Samsung's new EV battery tech gives vehicles a 310-mile range from a 20-minute charge

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Jan 10, 2017
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  1. Samsung probably isn’t the first company that comes to mind when you think of excellent battery performance. But while it may take a while for the Korean firm to escape the Note 7’s ghost, its lithium ion and renewable subsidiary – Samsung SDI – is making some huge strides in the world of electric vehicle batteries.

    Two of the big drawbacks with EVs are the limited range provided by their batteries and the time they take to charge, but Samsung SDI’s new battery cells could solve the problem. The company claims that the improved density in its “next generation” battery offers 373 miles of driving on a single charge. Plus, it takes just 20 minutes to charge the battery to 80 percent capacity, allowing a vehicle to travel around 310 miles.

    For comparison, the batteries in Tesla’s Model 3 allow for around 215 miles travel on a single charge, and juicing them to full capacity takes around an hour. 30 minutes on a Supercharger station, meanwhile, will give a Tesla about 170 miles of range.

    Samsung SDI unveiled the batteries at Detroit’s North American International Auto Show 2017, where it also showed off its "integrated battery module” concept. The new design is lighter, safer, and comes with fewer components compared to conventional EV batteries, while still boasting a larger capacity.

    It’ll be a while before we see these high-energy density battery cells. Samsung SDI says they’re not planning mass production until the year 2021, by which time there should be even more electric vehicles on the roads.

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  2. Bigtruckseries

    Bigtruckseries TS Evangelist Posts: 583   +318

    Charging 310 miles of range in 20 minutes when we already know it takes Tesla 1-hour to return 275 miles of range?

    The explosions are going to be EPIC.

    [note: I've personally recharged our Tesla P90DL in the JFK supercharger and it takes no less than 50 minutes. The car does not charge all batteries to full capacity. It keeps different levels of charge in different banks of batteries]
  3. tomkaten

    tomkaten TS Maniac Posts: 222   +143

    @Samsung: You blasted our trousers, please show some mercy to our families :)
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  4. stewi0001

    stewi0001 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,685   +1,083

    Putting aside all the Samsung exploding jokes, I cannot get too excited since it is still lithium ion.

    The wait for new battery tech continues.... I lost count as to how many years we have been waiting.
    Seraphim401 likes this.
  5. Fobus

    Fobus TS Enthusiast Posts: 68   +48

    Car battery tech is on the cusp of good enough for most use cases. Little by little capacity increases and charge time decreases, to the point where cheaper charging compared to ICE and lower cost of maintenance might make fully electric cars an attractive alternative. 300-400 miles might be good enough to last whole week for short commuters, and charging it only during weekends. Samsung might be too late with this in 2021...

    Once capacity creeps up beyond, they can just put smaller batteries, lowering the cost of car, and displacing what's left of gas engine vehicles.

    Buses, trucks, etc they will go down first, as they have clearly defined routes. Make a swap station at convenient points and you can make a good business case. Can't wait for this future.
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    JKnight TS Rookie

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  13. ChrisH1

    ChrisH1 TS Booster Posts: 68   +46

    Any improvement in EV technology is a Good Thing. But while there is a lot of hype, there is also a lot of under-thinking IMHO.

    There is no magic in batteries, if you get 310 miles of range vs. 270 miles, it's because the battery can store more kilowatt-hours of energy. Charging efficiency is a separate issue. If it CAN store more energy, and assuming all things are equal it can store 310/270 * 100 (current Tesla P100 capacity) = about 115 kW/h, then to charge it in 20 minutes assuming no losses (very unlikely) means an input current of 345 kW.

    The Tesla Superchargers are the fastest charging stations available, and they do about 120 kW. The 'wire' going to the socket is about an inch and a half (~ 4cm) thick. By contrast, most Type 3 chargers used run to about 50kW, which is why the Tesla supercharger was designed.

    Where are you going to charge the thing? Assuming you have 3 such cars charging at once, that's a megawatt.
    A whole new infrastructure would need to be designed and built from the ground up. Your charging cable would be massive, maybe have to be liquid cooled. Your internal wiring in the car would be massive, even at 800v thats 430 amps!

    It's far more likely that existing technology would be reused, and you'd just be able to charge up quicker, maybe just under an hour.
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    JKnight TS Rookie

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    Bigtruckseries TS Evangelist Posts: 583   +318

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    JKnight TS Rookie

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    JKnight TS Rookie

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    Bigtruckseries TS Evangelist Posts: 583   +318

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    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,188   +470

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  21. Bigtruckseries

    Bigtruckseries TS Evangelist Posts: 583   +318

    You're so right. I think I got my point across.

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