Junk doesn't even come close to describing how bad the rubbish we call EV's are. I don't know a single car seller who drives one themselves, while selling them.
Tesla is the most unreliable used car brand in America, even behind Jeep and Chrysler
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whateversa
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Tesla's quality is unlikely to get better while Elon Musk has power there. They would have done much better if Elon did not get involved (I'd bring back the original founders). I just hope I don't end up getting killed by one of his rush job cars.
whateversa
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Even if Tesla's cars were not EV's, they would still suck because its a rush job product. Some say it looks like it was assembled by children. Some say the repair waiting time and cost is unrealistic compared to other cars. What you get is simply a bad deal.
Dear Techspot,
I pay for a Techspot Elite subscription so that you can do journalism not spew out the propaganda from Consumer Reports. This is completely ridiculous and if you continue this I will cancel my subscription to TechSpot.
Please do thorough research on the criteria used by consumer reports!
- Equal Weighting of Minor vs. Major Issues
- Selective recall factors, like ford engine recalls not factored In
- Bias Toward CR's Demographic - IT was a survey not empirical data analysis!
- Overemphasis on New/Redesigned Models' Early Issues not longer term reliability
- Discrepancies with Other Studies - IE J.D. Power's 2025 Vehicle Dependability Study
I pay for unbias technology journalism, if you want my money in future please acknowledge this or I cancel. I am putting my annual renewal on hold until you do.
Thank you,
I pay for a Techspot Elite subscription so that you can do journalism not spew out the propaganda from Consumer Reports. This is completely ridiculous and if you continue this I will cancel my subscription to TechSpot.
Please do thorough research on the criteria used by consumer reports!
- Equal Weighting of Minor vs. Major Issues
- Selective recall factors, like ford engine recalls not factored In
- Bias Toward CR's Demographic - IT was a survey not empirical data analysis!
- Overemphasis on New/Redesigned Models' Early Issues not longer term reliability
- Discrepancies with Other Studies - IE J.D. Power's 2025 Vehicle Dependability Study
I pay for unbias technology journalism, if you want my money in future please acknowledge this or I cancel. I am putting my annual renewal on hold until you do.
Thank you,
EV's are just plastic toys. Have you seen the box shaped and sized toys that hip people drive? Not only ugly but obviously low quality.
Dear Nictron,
Research has proven that new EV's are equal in safety to old ICE and that doesn't include EV's deciding to barbecue their passengers for the lulz.
Thank you. (full stop, not comma)
Repair cost is partly due to gigaframe assembly. One small hit causes a big and costly replacement part.
monkeylove
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I think that's expected for new companies.
Hell no. I need the acceleration of EVs. Never going back to noisy, expensive and slow gas, with 1000s of parts that can break and need heavy maintenance.
Every single day I press the pedal, I smile. Leaving all others in the mirror. While paying close to nothing to charge it at home. I especially laugh, when some dude in his Turbo crap thinks he can take me. He is left in the dust.
Mostly poor people from countries with terrible infrastructure, hates EVs. Rich countries love them and barely look at ICE cars anymore. They don't sell.
Meanwhile in Russia, they stand in line to get gasoline for their cars...
What a joke. I charge for free at work, and for close to free at home. Never being milked at a gas station anymore is great.
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They're simply reporting on Consumer Reports, so take your whining to them.
Btw ADAC, Germany's auto club also ranks them last, based on mandatory recurring technical inspections that Americans don't even have.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...liability-among-all-20222023-cars-261596.html
Must be coincidental propaganda too.
Damn, the propaganda is strong with this one, too.
Thank adding this and giving us a fuller picture! Techspot should've done it, but thank you for picking up the slack!Tesla is also the newest car company in the list lol. It's not surprising that a car made by a new brand in the first 10 years would have bad reliability (2016-2021 models). This is old news. Here is the new car reliability list also from CR where Tesla is in the top 10. Notice how Rivian was added to the list and is placed dead last:
Furthermore, if you want to look at what's typically more relevant to people, maintenance + repair costs (TCO) would include any reliability issues and Tesla is basically at the top there (the main cost drivers are probably tires and repairs):
It's weird, I watch a lot of reviews of Tesla. It doesn't matter whether the car is just a year or 2 old, or whether it has a couple of 100K miles on the clock, every user seems to rave about their cars. They praise the performance, the economy and the reliability. Most folk, even with a 100K on the clock, just state the only thing they pay for is electricity, tyres and the occasional set of new wiper blades. I guess this stands to reason as there's way fewer moving parts in an EV.
Some folk talk about the dangers of being BBQ'ed in an EV but the statistics say you're far more likely to have a fire in a petrol car. There was actually a big fire a year back at a car park in Luton airport and lots of vehicles were destroyed. People immediately started talking about the inherent dangers of EV's then. They went quiet when it turned out to be a diesel vehicle that started the fire.
The used price for EVs depends a lot on the range and manufacturer. This is simply because new technology and larger batteries have been developed plus there's a lot more competition now. It's not because the original cars have suddenly become faulty. Most Tesla owners, after 100k miles, state their cars offer the same performance as they did when new and about 90% of the range.
Most of the world is happy to buy electric because they're far more economical to run, they have way better performance and they're way more reliable. The rest of the world also has a decent electrical infrastructure to support them. The US has an oil lobby that pushes fossil vehicles in the same way the NRA pushes guns. The rest of the world looks on in amazement. The only thing that keeps me from buying a (used) Tesla is Elon. That and the fact I'm avoiding buying anything American at the moment if I can.
Some folk talk about the dangers of being BBQ'ed in an EV but the statistics say you're far more likely to have a fire in a petrol car. There was actually a big fire a year back at a car park in Luton airport and lots of vehicles were destroyed. People immediately started talking about the inherent dangers of EV's then. They went quiet when it turned out to be a diesel vehicle that started the fire.
The used price for EVs depends a lot on the range and manufacturer. This is simply because new technology and larger batteries have been developed plus there's a lot more competition now. It's not because the original cars have suddenly become faulty. Most Tesla owners, after 100k miles, state their cars offer the same performance as they did when new and about 90% of the range.
Most of the world is happy to buy electric because they're far more economical to run, they have way better performance and they're way more reliable. The rest of the world also has a decent electrical infrastructure to support them. The US has an oil lobby that pushes fossil vehicles in the same way the NRA pushes guns. The rest of the world looks on in amazement. The only thing that keeps me from buying a (used) Tesla is Elon. That and the fact I'm avoiding buying anything American at the moment if I can.
Most of the issues have no noticeable impact on owners, due to how minor they are and how quickly and invisibly they are fixed. If you were to ask an owner how many problems they've had with their car, the answer would be a much lower number than if you simply "counted recalls". Which one matters?
In the car industry, that is very new, especially considering Tesla did not really start mass producing cars until the ramp up of the Model 3... 7 years ago.
Tesla is also the newest car company in the list lol. It's not surprising that a car made by a new brand in the first 10 years would have bad reliability (2016-2021 models). This is old news. Here is the new car reliability list also from CR where Tesla is in the top 10. Notice how Rivian was added to the list and is placed dead last:
Furthermore, if you want to look at what's typically more relevant to people, maintenance + repair costs (TCO) would include any reliability issues and Tesla is basically at the top there (the main cost drivers are probably tires and repairs):
With many foreign manufacturers building plants in the US, Tariffs won't save American car brands. The only thing, IMO, that will save American car brands is for American car brands to start giving a crap about producing quality products. The Japanese learned this lesson long ago and, let me see, where are they ranked in quality?
I know one.
Bullcrap. Toyota is typically proactive about recalls. Other companies, in the US at least, need NHSTA to handcuff them in order to issue a recall.
For instance, when the back doors of 24' Prii were coming open in traffic, Toyota, proactively, stopped selling them altogether until they had a fix for the problem and they proactively issued recalls for all affected vehicles almost as soon as they learned about the issue.
And who gives a crap about the GR GT? Its a niche car for a niche market.
netman
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Tesla is getting Trashed...!
No insult was meant to the great Nikola Tesla... who has no closest relative today...!
The reason Musk chose Tesla for his EV... so he couldn't be sued...!
No insult was meant to the great Nikola Tesla... who has no closest relative today...!
The reason Musk chose Tesla for his EV... so he couldn't be sued...!
When your publication is run by a bunch of raging progressives who are desperate to show the editors at NYT or The Atlantic how deserving they are of a job... oof.
No different than gaming or tech rags. All of bunch of indoctrinated Columbia and NYU grads.
You mean the company he bought?
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