Ryzen 7 5800X vs. Core i7-11700K vs. Ryzen 7 2700X: 30 Game Benchmark

MaxSmarties

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Lol I thought when I logged in my account would be banned, not yet I guess! Haha.
Anyways great to see some truth posted here once in awhile.
According to site checker, Techspot's continuing decline, continues:
https://sitechecker.pro/app/main/traffic-checker-land?pageUrl=techspot.com

I'd post the image of the graph but basically their site traffic has decreased by nearly 1/3 in the last 6 months alone. This type of thing has happened to many 'woke' sites. So many journalists (and many mods on this site) are poorly disciplined liberals/brats filtering out anything that doesn't fit their liberal woke agenda, and injecting their spin/views on things like whimpering babies. We are living in the generation of the brat. Nothing will come of this woke liberal trashy nonsense, and no amount of news media spinning their nonsense will change anything. Race is not an excuse for incompetence.

As far as this article, forums are RIDDLED with AMD issues on new builds, mostly stuttering and choppy performance. The charts look nice but STILL, on 2021, after all this time, AMD only matches Intel's copy and pasted architecture from 2010 AND it still has issues. Like a Dodge Ram, its still a Dodge (2020 2500 has almost 50 recalls, my 2020 2500HD Silverado has 14) and AMD is still AMD, with the same quality issues, stuttering, and micro-stuttering issues across various builds and setups.

https://community.amd.com/t5/processors/5800x-brand-new-build-stutters/td-p/456635
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/forums/...tters-on-ryzen-7-5800x-and-6800-system.81902/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/805550/discussions/0/3111394481603275504/

Let me guess, a liberal mod will read this comment, delete it and say it's inappropriate?
But ya know whats not inappropriate? Losing another 33% of your traffic in 6 months.
I'm not a liberal mod , but your post is meaningless.
I could easily post many links about stuttering and complaints about Intel setups as well.
Not all the customers (and even system builders) are competent.
Zen 3 is just working much better than Intel in basically everything.
I have a 5900X, a 5800X and a 10700 in my house and never had any stuttering in any game.
 

MaxSmarties

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Also, folks using Corsair RAM with AMD 5xxx series CPUs can run into a lot of issues. For some reason Corsair RAM just seems to be kind of hit and miss.
exactly. I usually suggest not to use Corsair RAM (especially vengeance LPX) on AMD systems.
Crucial Ballistix most of the time are a better value, and G.Skills have no issues with Ryzen.
 

Neatfeatguy

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I'm not a liberal mod , but your post is meaningless.
I could easily post many links about stuttering and complaints about Intel setups as well.
Not all the customers (and even system builders) are competent.
Zen 3 is just working much better than Intel in basically everything.
I have a 5900X, a 5800X and a 10700 in my house and never had any stuttering in any game.

I just saw someone post on another tech forum the other day about how they upgraded the BIOS for their 5800x setup and now things aren't working as good as they used to for RAM timings/speed and he wanted to know how to fix the problem.....

A person that can dink around with RAM timings to tweak his OC, but he can't figure out that he should go back to the previous BIOS he was using.....I'd have agree with you that not all computer users are competent.

I told him, if the new BIOS isn't working correctly for his needs and the old one was, go back to the previous BIOS.

I guess I'm still amazed at now many people try to fix what isn't broken. People do this with GPU drivers all the time, too. Remember, people - If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
 

MaxSmarties

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I just saw someone post on another tech forum the other day about how they upgraded the BIOS for their 5800x setup and now things aren't working as good as they used to for RAM timings/speed and he wanted to know how to fix the problem.....

A person that can dink around with RAM timings to tweak his OC, but he can't figure out that he should go back to the previous BIOS he was using.....I'd have agree with you that not all computer users are competent.

I told him, if the new BIOS isn't working correctly for his needs and the old one was, go back to the previous BIOS.

I guess I'm still amazed at now many people try to fix what isn't broken. People do this with GPU drivers all the time, too. Remember, people - If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
well, I don't rush to update BIOS, once I found a stable version, but for GPU drivers is quite different, because support/improvements on new games are added on every release.
 

Lew Zealand

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They actually were at least 10% slower than Intel at 1440P (I had a 3900X at the time), so that wsn't exactly "good" in my opinion. I was more than pleased by my 3900X, because gaming wasn't my only activity on the PC.
But if you think about the too much touted Ryzen 3600, I still think it wasn't a good CPU for gaming.

Going by Techspot's comparo of the R5 3600 and Core i5-10400, the 3600 is definitely a good gaming CPU, and maybe a great one when considering the price:


The 2600 is also on those charts and is more than 10% down at 1080 but less so at 1440, and that's with the top end GPU. With a GPU more logically matched in price, the 2600 becomes a good gaming CPU. Not great, but certainly good.
 

MaxSmarties

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Going by Techspot's comparo of the R5 3600 and Core i5-10400, the 3600 is definitely a good gaming CPU, and maybe a great one when considering the price:


The 2600 is also on those charts and is more than 10% down at 1080 but less so at 1440, and that's with the top end GPU. With a GPU more logically matched in price, the 2600 becomes a good gaming CPU. Not great, but certainly good.
Good if you compare it to a dirty cheap 10400 (it was down to 130€ here in Europe).
 

Lew Zealand

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Good if you compare it to a dirty cheap 10400 (it was down to 130€ here in Europe).
The 10400 is TS's current recommended affordable gaming CPU so that should defo make it good. Great is probably a 9900K or better (10700K+, 11700K+, 5600+). Even the once-leader 8700K might merely be a good gaming CPU nowadays though but it's not listed in the 5600X review. Why?? Even the 7700K was tested there!


Though in that review, the 3600 is slipping vs. the 10400 in the first review, so maybe the Intel CPU has more long term potential than the 3600?
 

Tom Sunday

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These articles are great for the general public and the less tech savy. There is way more of them than us.

Yes…we who maintain (build) our own PC’s today represent less than 0.5% of the masses. And as technology advances that number may even shrink further. Also for an article like this to appear so very late in the year and with Intel’s revolutionary chip offering only a mere 40-days away, this review is practically useless to an informed consumer. Who would upgrade now with much more educated chip information and choices right around the corner? One can however assume that this was strictly a “filler article” as we are in a period of "nothing going on" in the PC world right now until the tsunami hits in October. Then we will have something to really talk about!