Start button confirmed to make a comeback in Windows 8.1, sort of

By Jos · 41 replies
Apr 22, 2013
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  1. We first heard rumors about a possible comeback of the Start menu button in Windows 8.1 last week, but now sources speaking to The Verge have confirmed that this will indeed be the case, only it’s probably not what most...

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  2. Microsoft is just trying to get people used to the interface so they can get some of that sweet, sweet tablet market. People are using smartphones and tablets more than their PCs, so Microsoft just wants to make sure they won't be phased out in 3 to 4 years or so.
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  3. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,730   +3,703

    They are lying to themselves!

    If that is all the start button is going to do, they are wasting their time implementing it. Please don't tell me that is all they could come up with, to fight Windows 8 backlash.
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  4. Come on people! Do you really think this is anything more than a marketing tactic. Microsoft has perfected this strategy. They know people don't upgrade their Microsoft OS that often so they release an experimental/market test OS every other release or so. Do you really think Windows Me,Vista,and now 8 is a coincidence? They overstep what people are comfortable with on years when they know business/consumer equipment refresh is low.

    I bet your thinking right now, "Hmm this windows 8 is too different, but ill surely get Windows 9 if they dial it back a little bit". Meanwhile you have now been exposed to MetroUI, so when they do tone it down in 9, it wont seem so new and "scary" to people. Windows 7 will start being outdated and/or no longer supported so you will almost have to upgrade. Windows 9 will be touted as a great success, and sales will skyrocket. They do this so that on the years businesses and consumers need new computers/OSs you don't start looking elsewhere. But you are still exposed to the future direction of the company.

    Now keep in mind I'm not saying Microsoft is evil/bad. I personally like them. Its just smart business. No different from car companies releasing new models every 3-5 years. If they released new models every year they would be bankrupt in no time. Most people don't buy a new car every year or so.

    Im still amazed that people are mad at Microsoft for Metro. Remember Vista? Windows 8 was not the OS designed for you. Get over it. Windows 9 will be out before you know it.
  5. ThanosPAS

    ThanosPAS TS Booster Posts: 47   +12

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  6. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I think this is a step in the right direction. I feel like they should give the user freedom. Give them the option to put back the classic start menu or use this. People are just mad at MS because of their lack of flexibility. I dont blame them, I just feel their strategy is off.
  7. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Addict Posts: 439   +86

    So what am I going to do with stardock. ?
  8. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Start8 will still be the best solution. Start8.1 incoming.
  9. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 990   +233

    All I want is a solution to avoid hot corners while using mouse/keyboard. I like the start screen and other Win8 additions, but I really can't stand the hot corners. I made my own app that adds a start screen button and settings icon (in the notification area), but something official would be nice.
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  10. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Good to see people who are frustrated to the point where they make their own app. If only MS sees that haha.
  11. I was considering upgrading to Windows 8 if they put back the Start orb and the traditional Start Menu. This little stunt just makes me realize that I have made the right decision. Piss on you Microsoft. Looks like I'll be using Windows 7 for a bit longer, past Windows 8.1. I can wait as long as I have too. No hurry Microsoft. Keep futzing around while your ship continues to sink.
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  12. You don't have to hover your mouse in the corner and wait for the Start screen tile to appear before clicking. You can just go to the corner and click immediately, and it works the same. Waiting for the physical indication will just make the process unnecessarily longer.
  13. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 990   +233

    In my opinion the biggest issue is in any multi monitor setup. I know MS tried to make the hot corners work better, but they're just way too inconsistent and difficult to nab on side-by-side edges.
  14. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,876   +1,297

    Sorry, you're wrong on all counts. First of all, this is NOT smart business because 2013 would have been a bumper year for upgrades from XP if Windows 8 had been worth buying. That's what the enterprise was hoping for, as many within corporate IT have attested. Me and Vista are bogus comparisons - neither were the radical departure that Windows 8 is, and they weren't despised nearly as much, either (although Millennium came pretty close). Windows 7 gets the job done just fine and Microsoft ceases to support it at their own peril. What Microsoft will have to do if it doesn't want to be rendered obsolete is provide a "legacy" Windows 7 shell for the Windows 8 kernel. Another "XP mode" isn't going to cut it either for consumers or the enterprise. Meanwhile, "live tiles" and the rest of that rubbish will be relegated to phones and other electronic toys where it belongs.
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  15. coppersloane

    coppersloane TS Enthusiast Posts: 108   +33

    Finally an intelligent reply.
  16. coppersloane

    coppersloane TS Enthusiast Posts: 108   +33

    Pretty hilarious. And people who still can't get used to swipe down-swipe up are pretty hilarious too. If you're struggling with Windows 8, you've got more considerable problems than an unfamiliar operating system to figure out. You've got an undeveloped intelligence quotient.
  17. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,730   +3,703

    I'm glad you think so.
  18. hahahanoobs

    hahahanoobs TS Evangelist Posts: 2,045   +680

    I agree. W8 already has two UI's, and now their will be two start menu's. Yay.
  19. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Guru Posts: 684   +254

    I can become acclimated to pretty much anything. But here's the deal with Windows 8. It makes me wanna puke. And my Windows 7 installation is still kicking *** and taking names. So why in the hell would want to "get used to" something if I don't have to?

    I love it when people try defending Windows 8. The perfect bullet point for purchasing an upgrade to Windows 8.

    "Think the interface sucks a rosy red titty? Hahaha, don't'll get USED to it". Translation for those who can't see through the bullshit. "#DEALWITHIT".

    I am dealing with it just fine. Dealing with it by dealing without it!
  20. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,669   +1,952

    If this is really the kind of Start button MS brings with the update, they are the most stubborn business ever that will go against the entire market trying to prove their pathetic needly points while sitting on which with their a$$ bare.

    It takes ballz to admit the mistake and correct it, that of which MS clearly has none.
  21. I like Windows 8 just fine without a start menu or button.
  22. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,730   +3,703

    I probably could to, if it wasn't for insertinsulthere that took its place. Why is it so hard for you to understand we can live with both StartMenu and StartScreen, if only we had a insertprofanityhere choice?
  23. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,669   +1,952

    For the first placeholder - nothing really, it was there and now it ain't, so what do you call that - a black hole?

    For the second one, the f. word is just fine, but MS is one of those matrix villains who used to say that choice is an illusion, 'cause that's what they are selling anyway.
  24. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,730   +3,703

    So you are telling me the Start Screen that took the place of the Start Menu is not really there. I'm not that naive!!
  25. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,669   +1,952

    We were talking about the button that vanished, right? Replaced with corner clicking, which I would call a catch-me-if-you-can approach to user interface. It is there somewhere, buried beneath all the prejudice against the classy-cool buttonix.

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