Tesla unlocks full battery capacity so Florida residents can escape Hurricane Irma

[viperfl]

Sorry, that's what I get for trying to post in a middle of a tropical storm and the power is out.

My apologies

 

[Sum Guy]

This is one example why auto makers are lobbying to make it illegal to work on your own car.

 

[davislane1]

Couple of thoughts...

Have you considered that those who bought the 60 kWh pack (which was a limited 75 kWh pack) got a discount on that pack? Let's say the 75 kWh pack costs $40k for Model S owners who get the full capacity. The Model S buyers who opted for 60 kWh only pay $35k. This up-front discount can be recovered when they pony up the additional money later.

No, because it isn't a discount. Just like not paying for DLC on a video game isn't a discount.

As for the criticisms of Elon making money, your angst is better pointed at capitalism. Capitalism sets no moral or ethical standards, it is purely about making money. If that's the case, you're anti-capitalist, which would put you in the camp of socialist or communist. That's funny because most of those berating Elon for making money also claim to hate socialism.

"But he's doing it dishonestly!" ... Read above. Capitalism isn't about honesty, it's about money. If you worship capitalism, don't complain about the dirty laundry that comes with it.

You are way too short for this ride.

 

[captaincranky]

Couple of thoughts...

Have you considered that those who bought the 60 kWh pack (which was a limited 75 kWh pack) got a discount on that pack? Let's say the 75 kWh pack costs $40k for Model S owners who get the full capacity. The Model S buyers who opted for 60 kWh only pay $35k. This up-front discount can be recovered when they pony up the additional money later.

A couple of thoughts back at-cha.....

You sound like your own wife back from a shopping trip at the mall, trying to justify her extravagant purchases; "but Sweety, the Tesla batteries were on sale, how could I not buy them"?

As for the criticisms of Elon making money, your angst is better pointed at capitalism. Capitalism sets no moral or ethical standards, it is purely about making money. If that's the case, you're anti-capitalist, which would put you in the camp of socialist or communist. That's funny because most of those berating Elon for making money also claim to hate socialism.

As much as I enjoy berating Musk, I always enjoy berating a poster who fancies himself to be on a 'first name basis" with Musk, more. It creeps me out worse than a ten dollar hooker......Like "yuck, now I need a shower, just for walking by on the other side of the street from her", that creeped out.

Oddly, in direct opposition to your imaginings, "capitalism' isn't a form of government, it's become sort of a slur for making money off the backs of others, while the "robber baron", languishes drinking champagne by the pool.

here's some bullet points to wrap your head around: "Democracy" is a form of government. There is a difference between "capitalism" and "consumer fraud", and most democratic governments have a "consumer protection agency", which attempts to protect its "citizens" from, "consumer fraud".

Musk's meteoritic rise to the top of the tech world on an endless fountain of his own bullsh!t and imaginings, seems almost Faustian in nature. Goethe would be so proud of him.

"But he's doing it dishonestly!" ... Read above. Capitalism isn't about honesty, it's about money. If you worship capitalism, don't complain about the dirty laundry that comes with it.

Well, since you deem fit to educate us with the banality of repetition, here's some back at ya, "capitalism isn't a form of government". the US has a "Consumer Protection Agency"{. Some forms of "Capitalism" are illegal, ask Bernie Madoff.

 

[captaincranky]

Sorry, that's what I get for trying to post in a middle of a tropical storm and the power is out.
My apologies

I'll never doubt your dedication or sincerity again. (Unless of course, I find out that you fibbed).

 

[Mugsy]

Quite simply, it you are sold a 75kWh battery, you should be able to USE its full capacity.

Personally, I think Tesla shouldn't be selling the batteries with the cars at all. They developed "battery swapping" technology, they should partner with someone like Exxon or Philips and install "battery swap stations" at every gas station where your old drained battery is removed and you can get a fresh fully charged battery in 2 minutes.

Tesla needs to retain ownership of their batteries. Excluding the cost of the batteries would DRAMATICALLY drive down new EV prices and help EV resale values immensely because you're no longer worried about buying a car with "old" batteries nearing the end of their life (that'll cost thousands to replace.) Range anxiety declines are you worry less about the capacity of your "old" battery or availability of where to "recharge". Apartment dwellers w/o garages would finally be able to buy EVs w/o worrying about where to plug them in. No more need to build "Supercharger" stations across the country, and no waiting 30 minutes to recharge (assuming there isn't a line. Just imagine how long the lines in Florida would have been if every car took 30 minutes to "fill up"???)

This stupidity of "locking" the capacity of batteries is just the latest glaring problem with "permanent" batteries that consumers must purchase along with the vehicle.

 

[Johnnyblaze1957]

In a move to cut costs, select Tesla vehicles with 75 kWh battery packs were sold with said packs software-locked at a capacity of 60 kWh. The idea is that, later down the road, owners could pay to have the additional capacity unlocked via firmware update.

On-disc DLC for your $80,000 electric car. My sides are in orbit right now.

this is hardly any different than desktop processor pricing (especially for things like ryzen with very high yields) - lots of budget processors have the extra cores intentionally sabotaged. The point is that alot of the cost is R&D and by pricing to a wider audience you make more sales to cover it.

Ah yeah it is this is a car not a desktop processer should be unlocked when you buy it.