Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Ryzen 9 7900X3D and 7950X3D

What we've learned from previous articles and videos is the fact that if you game at 1440p and your video card is below RTX 4080,you can continue to use your Ryzen 5600, that is more than enough to run all games.

If you want more,wait for the Ryzen 9600,it will come with 64 MB of cache and improved performance above Ryzen 7700x !
 
Benchmarking tends to bring out the "I need more" in everyone, but I'd be happy with any of those chips for many years. If I were to buy a 7800X3D today I would probably daily drive it for atleast 5 years.

It looks like AMD is planning on moving to 16 core chiplets for zen6 so a single chiplet CPU with 3Dvcache would be the next logical upgrade.
 
Good to know that the 7800x3D is significantly faster in this scenario, but if you benchmark at 1440p or 4k the difference between any of these CPUs is negligible, even with a GeForce RTX4090.

For any lesser GPU (I.e. everything else) the difference will be even less

Therefore spend your money on the best graphics card that you can afford and don't worry about the CPU
 
I do not live close to a Microcenter store. But luckily I have a family member who does. They picked up a 5600X3D for me. This was a great upgrade from a Ryzen 5 3600.
 
What we've learned from previous articles and videos is the fact that if you game at 1440p and your video card is below RTX 4080,you can continue to use your Ryzen 5600, that is more than enough to run all games.

If you want more,wait for the Ryzen 9600,it will come with 64 MB of cache and improved performance above Ryzen 7700x !
Not if you play Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. You need a robust CPU to play this game if you want the scenery to look good. The jump in Level of Detail was quite dramatic after I made the jump from a Ryzen 5700G to a 5800X3D.
 
What we've learned from previous articles and videos is the fact that if you game at 1440p and your video card is below RTX 4080,you can continue to use your Ryzen 5600, that is more than enough to run all games.

If you want more,wait for the Ryzen 9600,it will come with 64 MB of cache and improved performance above Ryzen 7700x !

*In most games

I upgraded from a 5600 to a 5800X3D (the 5600 went to a 1600AF machine, everyone wins!) and the difference with a 6800 XT at 1440p is welcome in some CPU-heavy/broken games or games with instantaneous high CPU requirements, like Hogwarts Legacy and Minecraft at long view distances. Much smoother. Was the 5600 broken in those games? No, it was good enough but the 5800X3D is better and very welcome for those games where it matters.
 
Imagine if someone like me (I am still using a 4770K haswell to game) owned a 5800X3D.

They would probably use it for 2 decades.

I game pretty often with a Haswell 4790 (non-K) and you know it works pretty damn well for 60fps though not for many of today's newest games. No big deal, there are boatloads of great games from 3+ years which still play at 60 FPS on Haswell iron.
 
What's strange is that since the prior 7800X3D 5800X3D article, in Spider Man (High + RT 1080p) the 7800X3D improved while the 5800X3D got worse.

FPS (1% lows) June 2023 --> April 2024
7800X3D = 156 (134) --> 164 (135)
5800X3D = 142 (114) --> 136 (97)
 
Good to know that the 7800x3D is significantly faster in this scenario, but if you benchmark at 1440p or 4k the difference between any of these CPUs is negligible, even with a GeForce RTX4090.

For any lesser GPU (I.e. everything else) the difference will be even less

Therefore spend your money on the best graphics card that you can afford and don't worry about the CPU
Not true.

Check the June 2023 7800X3D 5800X3D article data:

Spider-Man High + RT at 4K
7800X3D 148 (125 lows)
5800X3D 132 (101 lows)

Hogwarts Ultra + RT at 4K
7800X3D 63 (39 lows)
5800X3D 55 (29 lows)

Hogwarts Ultra + RT at 1440 (since 4K was borderline unplayable)
7800X3D 76 (51 lows)
5800X3D 56 (34 lows)

While testing at 1080p ensures CPU boundedness, there are games held back by the CPU even at 4K.
 
The 5800X3D is probably one of the best CPUs ever created.

Intel can’t be be too pleased seeing the success, because they abandoned their large cache Broadwell CPUs really quickly (at the time they too were the fastest gaming CPU).

Obvious performance uptick aside, it launched for AM4 and is a drop in upgrade to the literal millions of compatible systems out there.

Little wonder it sold well and continues to do so. I picked one up late 2022 and the performance was immediately noticeable. The fact that at 4K it’s not slowing a RTX 4090 in benches is also good news.
 
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How did the 7950x3d lose in cyberpunk? I have both that and the 7800x3d and the 7950x3d has yet to lose in a single game although I admit you have to know which games prefer cache vs cores and speed.
 
Thinking about moving up to the 5800x3d..
but currently my aging 8400 is still enough for daily work and casual gaming..
unless its dead or want to play serious games (or do heavy multitasking), then I don't need a CPU other than that..
 
The One main thing that has kept me from not upgrading from my 3950x to any of the newer 5950x, or 7950x is that when using a 4090 to 4k game (the main use of this pc), all the benchmarks I read show very little difference between the 3 choices as everything is so gpu bound at 4k. Sure I'd get ddr5 and pcie5 and usb4, but all the benchmarks I've read don't lie........ I'd be spending hundreds on new mb, ram, cpu, and potentially new NVME's to get a marginal upgrade. Maybe the 9950x will give me a big enough boost to pull the trigger. we shall see! If only I used more of the creator side of this cpu's abilities, maybe I could see the reason to justify....... Anyone else out there have a 3950 and 4090 combo, that are also on the fence? (or not even on it, but looking at it going "What for?")
 
You guys should take a look at MSI Kombo Strike - level 3 can deliver a very nice undervolt with higher sustained clocks and lower temps. My 5700X3D can get at least a 5% boost in most games over the default setting.
 
What we've learned from previous articles and videos is the fact that if you game at 1440p and your video card is below RTX 4080,you can continue to use your Ryzen 5600, that is more than enough to run all games.

If you want more,wait for the Ryzen 9600,it will come with 64 MB of cache and improved performance above Ryzen 7700x !

Not entirely true. I play at 1440p with a mere Radeon 5700X, but upgrading from 5600 to 5800X3D was very beneficial for Hell Let Loose, Rising Storm 2 and Flight SImulator 2020 (+20 % in average, +100 % in lows). Not everyone is palying console ports made for strong GPU/weak CPU combo.
 
My 5800x3d has continued to be the GOAT of CPUs. Maybe in another 7 years I'll find a reason to upgrade.

I ran a 2600k for a *long* while; eventually upgraded to a 7700k when my motherboard gave out, but was otherwise planning to wait a few more generations before upgrading.
 
Better but u missed the use of 4000 ddr4 ram which is the sweet spot on the last gen am4 same as 3600 ram was for zen2
Now it won't make a major impact in most cases fkr this but it would be enough to be worth while adding in and even more so for ram semsitive games

Its much the same as 6000 ddr5 on the currentbgen that 1:1 matters


Oh and /facepalm at your not doing the same with a 7900xtx since not only are their ppl smart enough to not support team greed but the difference in drivers etc wo nvidias crapware can be interesting. :)
 
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