Samsung set to reveal a true 'Zero Bezel' TV next week at CES 2020

[Squid Surprise]

Yes. Barely anybody cared about 4K or 8K resolution or curved screens 10 years ago. Barely anybody cared about 1080p resolution 20 years ago. People will eventually care because they want the latest and greatest thing.

As for your example, tablets/ereaders only "solved" problems in retrospect that many people didn't realize were problems in the first place. When these tablets and e-readers first came out, there were people wondering what the point of these things were when you could just use a laptop and do the same thing with more functionality. It totally seemed like trying to solve a problem that didn't exist. And folks were wondering why anyone would pay the same price for a e-copy of a book when you could get a physical copy that lasts your entire life and you can easily loan out one at a time.

Just like how chromebooks and tablet-laptop hybrids seem kind of redundant now in the face of tablets and slim laptops, but it still fulfills a niche that seems useful in retrospect.

Bezeless TVs will also "solve" problems that people didn't realize to be problems in retrospect.

4K and 8K are still virtually useless for televisions... but you can’t get a high quality tv that isn’t 4K, so if you want HDR 10, etc, you need to go 4K.... but the human eye can’t distinguish the difference unless your screen is huge and you’re sitting really close...

And there’s a difference between a new technology and simply making existing technology look “nicer”.

Equating the elimination of bezels with the invention of the tablet and e-reader is nonsensical.

How about equating it with the invention of the “Gorilla Ball” candy...

 

[Buhaj]

I'd take zero blooming rather than zero bezel, but that's me...

 

[fps4ever]

Yes. Barely anybody cared about 4K or 8K resolution or curved screens 10 years ago. Barely anybody cared about 1080p resolution 20 years ago. People will eventually care because they want the latest and greatest thing.

As for your example, tablets/ereaders only "solved" problems in retrospect that many people didn't realize were problems in the first place. When these tablets and e-readers first came out, there were people wondering what the point of these things were when you could just use a laptop and do the same thing with more functionality. It totally seemed like trying to solve a problem that didn't exist. And folks were wondering why anyone would pay the same price for a e-copy of a book when you could get a physical copy that lasts your entire life and you can easily loan out one at a time.

Just like how chromebooks and tablet-laptop hybrids seem kind of redundant now in the face of tablets and slim laptops, but it still fulfills a niche that seems useful in retrospect.

Bezeless TVs will also "solve" problems that people didn't realize to be problems in retrospect.

Chromebooks solved a financial and security problem that Microsoft dropped the ball on and lost a lot of business. Google took advantage of a forgotten market is all. What practical problem does this solve unlike every example you gave? Financially, lol I doubt it. Thinner bezels means more money as history shows us. Let me guess "art". That is a lot of words for something you still can't explain.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

4K and 8K are still virtually useless for televisions... but you can’t get a high quality tv that isn’t 4K, so if you want HDR 10, etc, you need to go 4K.... but the human eye can’t distinguish the difference unless your screen is huge and you’re sitting really close...

And there’s a difference between a new technology and simply making existing technology look “nicer”.

Equating the elimination of bezels with the invention of the tablet and e-reader is nonsensical.

How about equating it with the invention of the “Gorilla Ball” candy...

You're making arbitrary distinctions between improvements in tech vs new tech here. I could just as well say a tablet is basically a larger smart phone or a touch screen laptop with an e-keyboard, so tablets are merely an "improvement" to smart phones or slim laptops rather than some totally new technology.
4K is not virtually useless for TVs. It's great for larger TVs and if you're using them as a monitor.

And the tech in Bezels TVs most likely has new technology. It's not as simple as simply "removing bezels" to get a bezeless TV - if it was that easy then we would've had these over a decade ago.

LCD bezels aren't just useless deadspace - there are parts of the LCD that are under the plastic. If they removed the bezels that means they were able to shrink or more efficiently allocate components so they no longer need bezel space.
Bezels also serve a purpose of making the LCDs more resilient so the entire thing doesn't crack if you bump the side of your monitor against something. This bezeless design likely had some new type of shock absorbing polymers/materials coating the edges so the entire screen doesn't crack when you bump the edges into something. The LCDs and structure must be extra resilient to make it into something like this.

There are plenty of potential new tech going into this thing. It's not like some dude just took a power saw and cut away the existing bezels.

And don't you see the potential in stacked room sized displays, virtual reality, and altered reality when you have LCD displays that are nothing but display panels with zero bezels?

 

[netman]

Samsung is behind LG OLED technology so they are introducing zero bezel to somehow compensate...!

 

[Bluescreendeath]

Chromebooks solved a financial and security problem that Microsoft dropped the ball on and lost a lot of business. Google took advantage of a forgotten market is all. What practical problem does this solve unlike every example you gave? Financially, lol I doubt it. Thinner bezels means more money as history shows us. Let me guess "art". That is a lot of words for something you still can't explain.

We will know in a few years. A lot of stuff we used to think was useless or only aesthetically beneficial have gone on to make life more convenient and technology better in more practical ways.

But I already see a lot of potential for bezeless displays. Now we can actually stack multiple monitors/TVs together and make a seemless transition into a bigger monitor/TV. Imagine lining 3x3 of these onto a wall. Or 10 x 10 of these on the side of a building forming a single giant monitor.

Imagine if they upscaled bezeless displays and used them for VR and altered reality. An entire wall being nothing but a giant LCD panel that makes it seem like it isn't a wall but an entirely different environment on the other side.

See this video of the game Prey as an example at 11:42:

I see bezeless displays as a first step towards flown blown hologram displays when combined with holographic tech.

 

[Squid Surprise]

You're making arbitrary distinctions between improvements in tech vs new tech here. I could just as well say a tablet is basically a larger smart phone or a touch screen laptop with an e-keyboard, so tablets are merely an "improvement" to smart phones or slim laptops rather than some totally new technology.
4K is not virtually useless for TVs. It's great for larger TVs and if you're using them as a monitor.

And the tech in Bezels TVs most likely has new technology. It's not as simple as simply "removing bezels" to get a bezeless TV - if it was that easy then we would've had these over a decade ago.

LCD bezels aren't just useless deadspace - there are parts of the LCD that are under the plastic. If they removed the bezels that means they were able to shrink or more efficiently allocate components so they no longer need bezel space.
Bezels also serve a purpose of making the LCDs more resilient so the entire thing doesn't crack if you bump the side of your monitor against something. This bezeless design likely had some new type of shock absorbing polymers/materials coating the edges so the entire screen doesn't crack when you bump the edges into something. The LCDs and structure must be extra resilient to make it into something like this.

There are plenty of potential new tech going into this thing. It's not like some dude just took a power saw and cut away the existing bezels.

And don't you see the potential in stacked room sized displays, virtual reality, and altered reality when you have LCD displays that are nothing but display panels with zero bezels?

Of course they're arbitrary... there are millions of tech advances to choose from... I'm not giving you that list!

I'm not arguing as to whether there will be tech advances that derive from "no-bezel" technology in the future - no one can predict that - hey, NASA's space race gave us VELCRO!

I'm arguing that most consumers, IN THE PRESENT, do not require bezel-less televisions that cost more money and give no other benefits.

Yes, I see how bezel-less tech will make TVs modular one day - with the ability to stack hundreds of these when making stadium "jumbotrons" for instance... but this doesn't benefit us now - and anyone who purchases one now is simply a fool (albeit a rich one).

As for your "rebuttal" on 4k - I suggest you re-read my previous post as that's pretty much exactly what I already stated

 

[Burty117]

No update on MicroLED or QD-OLED tech then? That's a shame, Samsung would finally have something to go against LG's OLED offerings.

 

[gc757]

Advancement in technology will continue whether the narrow minded like it or not. I do agree that most of the new tech should not be so expensive that only the wealthy might afford to own it... But seeing many of the negative comments posted I conclude most are probably done by the same people that expect a great landscape picture from a narrow vertical cell phone screen...

 

[fps4ever]

When all else fails insult people you don't agree with. Some people would prefer they spend their engineering resources and dollars fixing more practical problems and advancements then engineering for aesthetic purposes. I don't see a household needing to stack 4 60" TV's with no bezels that cost four times as much and uses way more electricity. They already have that capability for corporations and sports stadiums. Calling that narrow minded is based on ignorance.

 

[Markoni35]

Zero bezel is crap. I once bought a monitor with a thin bezel. You can't carry it without pressing the screen, which can damage it. I also realized that bezel separates the picture on the monitor from the background. Without the bezel background was a lot more distracting.