So you only have PCI slots and want to game?

[vnf4ultra]

How much ram do you have? When a system has very little ram, quitting a game makes the computer "unuseable" for a while while it swaps data around. But it shouldn't take more than a few minutes at most. I'd be interested to see benchmarks, especially 3dmark05/3dmark06.

 

[Jottle]

RAM shouldn't be an issue. I have 1GB. Could my pagefile setting have anything to do with this?
BTW, I will download 3dmar05 and 05 as well. I'm running a Celeron D though.

 

[Jottle]

I will update this post with the other 3dmark versions as I download and test them:

CARD: DIAMOND X1550 256PSB PCI
RAM: 1GB
PSU: 500W
PROCESSOR: INTEL CELERON D 2.53GHZ
SCREEN RESOLUTION: 1024x768

3DMARK '01 SCORE : 5730 (default benchmark w/double frame buffer)

3DMARK '03 SCORE : 2554

3DMARK '05 SCORE : 1257

 

[frus]

this is interesting
even for a celeron this card rocks, i woulndt count 3dmark 01, but on 3d mark 03 and 05 it perform better than the x1300 as i said before, even using a 2,5 celeron so this is good
i want that card right now

 

[Jottle]

newegg.com is selling it for $87 after $20 mail in rebate. That's where I got mine. ebay isn't any cheaper at this point.

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[frus]

thanks for the info
you got ur 3dmark2006 results?
and also have u tried to run 3dmark2001 again? beacuse i saw more than 7000 points with the x1300, i dont know why the x1550 runs slower then the x1300 for 3dmark 2001

 

[Jottle]

I'll download 3dmark 06 over the weekend and test it. '05 was gong extremely slow, since this isn't exactly the fastest card. I think 06 is going to be quite low numbers. I'll also rerun 2001 for you. The free version of 2001 allows you to adjust some of the benchmarking parameters. The numbers you got with the 1300 may have been with a lower resolution than 1024X768 or lower graphical settings. I will see what I can mess with.

 

[Wagan8r]

Has anyone purchassed the HIS X1550? The Diamond X1550 is actually worse than the Diamond X1300. The core and memory are clocked at 450/520 vs 450/533. The HIS X1500 is the one to get with the core and memory clocked at 550/800, plus it has more overclocking potential.

 

[Jottle]

I think that may be incorrect. If you look at Diamond's website, the x1300 pci is 450/250 and the 1550 is 450/520. Also, don't the different GPU's mean anything? I'm just going off Diamond's specs, which I'm not too sure how to interpret. Are you looking at the pci or pci-e?

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[Wagan8r]

I'm talking about the PCI versions. If you just look on Newegg here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103031
for the X1550, and here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129062
for the X1300, you can see what I mean.

I went to Diamond's website and saw what you meant by the memory @ 250MHz. That is either a typo or they have changed the X1300 since releasing the X1550. The VisionTek and Diamond X1300 were identical when Newegg carried them both, with core and memory @ 450/533. The Diamond X1300 has just been replaced with the X1550. The difference between the gpus is in the naming of the products. X1550 sound more high end than X1300. The only hardware change is that they went from a 90nm die to an 80nm die, which theoretically means more overclocking potential, as HIS has done:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161074

I hope that made sense.

 

[Jottle]

Yes it does. But where does it state that the only difference is the renaming of the hardware gpu?

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[Rage_3K_Moiz]

It's never stated anywhere, which is the point. ATi/AMD doesn't want the common public to know that the X1550 and X1300 are identical products, since if they sell more of the higher-priced, more-powerful-sounding X1550, they profit more. NVIDIA did this too with its infamous FX5200 & FX5500.

 

[Jottle]

That's some bullsh*t! Thanks a lot ATI

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[Wagan8r]

Ya. At this point I've just given up on trying to upgrade my computer. I think I'm just going to wait untill I graduate from college to build myself a new computer. Only 3 more years... ... *sobs**Crysis**sobs*

 

[COLDshiver]

I feel your pain Wagan8r me too My X1300 is just too slow for some of the games i play

 

[andresmal]

Well writen article! But!

Be serious, these graphic cards belong in a musuem, I do understand that some people are restricted to a budget, but come on. Instead of spendig money on a obsulute pice of technology just dont make sence. Technology is advancing faster by the day, unfortunatly we have to keep up. Red Dog.

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

You obviously do not understand that not everyone can spend XXXXXXX amount of money on a new system just to upgrade the graphics card. Now that would be stupid. So you don't understand that people are restricted to a budget. You seem to think spending more money on a new system is the answer but you don't seem to know where the money comes from. And just because technology is advancing doesn't mean we should keep up. Most people here have "old" AMD processors. Why keep up when "old" tech performs well enough for you? I have 2 X1900s and they're already "old". But I don't go out and buy two 8800GTXs, even though I can.

 

[Vantage]

I will update this post with the other 3dmark versions as I download and test them:

CARD: DIAMOND X1550 256PSB PCI
RAM: 1GB
PSU: 500W
PROCESSOR: INTEL CELERON D 2.53GHZ
SCREEN RESOLUTION: 1024x768

3DMARK '01 SCORE : 5730 (default benchmark w/double frame buffer)

3DMARK '03 SCORE : 2554

3DMARK '05 SCORE : 1257

I think that something is wrong with your machine...

My spec´s
AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.6GHZ L2 128kb Socket 754 Revision E6
DDR 256 PC3200 Kingston CL=3
Hard Drives IDE UDMA 5 Western Digital 40GB and Samsung 80 both´s 7200rpm.
Motherboard Asus K8V-VM Ultra Chipset Via K8M890CE
Audio Realtek chipset ALCxxx
Power Supply Logysis 480watts (total power 330watts)
Drives Optical= LG GSA-4163B Firmware A106 and LG GDR-8162B yeah i cant copy games for Gamecube....
Video card (it will update for one PCIexpress) PNY Verto Geforce FX5500 128DDR --- Clocks= 270mhz core, Memory 64bits 400mhz, Bus PCI card.
Drivers Omega 66.93

Default benchmark:
3DMARK 2001 SE
Score in 1024x768 32bit´s = 5435 3Dmarks (single buffer, all in stock, default in 3dmark)
Score in 640x480 32bit´s = 7635 3Dmark´s

Not is possible your score, maybe is bad config....
It will update soon with the image that verifies the score and spec´s.

Bye!!

Update link
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Kerzeleid/PCIGraphicscard.jpg

Bye!!

 

[frus]

yep
i think the same because my 3dmark score with my integrated intel grphics (i have a p4 prescott 2,93 ghz , 2gb ram , a sata HD 7200 rpm
is about the same 5500 +/- , you x1550 should perform better.

 

[Wagan8r]

Be serious, these graphic cards belong in a musuem, I do understand that some people are restricted to a budget, but come on. Instead of spendig money on a obsulute pice of technology just dont make sence. Technology is advancing faster by the day, unfortunatly we have to keep up. Red Dog.

First of all, learn how to speak flippin' English!

"Instead of spendig money on a obsulute pice of technology just dont make sence."

What the crap! That's not even a sentence, with an ungodly amount of grammer errors, and you misspelled 5 words!! You obviously don't realize that buying an "obsulute" "pice" of technology is the only option for some people. That's why this thread was started in the first place!!! Even if one of us buys a "non-obsolete" video card, where is it going to go may I ask? Oh look! We all have PCI slots! That means we need a new motherboard, a new CPU, new RAM, and probably a new case and power supply. Before you know it, we're well beyond our budget. Oh, and don't forget the operating system as most of us bought stock computers without a Windows CD. No andresmal, YOU BE SERIOUS!!! You noob.

 

[Jottle]

yep
i think the same because my 3dmark score with my integrated intel grphics (i have a p4 prescott 2,93 ghz , 2gb ram , a sata HD 7200 rpm
is about the same 5500 +/- , you x1550 should perform better.

I'll try it again soon. The 03 and 05 scores seem to be correct, so it must have been a setting in 3dmark '01 that was off. But what does it really matter? That's an extremely old benchmark. BTW, what is single buffer?

 

[Jottle]

I think that something is wrong with your machine...

My spec´s
AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.6GHZ L2 128kb Socket 754 Revision E6
DDR 256 PC3200 Kingston CL=3
Hard Drives IDE UDMA 5 Western Digital 40GB and Samsung 80 both´s 7200rpm.
Motherboard Asus K8V-VM Ultra Chipset Via K8M890CE
Audio Realtek chipset ALCxxx
Power Supply Logysis 480watts (total power 330watts)
Drives Optical= LG GSA-4163B Firmware A106 and LG GDR-8162B yeah i cant copy games for Gamecube....
Video card (it will update for one PCIexpress) PNY Verto Geforce FX5500 128DDR --- Clocks= 270mhz core, Memory 64bits 400mhz, Bus PCI card.
Drivers Omega 66.93

Default benchmark:
3DMARK 2001 SE
Score in 1024x768 32bit´s = 5435 3Dmarks (single buffer, all in stock, default in 3dmark)
Score in 640x480 32bit´s = 7635 3Dmark´s

Not is possible your score, maybe is bad config....
It will update soon with the image that verifies the score and spec´s.

Bye!!

Vantage, could you also post a screenshot of the settings you used in the 3dmark 2001 benchmark? This will ensure that I've set them the same as you. Also, the x1550 card does score higher in 1024x768 resolution than the geforece 5500. How does that make the config wrong?

 

[Vantage]

Sure, in previous post´s i have one mistake (single buffer lol), but I talk about the configuration of your machine.

My previous hardware is one Pentium III 1.0GHZ EB 133 FSB and 384MB SDRAM and my score always it was 4105 in 3Dmark2001SE.

This equipment is waiting for one update in processor with Powerleap or upgradeware, is only hobbie... (sorry for my bad english).

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/Kerzeleid/3Dmark.jpg

Bye.

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[Barnezz]

Yes there IS SLi for the Geforce 5200FX if you have a SLi mobo

Try ---www.lost.eu/42bbb---

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

SLI requires a PCI-E compatible video card, which the FX5200 is not. Besides, why run any FX card in SLI at all? And I don't see how it's related to anything in this thread. You're lucky I'm not giving you bad karma...