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[Loadedaxe]

They had gotten away with it because US treasury bonds (a form of loan to the American government) were seen as a safe investment. That's no longer the case and no-one wants to buy them anymore. Another way America created demand for dollars was the petrodollar but Trump's Iran war is now making countries look at alternatives. Without the demand for US Treasuries or petrodollars then America has to pay it's debts from it's own pocket but unfortunately it's debt repayments are currently more than it's GDP - that's a bit like earning $100k/year but having mortgage payments of $120K/year. You can see why other countries are alarmed. Countries are also moving their gold deposits out of America because they no longer see America as a safe place.

There are legitimate concerns about U.S. debt, Treasury yields and central banks diversifying reserves, but you're turning those concerns into claims the actual numbers don't support.

“Nobody wants U.S. Treasuries anymore”? Foreign investors bought over $200 billion in long term U.S. securities in June alone.

And America's “debt repayments are more than GDP” is simply mixing up total outstanding debt with annual debt service costs. Federal net interest is roughly 3.3% of GDP in 2026, not 120%.

Central banks buying more gold and diversifying reserves is real. The dollar instantly becoming unwanted, Treasuries having no buyers, and America paying more than its entire GDP in annual debt payments is not.

There are enough genuine fiscal problems to discuss without attaching a jet engine to the numbers.

 

[ActualViking]

I'm saying "An eye for an eye"................The Book of Exodus. "An eye for an eye" (Biblical Hebrew: עַיִן תַּחַת עַיִן, ʿayin taḥaṯ ʿayin)[a] is a commandment found in the Book of Exodus 21:23–27 expressing the principle of reciprocal justice measure for measure.

So why wouldn't the Jewish people want it? Of course, all the "From the river to the sea" useful *****s wouldn't agree.

Do explain, how did the Palestinian children play any role in the attacks on Israel?

You quoting the Bible as if it somehow makes genocide acceptable it not only stupid, it is literally a sin!

In no way is it ever acceptable or just to inflict death and destruction on a people, there is no sane reason for doing so. Surely this can not be hard to understand.

 

[lonetac]

Saying others are far worse doesn't make what the Israeli government has done okay, that isn't a valid excuse, what they've done is still wrong. Being against what the Israeli government has done doesn't make someone anti-Jewish. A person can be pro-people and anti-government.

I blocked that guy a long time ago, he doesnt argue in good faith. There is no point in talking with debate lords who are only here to be right.

We know what facts are and live in reality. Not made up hocus pocus land.

Netanyahu is a international war criminal for a reason. The UN has already labeled it a genocide as has anyone with half a brain. Yes, the historians and leading genocide experts have labeled it a genocide. The only folks who havent are the ones who cry "anti semitism" anytime someone says Israel shouldnt kill over 60k people in cold blood including bombing schools, hospitals and kids in sandals. its such a laughable joke and really shows a lack of critical thinking to always go to anti semitism when someone criticizes Israel. Nobody here is talking about Jews, we are talking about a country. I have many Jewish friends and neighbors who vehemently oppose the genocide they admit their country is performing.

Its just more reason to not engage folks like this, they lack critical thinking skills.

Leading genocide scholars organization says Israel is committing genocide in Gaza

The determination by the International Association of Genocide Scholars could serve to further isolate Israel in global public opinion and adds to a growing chorus of organizations that have used the term for Israel's actions.

www.pbs.org

And yes, Israel did defend raping prisoners to death. You cant wipe off the speeches from the internet. There is well documented cases of the IDF using sexual and gender based violence against Palestinians. Its not something that is debatable. EVERYTHING IS LEGITIMATE in their own words. They also kidnap, torture and maim Palestinians on a regular basis and cry when Palestinians resist.

Israel is an occupying force, deemed illegal by the international community. Its silly to deny these facts. Palestinians have every right to fight for emancipation as would anyone being ruled by Israel's brutal dictatorship.

Whats hilarious is he didnt even read his own fact checking link he shared. it doesnt prove anything I said is inaccurate. Its just a misinterpreted poll, not that something hasnt happened or isnt happening. My god, the cognitive dissonance and lack of basic reading skills. It absolutely does not address the rape allegations. The poll there doesnt even address the rape allegations, lol. its like he just googled something and was like nuh uh.

These guys are all pissed off they cant go around murdering innocent people unchecked so their only defense is hur dur dur anti semite. Complete low IQ take.

 

[lonetac]

All politicians are crooked in their own way.

as is every human.

At different degrees. its way to oversimplified to just say "all politicians are the same" because its objectively false. They are not. They vary greatly on the amount of corruption, lying and bullshit they spew.

Like trying to compare the current administrations corruption to anything we have ever seen. You could add up the corruption from every president in history and it wouldnt total how much the current admin has fleeced america for. Or how much Trump has enriched his family and donors for while skyrocketing americans cost of living in nearly every aspect.

There is a big difference between a party that protects pedophiles and doesnt for example. Saying they are crooked doesnt account for this type of nuance. Either pedophilia is wrong or its not. Regardless of party, they should all be held accountable. I dont play partisan nonsense politics. I love when folks go "but bill clinton..." ok, lock him up if he did something wrong. Gee, its not so hard to not be a sycophant.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I blocked that guy a long time ago, he doesnt argue in good faith. There is no point in talking with debate lords who are only here to be right.

We know what facts are and live in reality. Not made up hocus pocus land.

Netanyahu is a international war criminal for a reason. The UN has already labeled it a genocide as has anyone with half a brain. Yes, the historians and leading genocide experts have labeled it a genocide. The only folks who havent are the ones who cry "anti semitism" anytime someone says Israel shouldnt kill over 60k people in cold blood including bombing schools, hospitals and kids in sandals. its such a laughable joke and really shows a lack of critical thinking to always go to anti semitism when someone criticizes Israel. Nobody here is talking about Jews, we are talking about a country. I have many Jewish friends and neighbors who vehemently oppose the genocide they admit their country is performing.

Its just more reason to not engage folks like this, they lack critical thinking skills.

Leading genocide scholars organization says Israel is committing genocide in Gaza

The determination by the International Association of Genocide Scholars could serve to further isolate Israel in global public opinion and adds to a growing chorus of organizations that have used the term for Israel's actions.

www.pbs.org

And yes, Israel did defend raping prisoners to death. You cant wipe off the speeches from the internet. There is well documented cases of the IDF using sexual and gender based violence against Palestinians. Its not something that is debatable. EVERYTHING IS LEGITIMATE in their own words. They also kidnap, torture and maim Palestinians on a regular basis and cry when Palestinians resist.

Israel is an occupying force, deemed illegal by the international community. Its silly to deny these facts. Palestinians have every right to fight for emancipation as would anyone being ruled by Israel's brutal dictatorship.

Whats hilarious is he didnt even read his own fact checking link he shared. it doesnt prove anything I said is inaccurate. Its just a misinterpreted poll, not that something hasnt happened or isnt happening. My god, the cognitive dissonance and lack of basic reading skills. It absolutely does not address the rape allegations. The poll there doesnt even address the rape allegations, lol. its like he just googled something and was like nuh uh.

These guys are all pissed off they cant go around murdering innocent people unchecked so their only defense is hur dur dur anti semite. Complete low IQ take.

You blocked me… yet somehow checked my link… and it still showed you were LYING as the IDF does NOT sanction rape…

 

[mbk34]

You blocked me… yet somehow checked my link

Unfortunately your posts still show up when other people quote you.

 

[JimF1]

as is every human.

At different degrees. its way to oversimplified to just say "all politicians are the same" because its objectively false. They are not. They vary greatly on the amount of corruption, lying and bullshit they spew.

Like trying to compare the current administrations corruption to anything we have ever seen. You could add up the corruption from every president in history and it wouldnt total how much the current admin has fleeced america for. Or how much Trump has enriched his family and donors for while skyrocketing americans cost of living in nearly every aspect.

There is a big difference between a party that protects pedophiles and doesnt for example. Saying they are crooked doesnt account for this type of nuance. Either pedophilia is wrong or its not. Regardless of party, they should all be held accountable. I dont play partisan nonsense politics. I love when folks go "but bill clinton..." ok, lock him up if he did something wrong. Gee, its not so hard to not be a sycophant.

Sure they are, they all want that grease behind the scenes.

 

[mbk34]

Sure they are, they all want that grease behind the scenes.

The level of corruption and lying currently going on in the WH is mind boggling. It makes tin pot dictators in 3rd world countries look like amateurs. Guilty businessmen can now just make a donation and they immediately get a presidential pardon. Bribery and insider trading is common place. This weeks £5k payout for voting republican is simply voter fraud. I don't think he's even paid the $2K tariff dividend he promised, or the $2k DOGE dividend. Then there's the political agreements are just torn up immediately after they're signed. Trump just seems incapable of understanding what's true and what's false - yesterday he was talking about being rescued by fireman while clearing rubble at the 9/11 site - he wasn't even there. Next week he'll be talking about how he was rescuing firemen.

 

[RudyBob]

This is excellent news. The entire world needs to move away from American companies, American products, and the American dollar. Once America is no longer "too big to fail" then we'll see how much

America is my home team!!! USA USA

 

[AngelG]

They had gotten away with it because US treasury bonds (a form of loan to the American government) were seen as a safe investment. That's no longer the case and no-one wants to buy them anymore. Another way America created demand for dollars was the petrodollar but Trump's Iran war is now making countries look at alternatives. Without the demand for US Treasuries or petrodollars then America has to pay it's debts from it's own pocket but unfortunately it's debt repayments are currently more than it's GDP - that's a bit like earning $100k/year but having mortgage payments of $120K/year. You can see why other countries are alarmed. Countries are also moving their gold deposits out of America because they no longer see America as a safe place.

What happens if the gov. decides it won't pay the debt, because it has the power ?

 

[mbk34]

What happens if the gov. decides it won't pay the debt, because it has the power ?

If you don't make your loan payments then no-one will give you loans which means you can only spend the money you have. They also won't want to give you loans in the future either. It's not just that things like mortgages and car loans will get much more expensive, businesses wouldn't get loans and foreign goods would suddenly get much more expensive. Countries usually prefer to just print money and put up with extremely high inflation that that brings. If the dollar can't be trusted then international business would move to a different more stable currency.

A few countries have defaulted on their debts in the past. Argentina is the obvious example and the effect on their economy was terrible. They still haven't recovered 25 years later.

PS I'm not a financial guy but the above is just my understanding

 

[JSabin]

This is excellent news. The entire world needs to move away from American companies, American products, and the American dollar. Once America is no longer "too big to fail" then we'll see how much their brain dead politicians are willing to run their mouths and antagonize the rest of the world with their ridiculous nonsense like extortion tariffs and threats of economic sanctions.

Also, I can't wait to see what happens to America when their current 40 TRILLION dollar debt explodes to 100+ TRILLION in the next decade and they're unable to pay the interest rate on it, considering they're already paying over a TRILLION dollars a year in interest already. The solution to just keep printing more money and increasing inflation isn't something they can keep doing forever.

This is excellent news. The entire world needs to move away from American companies, American products, and the American dollar. Once America is no longer "too big to fail" then we'll see how much their brain dead politicians are willing to run their mouths and antagonize the rest of the world with their ridiculous nonsense like extortion tariffs and threats of economic sanctions.

Also, I can't wait to see what happens to America when their current 40 TRILLION dollar debt explodes to 100+ TRILLION in the next decade and they're unable to pay the interest rate on it, considering they're already paying over a TRILLION dollars a year in interest already. The solution to just keep printing more money and increasing inflation isn't something they can keep doing forever.

That's quite an extrapolation. Guess it means you're against innovation. Why else did the world flock to Microsoft products?

Instead, you support imitators. But, if the innovators went away, what would the imitators have to imitate?

 

[mbk34]

Guess it means you're against innovation. Why else did the world flock to Microsoft products?

I don't think the rest of the world is against innovation or particularly against Microsoft products. It's just the information held in documents and emails etc isn't seen as private anymore. When America was an ally we could accept this but unfortunately that's no longer the case.

 

[Anna Macintosh]

The line that stands out to me is "large scale video conferencing was still affected by some technical limitations." That's the real cost of these migrations that rarely gets discussed upfront, it's not that the open source alternative is bad, it's that closing the last 10% of feature parity with something as deeply integrated as Teams takes years, not a pilot program. Respect for doing it anyway on principle, but I'd want to see the year three numbers before calling this a clean win.