battlefield V Ray Tracing Performance

After a less than encouraging debut of real-time ray tracing in Battlefield V, Nvidia and DICE have been working together to optimize the game's implementation of DXR....

www.techspot.com

Around 60 FPS on low. Not impressive nor was BFV's RTX implementation very good, requiring a patch just to get decent performance. GamersNexus did a breakdown of it and found significant noise introduced. After all, with the low amount of sample Nvidia is taking, they have to use an AI powered denoiser to clean the RT up.

2. Navi had some launch bugs and indeed have been noted. The severity of which though has not exceeded Nvdia's own transgressions. If you personally feel AMD's drivers are buggy then you also have to agree that Nvidia also has buggy drivers. Joker for example, did a video just last week about a buggy Nvidia driver that was released the day of the video. The only difference between AMD's buggy drivers and Nvidia's is that Nvidia screws up at seemingly random times and very rarely on launch. On the flipside, AMD frequently has buggy drivers at launch and improves on them from there. I really wish AMD would launch a card that doesn't have buggy drivers and I also wish Nvdia also wouldn't put out the occasional driver that causes random issues like fans to stop or bricks windows

3. I don't see why they wouldn't ban you for using Nvidia's sharpening if they were going to ban you for using something like ReShade. They both provide a competitive advantage. If the goal of their rules is to ensure an even playing field, this is the logical conclusion.

4. Yep, that's my bad. I was under the impression that all 16xx cards used the old NVEC. It turns out that only the 1650 uses the old encoder.

1. I finished Metro Exodus and Control with everything maxed at 3440x1440, getting 60FPS avg is fine. Do you actually play any game ?

2. Just go to newegg, look for most rated 5700XT (Pulse and Gaming OC version) and see how many commented about drivers (more than half of them). Now do the same for 2060 Super and there is not a single one complained about driver lol.

3. Any competitive online shooter games will detect background programs and Reshade will get you banned because people can do a lot more than Image Sharpening with Reshade to get the competitive advantage.

The popular ReShade mod is now officially banned in PUBG

It's all a part of the effort to prevent cheating.

dotesports.com

 

[jbc029]

1. I finished Metro Exodus and Control with everything maxed at 3440x1440, getting 60FPS avg is fine. Do you actually play any game ?

Not on a 2060 Super, you didn't. Hell, even with dxr completely off you cant play either of those at UW 1440p and keep a solid 60 FPS with things maxed on a 2060 Super.

 

[treetops]

You know you can turn down the fan yourself right? A card using what 25% less power should not need the

1. I finished Metro Exodus and Control with everything maxed at 3440x1440, getting 60FPS avg is fine. Do you actually play any game ?

2. Just go to newegg, look for most rated 5700XT (Pulse and Gaming OC version) and see how many commented about drivers (more than half of them). Now do the same for 2060 Super and there is not a single one complained about driver lol.

3. Any competitive online shooter games will detect background programs and Reshade will get you banned because people can do a lot more than Image Sharpening with Reshade to get the competitive advantage.

The popular ReShade mod is now officially banned in PUBG

It's all a part of the effort to prevent cheating.

dotesports.com

Show us a video of your 2060 S at 60 fps 4k max settings max rt? The video you posted showed the guy using 720p on a 2060 Super... And those newegg reviews are followed by then I googled a fix. 4 stars average

 

[krizby]

Not on a 2060 Super, you didn't. Hell, even with dxr completely off you cant play either of those at UW 1440p and keep a solid 60 FPS with things maxed on a 2060 Super.

I use an 2080 Ti but you can get the same fps with 2060 Super at 1080p, point is with Gsync/Freesync monitor 60-80fps is acceptable for single player game as long as it's not shuttering.

You know you can turn down the fan yourself right? A card using what 25% less power should not need the

Show us a video of your 2060 S at 60 fps 4k max settings max rt? The video you posted showed the guy using 720p on a 2060 Super... And those newegg reviews are followed by then I googled a fix. 4 stars average

720p upscaled to 1080p using DLSS, which works pretty well in Control. I get the same fps as the vid with my 2080 Ti at 3440x1440p everything max + DLSS. Having RTX in that game make it feels completely different.

Let see newegg review:
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-rad...8-_-Product&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

User #1 gives 5 star
Not Gigabyte's fault, but AMD drivers need some work, so you will be getting a few crashes until the drivers mature. AMD is updating drivers frequently. I'm not going to knock and egg off for something that Gigabyte has no control over.

User #2 give 4 star
-Massive framedrops in some games. Perhaps a problem with early drivers?
-I got a BSOD once so far in the week of owning this card. This is an issue that people have reportedly experienced. Again, likely just driver problems

User #3 give 5 star
Driver issues but they should be fixed soon
Performance lacks in certain games (like GTA V)
Don't open MSI Afterburner

User #4 give 5 star
U most close msi afterburner becuse make screen flickier with the amd driver

User #5 give 5 star
- Driver issues cause BSOD's
- Drivers are absolutely terrible
- The card drivers suck

And many many more reviews which give 5 stars but complain about driver lol, note that people can still edit their reviews once the initial problems are gone.

 

[Puiu]

I bet you 100% of 2060 Super out there can be flashed with the Palit Super Jetstream version as they all carry the same Device ID, if not then it would reject your flashing anyways.
Basically if the cooling solution can handle I don't see why anyone wouldn't flash their 2060 Super to the 250W bios, aside from additional performance it would give you more stable clocks (tighter 0.1% low FPS).
Edit: apparently there is a 280W bios from Gigabyte

Gigabyte RTX 2060 Super VBIOS

8 GB GDDR6, 1470 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Only recommended if you have the 3 fans versions of the 2060 Super

Control has the best RTX implementation so far and you can play it perfectly on an 2060 Super

Yes I know AMD can enable DXR via software but the performance impact will be the same as 1660Ti without dedicated RT cores.

That's a very specific combination that many tested and is known to work, but that's not the only OEM on the market and you have different SKUs for the same OEM. It still doesn't change it's usage which I've specified before. It's good that it can be done, but very few will find it worth the risk.

As for DXR... thank you for proving my point. I was too lazy to find a link/video to prove such an obvious fact. That video you posted only gets those numbers by rendering the game at 720p with DLSS enabled (it's a freaking 400$ GPU dude, 500$ where I live). No wonder it looks like a blurry mess. (and it's not even holding 60 fps at all times)

Would you play like that? Definitely not. I think we've moved past 720p monitors.

 

[Stark]

And once again you compare wrong cards. Price wise RX 5700 XT = RTX 2060 Super. RX5700 is ca 10% cheaper than 2060 super. At least around here in EU.

Well he operates from Australia, so you know cant blame him for price all around the world. for examle, in my region custom 5700 cards was costlier than 2060 super, as it was launched nearly at the same price of 2060 super.

 

[m3tavision]

Steve, why are you comparing cards that are not comparable in price..?

The retail for the 2060 Super and the 5700xt are the same. So you compare those two cards, not the 5700. Fair is fair...

 

[m3tavision]

2060 Super is 6% slower than 5700XT

For 6% more performance you lose:
1. DXR performance (AMD is coming out with DXR any time now, without dedicated hardware on Navi there is no competition)
2. Driver stability
3. Image Sharpening on DX 11 games
4. Nvenc

What are those 1~4..?

1) Who cares about hardware directx ray tracing, when even dx11 games have RT now..? (Please don't subscribe to Jensen's hoax)
2) Comparted to what? AMD's driver suite is much more robust and better than Nvidia "GeForce experience" which most gamers do not use. I don't update my Nvidia's drivers each time, I skip them for months, because they always break something when they install.
3) Image sharpening by Nvidia is another hoax. You really shouldn't be allowed to spread misinformation, but I guess that is what you are paid here to do (always).
4) People don't buy Nvidia gaming cards, for Nvenc. Any gaming card can encode. Why does Nvenc matter..?

What Nvidia buyers do not get is rDNA and the base for which all games will be played on.

 

[m3tavision]

It's still the truth.

Here's one from 2019 for you.

AMD vs Nvidia in 2024: who is the graphics card champion?

When it comes to AMD vs Nvidia, the graphics card war never changes

www.techradar.com

I agree with this, if they stick to the bang for their buck mentality, they will do much better. When you factor in features as mentioned, Gsync quality over Freesync (not saying Freesync isn't awesome, its just not quite as good or polished) driver featues, Ray Tracing and generally superior and more consistent/stable drivers, you get the discrete market GPU share and Steam results you have today, at every price point. Any author of any article who acts like there are no other factors is not being truthful. It's more then just Nvidia is good at these things, AMD is good at these things, or the idea they both have the same amount of issue and features.... If that were true, the market share wouldn't be 80/20. It's simply the truth.

You quote TechRadar quite a bit... you own that Nvidia viral site?

Also, you keep talking about old AMD technology... as if on purpose. FreeSync 2.0 is AMD's standard and it is still free. You keep talking about freesync 1.0 and people just keep laughing at your viral attempts.

 

[amstech]

And you're at it again aren't you? How much is nVidia paying you to trash AMD?

I like AMD and have an AMD system as an HTPC, I've posted nothing but the truth, I haven't bashed anything or anyone, that's just a fanboy being defensive because god for bid someone say something you don't like about a damn brand. You need to stop being so touchy and defensive, see things neutrally and wonder why certain things are true.

But until the truth changes, neither will discrete GPU sales or Steam Hardware results.
Its an inferior product with inferior, less polished software.
(We all know Radeons have on average ran hotter and sucked more power for the better part of 10 years, not going to razz on them for that.)
Freesync was a reaction to Gsync, and its still not as polished/nice (as I showed).
AMD running RT was a reaction to Nvidia introducing RT.
They [Nvidia] is, and always have been, the leader, the more innovative and the more consistent brand and that's why 8/9 out of 10 people use a Nvidia GPU in their gaming PC. Not saying AMD doesn't come out with or innovate new gaming tech or features, just talking overall.
You and Eve can complain about it, act and talk like its not true, link me issues to Nvidia cards, and say their is no correlation to sales (which is nothing short of blatant denial and borderline insanity), but you can't change what is, and why it is.
85/15% Discrete Market Share.
90% of Steam users.
Sorry but for fanboys, the truth can sting if your loyal to a brand, which is even dumber then trying to argue for them. Instead of arguing like children, I am all for an open, respectful discussion about why, and where Nvidia and AMD need to improve. Anyways, this is a great review by Techspot if your just looking at raw performance, the 5700 has some juice for sure.

 

[Ravalo]

2060 Super is 6% slower than 5700XT

For 6% more performance you lose:
1. DXR performance (AMD is coming out with DXR any time now, without dedicated hardware on Navi there is no competition)
2. Driver stability
3. Image Sharpening on DX 11 games
4. Nvenc

1. I still dont care about rtx that much since it wont make my yt videos any better

2. I’ve only had driver issues when overclocking my rx 560 (a.k.a maxing out everything) but other than that I haven’t had many issues with amd drivers

3. I could always put my face closer to the screen when watching ct spawn from B site on dust 2

4. I guess its the only reason I’d use an rtx card for gaming/recording on a single pc

 

[m3tavision]

I like AMD and have an AMD system as an HTPC, I've posted nothing but the truth, I haven't bashed anything or anyone, that's just a fanboy being defensive because god for bid someone say something you don't like about a damn brand. You need to stop being so touchy and defensive, see things neutrally and wonder why certain things are true.

But until the truth changes, neither will discrete GPU sales or Steam Hardware results.
Its an inferior product with inferior, less polished software.
(We all know Radeons have on average ran hotter and sucked more power for the better part of 10 years, not going to razz on them for that.)
Freesync was a reaction to Gsync, and its still not as polished/nice (as I showed).
AMD running RT was a reaction to Nvidia introducing RT.
They [Nvidia] is, and always have been, the leader, the more innovative and the more consistent brand and that's why 8/9 out of 10 people use a Nvidia GPU in their gaming PC. Not saying AMD doesn't come out with or innovate new gaming tech or features, just talking overall.
You and Eve can complain about it, act and talk like its not true, link me issues to Nvidia cards, and say their is no correlation to sales (which is nothing short of blatant denial and borderline insanity), but you can't change what is, and why it is.
85/15% Discrete Market Share.
90% of Steam users.
Sorry but for fanboys, the truth can sting if your loyal to a brand, which is even dumber then trying to argue for them. Instead of arguing like children, I am all for an open, respectful discussion about why, and where Nvidia and AMD need to improve. Anyways, this is a great review by Techspot if your just looking at raw performance, the 5700 has some juice for sure.

You are 100% living in the past.

And reality hasn't hit you yet. You sound set in your ways & full of marketing speak, but you are not listening to us gamers. The ones buying these new round off 144hz gpus, etc.

Your post are a beautiful at pointing out the obvious and most trivial facts, & using (beating people over the heads) with it, instead of taking on their argument directly. Because you can not.


Nobody cares what Nvidia (or AMD) did in the past, only now. And today, as we speak, Nvidia can not touch AMD's rDNA architecture.

All your marketing speak is focused on BEFORE AMD released 7nm stuff. That is why you are so-ever focused on that and forever listing/touting/discussing nvidia's past glories. But those don't matter today, & nobody here cares about fake ray tracing. So stop pretending u are a gamer/end-user, because everyone here can see through your lipservice.


Nvidia announced the price of their "little SUPER" and now they are about to get jebatied again, by kung fu Dr Su…! That is the reality as we stand right now.



Nvidia has nothing for the next 11 months, to compete with anything 7nm Navi/rDNA(1/2) on Price/Performance.

Jensen let his throne slip away...

 

[krizby]

That's a very specific combination that many tested and is known to work, but that's not the only OEM on the market and you have different SKUs for the same OEM. It still doesn't change it's usage which I've specified before. It's good that it can be done, but very few will find it worth the risk.

As for DXR... thank you for proving my point. I was too lazy to find a link/video to prove such an obvious fact. That video you posted only gets those numbers by rendering the game at 720p with DLSS enabled (it's a freaking 400$ GPU dude, 500$ where I live). No wonder it looks like a blurry mess. (and it's not even holding 60 fps at all times)

Would you play like that? Definitely not. I think we've moved past 720p monitors.

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Oh well deny all you want Control is still one of the best game of 2019, even Techspot thinks so, and with the best RTX + DLSS implementation make it next gen graphic.

https://www.techspot.com/bestof/pc-games/
RTX + DLSS analysis
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/control_rtx_raytracing_pc_analysis/1

I finished both Control and Metro Exodus with 60-70fps avg, didn't bother me one bit. The immersion that RTX give to the games make them truly next gen. Oh well you can skip both games, knowing that they are the best games of 2019, just because you can save a few bucks on GPU. Really if bang for buck is all you care about just play on console.

FYI I flashed my Asus 2080 Ti with the Palit model for more power limit (280W --> 310W). In this 2080Ti owners club forum there is about 1000 pages about people flashing 380W power limit bios to their 2080 Ti or even XOC bios that have all limits removed (power and thermal limit). The higher the power limit the more performance it gives until the 400W marker.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-nvidia/1706276-official-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-owner-s-club.html

It's quite frustrating to see that HU knows how to flash a 5700 with 5700XT bios but oblivious to the fact that 2060 Super can gain quite a bit of performance by flashing it with a higher power limit bios.

 

[treetops]

To bad Nvidia would through a fit if Steam released an article showing how many people actually use RT.

 

[treetops]

I use an 2080 Ti but you can get the same fps with 2060 Super at 1080p, point is with Gsync/Freesync monitor 60-80fps is acceptable for single player game as long as it's not shuttering.



720p upscaled to 1080p using DLSS, which works pretty well in Control. I get the same fps as the vid with my 2080 Ti at 3440x1440p everything max + DLSS. Having RTX in that game make it feels completely different.

Let see newegg review:
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-gv-r57xtgaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932208?Item=N82E16814932208&Description=rx 5700 xt&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&cm_re=rx_5700_xt-_-14-932-208-_-Product&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

User #1 gives 5 star
Not Gigabyte's fault, but AMD drivers need some work, so you will be getting a few crashes until the drivers mature. AMD is updating drivers frequently. I'm not going to knock and egg off for something that Gigabyte has no control over.

User #2 give 4 star
-Massive framedrops in some games. Perhaps a problem with early drivers?
-I got a BSOD once so far in the week of owning this card. This is an issue that people have reportedly experienced. Again, likely just driver problems

User #3 give 5 star
Driver issues but they should be fixed soon
Performance lacks in certain games (like GTA V)
Don't open MSI Afterburner

User #4 give 5 star
U most close msi afterburner becuse make screen flickier with the amd driver

User #5 give 5 star
- Driver issues cause BSOD's
- Drivers are absolutely terrible
- The card drivers suck

And many many more reviews which give 5 stars but complain about driver lol, note that people can still edit their reviews once the initial problems are gone.

Show us a video please. What resolution are you up or downscaling too? And from.

 

[m3tavision]

Oh well deny all you want Control is still one of the best game of 2019, even Techspot thinks so, and with the best RTX + DLSS implementation make it next gen graphic.
https://www.techspot.com/bestof/pc-games/
RTX + DLSS analysis
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/control_rtx_raytracing_pc_analysis/1

I finished both Control and Metro Exodus with 60-70fps avg, didn't bother me one bit. The immersion that RTX give to the games make them truly next gen. Oh well you can skip both games, knowing that they are the best games of 2019, just because you can save a few bucks on GPU. Really if bang for buck is all you care about just play on console.

FYI I flashed my Asus 2080 Ti with the Palit model for more power limit (280W --> 310W). In this 2080Ti owners club forum there is about 1000 pages about people flashing 380W power limit bios to their 2080 Ti or even XOC bios that have all limits removed (power and thermal limit). The higher the power limit the more performance it gives until the 400W marker.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-nvidia/1706276-official-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-owner-s-club.html

It's quite frustrating to see that HU knows how to flash a 5700 with 5700XT bios but oblivious to the fact that 2060 Super can gain quite a bit of performance by flashing it with a higher power limit bios.

Control is a decent game. But it is not made better with Ray tracing, it was just made worse without it. (On purpose, per nvidia's marketing team.) And you are right, that you finished Control with you $1500 GPU and are now juicing all over threads, telling everyone about your $1500 gpu experience. And that People should buy a $250 nvidia card, because they will have the same experience... is laughable.

It is not logical, or even fathomable. Yet you keep plugging nvidia because it's obvious you are not real gamer. We also need to hear how good Alan Wake plays on your 2080ti...

Subsequently, the mere fact you are touting DLSS, is an easy way to see threw your facade. DLSS is recognized the gaming world over, as a complete joke.

 

[krizby]

Control is a decent game. But it is not made better with Ray tracing, it was just made worse without it. (On purpose, per nvidia's marketing team.) And you are right, that you finished Control with you $1500 GPU and are now juicing all over threads, telling everyone about your $1500 gpu experience. And that People should buy a $250 nvidia card, because they will have the same experience... is laughable.

It is not logical, or even fathomable. Yet you keep plugging nvidia because it's obvious you are not real gamer. We also need to hear how good Alan Wake plays on your 2080ti...

Subsequently, the mere fact you are touting DLSS, is an easy way to see threw your facade. DLSS is recognized the gaming world over, as a complete joke.

Reflection and Transparent reflections with RTX looks awesome in Control, just have a look at the article. FYI I use a 3440x1440 120hz screen which is 2.4x more pixel than a 1080p screen, of course the fps I get with 2080Ti at this resolution is lower than a 2060Super get at 1080p. I'm not entitled enough to demand that my 1200usd GPU must get 100+fps in all games though, just give me the best visuals at 60-80fps is fine.

hm...not a real gamer, here is my steam acc

show me what RDNA game you have played huh ?

Show us a video please. What resolution are you up or downscaling too? And from.

Upscale from 2293x960, refer to this reddit post pls as I'm away from my PC atm

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/cwkq5h

 

[neeyik]

Aaaannnnd it's another thread that's descended into arguments about people, and not the actual topic to hand. Stop now please folks, so we don't have to start deleting posts; thanks in advance.

 

[EdmondRC]

My RX 5700 is running at 2025mhz which is 15.7% above the stock clock. I'm getting results very close to the RX 5700 XT stock. I'm not sure how far you can push the RTX 2060S, but with a little tweaking and using custom power tables I can confirm that you can push the RX 5700 way past stock. If I had a better cooler I could probably even get a little more out of it. The XT is stock at 1.2v I have the non-XT @ 1.135v. Max temps are 83C. This is a reference card so a better cooler would likely pay dividends.